The San Francisco 49ers

[mschuhe3]

Official thread.

Discuss all things 49er here.

[mpg1995]

49ers suck

[mschuhe3]

49ers suck

See years: 1981, 1984, 1988, 1989, 1994

Oh? Whats that? The Eagles don't have any of those???

Thats a damn shame.

[mpg1995]

See years: 1981, 1984, 1988, 1989, 1994

Oh? Whats that? The Eagles don't have any of those???

Thats a damn shame.

I couldn't resist, first post in this thread will always be that.

Eagles don't need one

[mschuhe3]

I couldn't resist, first post in this thread will always be that.

Eagles don't need one

Of course an Eagles fan would say that.

But then again only one of those super bowls came during my lifetime... and I wasn't even a year old yet.

[Portnam]

I love the 49ers. Clearly the only respectable team on the West Coast, in any sport.

[Portnam]

Also, I have to admit, pound for pound, the most dominant football team I clearly remember watching (I'm 25) were the '94 49ers. Holy ****.

[mschuhe3]

I love the 49ers. Clearly the only respectable team on the West Coast, in any sport.

Lakers? Dodgers? USC? Chargers (kind of)? Giants (ish)? Sharks? Ducks?

[Arcade]

I also love the Niners, but let's actually talk about something instead of a high school game of "they suck" "no they don't".

They WILL win the division. Discuss.

[NoNonsenseCoach]

Lakers? Dodgers? USC? Chargers (kind of)? Giants (ish)? Sharks? Ducks?

And Oakland

[mschuhe3]

And Oakland

Ah, yes how dare I forget the Raiders, A's and Warriors.

All great sports franchises.

[jrfspike]

Seahawks are better than the 49ers.

[Ckane138]

Throw the Angels in that respectable West Coast team list as well.

I'll try to be a regular contributor to this thread considering there's only one 49er fan that posts regularly here. I hate the 49ers, but right now my CD changer in my car is busted and I hate music on the radio so I only listen to KNBR 680 which is 49ers talk radio more often than not.

One thing they brought up that I agree with is why Patrick Willis doesn't blitz more often? During the Rams game they let him blitz quite a bit and he ended up with 2.5 sacks and pick yet against Atlanta he spent most of the game in coverage. Clearly their pass rush has issues, so why not let the one player on your defense that can competently rush the passer do so as much as possible?

[Mister3nOut]

I'll try to be a regular contributor to this thread considering there's only one 49er fan that posts regularly here.

Who's that?




One thing they brought up that I agree with is why Patrick Willis doesn't blitz more often? During the Rams game they let him blitz quite a bit and he ended up with 2.5 sacks and pick yet against Atlanta he spent most of the game in coverage. Clearly their pass rush has issues, so why not let the one player on your defense that can competently rush the passer do so as much as possible?

Well his greatest asset is his sideline to sideline speed back in the middle of the field. I wouldn't mind seeing him on some more blitzes though.

[mschuhe3]

Who's that?

Probably me, but I've seen you on here a lil bit recently.

[mschuhe3]

Seahawks are better than the 49ers.

lol

[mschuhe3]

Throw the Angels in that respectable West Coast team list as well.

I'll try to be a regular contributor to this thread considering there's only one 49er fan that posts regularly here. I hate the 49ers, but right now my CD changer in my car is busted and I hate music on the radio so I only listen to KNBR 680 which is 49ers talk radio more often than not.

One thing they brought up that I agree with is why Patrick Willis doesn't blitz more often? During the Rams game they let him blitz quite a bit and he ended up with 2.5 sacks and pick yet against Atlanta he spent most of the game in coverage. Clearly their pass rush has issues, so why not let the one player on your defense that can competently rush the passer do so as much as possible?

He definitly should blitz more often. Manny Lawson doesn't do ****.

[chikmagnet565]

I'm a 49ers fan too.

