WalterFootball.com T-Shirts

[Walter]

BroncosCon just sent me a PM about revisiting the t-shirt idea. I want to do this.

I found a site that makes t-shirts:

http://www.customink.com/

Now, the questions are:

What kind of shirts do I make

What goes on the shirt?

What kind of slogan do I put on the back? (BroncosCon recommended: WalterFootball.com: Where your mock draft gets debacled.)

I'd like to have the word "debacled" somewhere in there.

[PuppyPuncher]

[Walter]

LOL nice

[Leo Fender]

The big question is: What will it cost to ship a shirt to Sweden?

[mycarman]

maybe have a "design a tee" contest? That would attract art *********'s to the forums. But I don't know how to beat Puppy's...

[mycarman]

The big question is: What will it cost to ship a shirt to Sweden?

no worries... everyone with 1374+ forum posts gets one free right?

[chicagojay]

can we make it 1100 + free?

[Matt McGuire]

WalterFootball.com: Draftniks Live Here

By the way, you can't have a slogan that is too many words...it has to be short and sweet.

[Matt McGuire]

[Vbsiena]

WalterFootball.com

Where Matt McGuire
Debacles your
Mock Draft

[chicagojay]

WalterFootball.com

Where Matt McGuire
Debacles your
Mock Draft

my vote so far

[scar988]

Walt, I have a much better (cheaper) T-shirt site. I also have the graphics arts abilities. hit me up in a PM and we will discuss this.

[Sitisfit]

where debacling happens

[Matt McGuire]

I don't think anybody would understand "Where debacling happens" or "I got debacled"

The key to good advertising is simplicity and everybody understands "Draftniks Live Here"

This site is about football and the draft and I don't see where "debacle" fits any of that.

[EL Guapo]

I’m trying to think of things that get debacled. Office work, school work, the rest of the internet, emmitt, your opinion, and more.

[Matt McGuire]

I think this t-shirt idea is debacling with the word debacled in it...I don't like it.

[Matt McGuire]

Idk, do you like the shirt?

[scar988]

that font is arial. shirt is too basic. I'm going to post up a few ideas in a minute of shirt ideas

[Drumsteroo]

where debacling happens

I like this. Should be some sort of 'inside' joke that forum folks will get, such as the debacling, the hall of ownage, some sort of tjack sucks reference, etc....

[Matt McGuire]

The font isn't arial btw

[Matt McGuire]

I like this. Should be some sort of 'inside' joke that forum folks will get, such as the debacling, the hall of ownage, some sort of tjack sucks reference, etc....

Inside jokes aren't funny to people that have no idea what you are talking about = DUMB IDEA

When people read a shirt, it needs to be short and sweet, but they also need to understand wtf you are talking about.

[Walter]

With the shirt, I thought we'd have the WF.com logo on the front, and a slogan/message in the back.

I'd like to incorporate our NFL Draft and Fantasy coverage, and use the word "debacled" if that's possible.

[BroncosCon]

I like debacled a lot. I like the inside joke. Matt, this is mass marketing. This is more about US and also maybe get some more folks to look up the site.

[Matt McGuire]

Draftniks Live Here FTW

[Matt McGuire]

I like debacled a lot. I like the inside joke. Matt, this is mass marketing. This is more about US and also maybe get some more folks to look up the site.

Yeah but when they read the shirt they will think it is stupid because they won't get the inside joke.

Honestly...when was the last time you saw a mass advertisement that had an inside joke?

[BroncosCon]

I like:

WalterFootball.com

Where Everyone Argues with Matt McGuire over EVERYTHING

[azchargersfan21]

Just an idea but a lot of shirts have a word with a funny definition on the back so it could be 'debacled' but I'm not sure how it would fit in

[Vbsiena]

I knew what debacled meant way before Emmitt.

There used to be a line in an old WWF wrestling game. I think it was the arcade game, and the announcer would say. "He just got DEBACLED!"

[PuppyPuncher]

I understand where Matt is coming from.

You want people to where the shirt and I'm not sure if I'd where a generic shirt that talks about "debacling".

[Vbsiena]

Walt,

the answer is so obvious. Have a small contest were people come up with shirt ideas. Put it on the home page with a link to the forums. You limit it down to the top 5 ideas and everyone votes. The winner gets a free shirt. Easy peezy.

[Walter]

That's a good idea VB

[Walter]

Just to let you know, the Emmitt book I'm writing will be called Debacled, so it's going to be more than an inside joke

[chicagojay]

i agree with Siena do that Walt

also i didnt know you were writing a book?

[Matt McGuire]

Just to let you know, the Emmitt book I'm writing will be called Debacled, so it's going to be more than an inside joke

I knew this was why but I didn't want to kill it....ugh I like "Draftniks Live Here" so much more

[Dusty]

I came up with a design... Backside also...

https://www.uberprints.com/account/tools/viewdesign.asp?design=Walterfootball%2Ecom

[scar988]

a couple of ideas using the old GLB team logo and font:
Idea 1 - Debacling


Idea 2 - Draftniks


Idea 3 - Top 10 ways

op 10 ways you know you are a member:
10) You don't even try to talk to people in real life about the draft because it will do nothing but frustrate you
9) You think you're well aware of exactly how the draft is going to go down until it actually does
8) You cried when you heard Emmitt got fired by ESPN
7) You spend way more time on this site during work instead of actually doing work
6) You've explained your pick for rookie of the year and graded your teams draft at least seven times already
5) You have been in/and lost an arguement to Matt
4) You have seen the Hall of Ownage
3) You cannot remember the last time a thread did not turn into a debate
2) You have read Emmitt on the Brink
1) You understand the word “Debacled”

[Rob112BoSox]

http://www.customink.com/designs/walterfb/13012096-2758468/share/?cm_mmc=share-_-emailb-_-button-_-end

[EL Guapo]

Very nice scar.

Maybe, Where Draftniks Live. Where point spreads are debacled.

I'm sure the gambling in very marketable. Hard to get everything in wth a slogan.

[bradenbrees96]

i like "top 10ways

[Matt McGuire]

Top 10 ways, though I like it, isn't marketable to sell to a mass audience

[scar988]

see Matt, it might just be. It might cause the interest from the real football fans who see it to come here.

[Matt McGuire]

Or, they can't relate to it and won't buy the shirt

And by the way, if only 50 people buy the shirt...that's not a good thing. If you want to sell shirts, the majority needs to look at it, get it, and think it is cool enough to spend $20 and buy it.

[scar988]

20 bucks? what? dude, DBH doesn't even sell shirts for that much. no one is going to pay 20 bucks for a shirt. I think 15 is enough.

[bradenbrees96]

It was my first post!!!!! jeez

[mycarman]

Top 10 ways, though I like it, isn't marketable to sell to a mass audience

1st rule of 21st century marketing is that there is no longer is such a thing as mass marketing... Well, maybe not the first rule, but it's up there. We don't have to have a bland shirt because we are NOT marketing to everyone.

The shirts will not be for fashion, and the words "walter" and "football" will pretty much throw off anyone who doesn't like sports. Since it is marketing for more potential draftniks/football peeps/etc. I don't see why it doesn't have a cool logo, maybe some brief info, and a cool but kinda-funny quote like "Debacaling the draft since 1999"

Another thing... is the shirt more supposed to market hits on the front page/site, or to get more forum members(because they are different markets)

[bulldog0123]

Just to let you know, the Emmitt book I'm writing will be called Debacled, so it's going to be more than an inside joke


You know you have to get permission from emmitt because it is debacling his name








I love it scar



"Idea 3 - Top 10 ways

Top 10 ways you know you are a member:
10) You don't even try to talk to people in real life about the draft because it will do nothing but frustrate you
9) You think you're well aware of exactly how the draft is going to go down until it actually does
8) You cried when you heard Emmitt got fired by ESPN
7) You spend way more time on this site during work instead of actually doing work
6) You've explained your pick for rookie of the year and graded your teams draft at least seven times already
5) You have been in/and lost an arguement to Matt
4) You have seen the Hall of Ownage
3) You cannot remember the last time a thread did not turn into a debate
2) You have read Emmitt on the Brink
1) You understand the word “Debacled” "

[scar988]

I think it's a good idea to have multiple options. mainly because forum members would enjoy it. I've also talked to Walt about the actual site too. but it was a while ago so I doubt he remembers

[phenomenal_waffles]

But draftniks don't live here.

[Walter]

You know you have to get permission from emmitt because it is debacling his name



Not if it's satire. Learned that in law class :)

[Walter]

NFL Mock Drafts (or The Best NFL Draft Coverage)

Fantasy Football

Debacled


Something like that... though I like the top 10 ideas too. Thoughts?

[Leo Fender]

Walterfootball knows the draft - Do you?

[Matt McGuire]

NFL Mock Drafts (or The Best NFL Draft Coverage)

Fantasy Football

Debacled


Something like that... though I like the top 10 ideas too. Thoughts?

WalterFootball.com

Draftniks

Live

Here

[PuppyPuncher]

Walterfootball.com

Dolla
Dolla
Billz
Yo

[bleedGreen]

Walterfootball.com

Where
Political
And
Religious
Debates
Have
A
Home
On
A
Site
About
Football

[Walter]

WalterFootball.com

Draftniks

Live

Here

Fantasy people won't know what "Draftniks" means. I never even heard the term before this year.

[PuppyPuncher]

Football
Lives
Here

?

[Eagles4Life]

Walterfootball.com

Most are fans on Sundays. We cover the other six days.

[Dusty]

Walterfootball.com

Where
Political
And
Religious
Debates
Have
A
Home
On
A
Site
About
Football

Lulz.

[Matt McGuire]

Fantasy people won't know what "Draftniks" means. I never even heard the term before this year.

Walter, when does this site gets most of its hits?

June to September (fantasy) or January to April?

Draftniks visit this site and provide for your living...i think that is the target demographic.

[scar988]

Walterfootball.com

Most are fans on Sundays. We cover the other six days.

I like that. I even like the idea of most people are only fans in the fall, we are fans year round.

[Walter]

Walter, when does this site gets most of its hits?

June to September (fantasy) or January to April?

Draftniks visit this site and provide for your living...i think that is the target demographic.

Yeah but we're not just a draft Web site.

Also, there is more traffic in Jan-April, but most advertisers like to put out their ads in August-December, so it actually equals out.

[Walter]

Oh and BTW, fantasy sites like FFToolbox get tons of traffic in August-December.

[Eagles4Life]

I like that. I even like the idea of most people are only fans in the fall, we are fans year round.

Yeah, I think either one would be great.

[Rob112BoSox]

http://www.customink.com/designs/wfb2/13018645-2758468/share/?cm_mmc=share-_-emailb-_-button-_-end

[Matt McGuire]

drafniks and emmitt don't mix...but it looks like walter isn't a draftnik so we won't be doing that

[Rob112BoSox]

drafniks and emmitt don't mix...but it looks like walter isn't a draftnik so we won't be doing that
I know but I just feel like Emmitt should be on there.

[Vbsiena]

Front: Walterfootball.com

Back: We Debacle the Competition



Simple, to the point, debacle makes sense. Appeals to everyone.

[Rob112BoSox]

Front: Walterfootball.com

Back: We Debacle the Competition



Simple, to the point, debacle makes sense. Appeals to everyone.

I like it.

[Matt McGuire]

Front: Walterfootball.com

Back: We Debacle the Competition



Simple, to the point, debacle makes sense. Appeals to everyone.

Does everyone understand the word "debacle"?????????????

[chicagojay]

i think most people do

[Rob112BoSox]

Does everyone understand the word "debacle"?????????????
That's part of what makes it interesting.

[azchargersfan21]

Walterfootball.com

Most are fans on Sundays. We cover the other six days.

Best one so far (or Scar's version). This gets my vote.

[Rob112BoSox]

Best one so far (or Scar's version). This gets my vote.

I agree.

[Eagles4Life]

*hi-5's scar*

[scar988]

thanks guys. will post some other stuff

[BroncosCon]

WalterFootball.com

Best NFL Draft and Fantasy Football Coverage

other sites = debacled

[bulldog0123]

scar's 10 ways is easily the BEST!! Walter, if you want a good shirt pick scar's.

[BroncosCon]

Any word on this, Walter?

[Ckane138]

Front: Walterfootball.com

Back: We Debacle the Competition



Simple, to the point, debacle makes sense. Appeals to everyone.

I like this because it puts debacle in a context that makes sense. Although I think there should be more on the front besides just the name of the site. Something else that explains the site has fantasy and draft info (like BroncosCon suggested). I don't like the top ten idea because it's too much of an inside joke that probably isn't going to draw people to the site (even though I'm flattered to see two of mine in the top ten).

[bills_red]

See sig. I'd buy one of every color if you made them

[BroncosCon]

Nice way to stay classy, bills_red

BTW, backward hat isn't gansta. Bill to the side is.

[InjuredReserve]

I really like this shirt idea best;

Everyones a fan on Sunday
We cover the other six days

I throw my support behind it. Although I did also like the 10 reasons supported by Scar it wouldnt be as marketing friendly as the beforementioned option.

[Walter]

You guys are the reason the site has grown over the years, and I'm torn on the suggestions, so I'd like to put it to a vote. Of course there could be different shirts in the future.

Keep the suggestions coming so I can narrow it down and then we can vote on it.

[BroncosCon]

WalterFootball.com

We have a republicansexkitten on our forum boards

What do you have?

[InjuredReserve]

Maybe its just me but hearing republicans associated with sex is a huge turnoff to me.

Its like oh thats fantastic a woman who will only let me screw her in the missionary position. No baby this wont get old. Shoot me.

[BroncosCon]

Maybe its just me but hearing republicans associated with sex is a huge turnoff to me.

Its like oh thats fantastic a woman who will only let me screw her in the missionary position. No baby this wont get old. Shoot me.

Well, I understand, but that is a real-live woman which is probably what you are missing given the above statement.

[Vbsiena]

Maybe its just me but hearing republicans associated with sex is a huge turnoff to me.

Its like oh thats fantastic a woman who will only let me screw her in the missionary position. No baby this wont get old. Shoot me.

Ann Coulter?

[BroncosCon]

Ann Coulter?

I would rather become an eunuch. She really turns me off and then some.

[InjuredReserve]

Well, I understand, but that is a real-live woman which is probably what you are missing given the above statement.

I know it is a real person, I saw her on the boards before the NFL Draft. We also have EraserGirl.

I was just taking the oppertunity to voice my displeasure on republican women I have encountered. Pardon me but I dont appreciate dealing with judgemental, prudish and bossy women.

[BroncosCon]

I think that is, in it self, very judgmental. But, I think I know where you're going.

[InjuredReserve]

I think that is, in it self, very judgmental. But, I think I know where you're going.

True that is pretty judgemental. I dont associate with either party so I dont feel bad voicing my displeasure.

[PuppyPuncher]

Home of the Bills_Red vs. Matt McGuire war?

Which side are you on?

[phenomenal_waffles]

Home of the Bills_Red vs. Matt McGuire war?
More like a cat fight.

[Rob112BoSox]

More like a cat fight.

And here we go

[phenomenal_waffles]

I'm serious. Bills is an immature little child, and Matt irreconcilable b*tch.

[Matt McGuire]

I'm serious. Bills is an immature little child, and Matt irreconcilable b*tch.

Huh? Irreconcilable? what did i do?

[Mel Kiper Jr.]

Oh no, PW is going to be ban. He called Matt the B word.

[phenomenal_waffles]

haha Mel's back!

[InjuredReserve]

haha Mel's back!

He needs a headshot of Kiper as his avatar though.

[Vbsiena]

O noes Mel got banned!

[Rob112BoSox]

It says that Mel is banned.

[Rob112BoSox]

Bills got banned too?

[scar988]

Mel and Bills were the same person. Bills got banned by Walt. and I looked at the IP's and banned Mel because it's the same person.

[EL Guapo]

One big happy family.

[BroncosCon]

I did think bills kinda crossed the line.

[Rob112BoSox]

Mel and Bills were the same person. Bills got banned by Walt. and I looked at the IP's and banned Mel because it's the same person.

I had no idea.

[phenomenal_waffles]

He needs a headshot of Kiper as his avatar though.

He did, but when you get banned you lose your avatar.

[Drumsteroo]

Yeah but when they read the shirt they will think it is stupid because they won't get the inside joke.

Honestly...when was the last time you saw a mass advertisement that had an inside joke?

Its not mass advertising, Matt. Its free advertising for the site. There is a logo, and then some saying/funny deal that we will understand. If people see it, they will ask about it, and we can tell them to visit, read a little and they will undersand/maybe join.

I really like scars top 10, makes sense, and we can vote on the top 10.

could also have something like 'your tuesday thru saturday football fix' or 'where everything turns into an argument happens' or 'better than your football site'

[phenomenal_waffles]

No. No no no.

It has to be a quick and simple slogan that everyone can understand. Nothing that references the forums. People won't get that everything turns into an argument here. Most of the viewers don't even look at the forums.

[InjuredReserve]

Waffles is right. The top ten is very funny but it is useless in terms of advertising. Something simple, smart and eye catching.

[Matt McGuire]

Honestly...our forums are pretty small compared to NFLDC...nothing to make t-shirts over or brag about (yet)

[phenomenal_waffles]

I think "Your Tuesday to Saturday Fix" or "We Cover the Other 6 Days" are good ones.

[InjuredReserve]

Honestly...our forums are pretty small compared to NFLDC...nothing to make t-shirts over or brag about (yet)

You do realize that things improve, get bigger and better, by putting plans into motion not being negative and taking a wait and see mentality.

[klunker18]

Just imagine how many arguments Matt could get into when these forums expand. I'm excited.

[phenomenal_waffles]

You do realize that things improve, get bigger and better, by putting plans into motion not being negative and taking a wait and see mentality.

You do realize that Matt put "(yet)" at the end of his post.