[fikedemon]

The 49er Empire is a small nation on Walterfootball. Too many Bears, Viking and Jets HOMERS

[mschuhe3]

The 49er Empire is a small nation on Walterfootball. Too many Bears, Viking and Jets HOMERS

It'll grow..... eventually.

[Arcade]

I'm also a Niners fan who posts regularly. I literally have no idea how I already have over 230 posts...

[InjuredReserve]

So what are your guys predictions for the game tomorrow?

[wraith36444]

Hou 35 Sf 20

[Arcade]

SF wins.

[InjuredReserve]

I think it should be a good game. Houston could potentially be destroyed by the run game.

[mschuhe3]

So what are your guys predictions for the game tomorrow?

should be a good one.

49ers win though. 69-0

[Ckane138]

Looking forward to the Lobsterbush debut.

[mschuhe3]

Alex Smith= New starting QB.

He looked good too... never thought I'd be saying this...

[Mister3nOut]

Wow, WTF. Alex Smith basically had his best statistical game ever in a half. Crazy but we have a good chance if he even plays half as well from now on.

Lost in the QB change and Crabtree debut is Vernon Davis being a beast. First 3 TD game for a TE since 2006!

[Arcade]

Vernon Davis is a top 3 TE in this league. He's the best blocking TE in the league, and we see that he can also catch...

Am I the only one who thinks Vernon should be returning kicks? Our current returners aren't doing so great, and Vernon IS the fastest player on the team, he can break tackles, and he has a great nose for the endzone, he WANTS that TD.

[Mister3nOut]

Vernon Davis is a top 3 TE in this league. He's the best blocking TE in the league, and we see that he can also catch...

Am I the only one who thinks Vernon should be returning kicks? Our current returners aren't doing so great, and Vernon IS the fastest player on the team, he can break tackles, and he has a great nose for the endzone, he WANTS that TD.

I dunno, I think Walker is better suited for that. Davis is too heavy.

[Arcade]

I dunno, I think Walker is better suited for that. Davis is too heavy.

He played returner in college, but he's pretty obviously gained weight since then. At any rate, the 49ers really need a new returner. Our "defensive" special teams has been great, how many TD's have we gotten from them? But our "offensive" special teams has been lacking. If Javier Arenas falls to the Niners in the second round, it'd be awesome to get him.

[mschuhe3]

No I think TE's should avoid kick returning completely.

Except Davis because hes so damn fast.

[fikedemon]

We got a tough game against Indy. Im hoping we win this game so bad. It would make a huge statement and gets us back in the race for the West. I was really hoping the Giants would take out the Cards to keep them down but oh well on that one.

[Mister Ed]

So... is Singletary really going with Alex Smith as his starter for the rest of the season?

[fikedemon]

I think so. I like Shaun Hill he is a true gamer but his faults really hurt us. He can manage a game but if it gets to where our team is down and we need to stretch the field he just can't. If Alex stays poised and accurate teams won't stack the box as much against Frank Gore which will help our offense.

[Mister Ed]

Yeah, Smith played like a top pick last week. I hope he can keep that up for the 49ers' sake.

[fikedemon]

we can only hope. id rather draft oline and dline help during the offseason instead of a qb. hopefully alex is the answer but I got a feeling he's not

[Arcade]

If the 49ers make the playoffs under Alex, he's a shoe-in for Comeback Player of the Year. Here's hoping.

[Mister3nOut]

If the 49ers make the playoffs under Alex, he's a shoe-in for Comeback Player of the Year. Here's hoping.

Don't you have to come back from something? Smith was never good.

[Arcade]

He was the No. 1 overall and he was doing okay until the shoulder injuries.

[Mister3nOut]

He was the No. 1 overall and he was doing okay until the shoulder injuries.

I guess. Benson would be in consideration as well then.

[Arcade]

Yeah, but I'm just saying if he leads them to say a 10-6, or 11-5 record, that's really great for a guy who was all but Ryan Leaf...

[mschuhe3]

****ing losing today.....

[Mister3nOut]

With the Cards getting blown out vs Carolina, I think we may still be ok.

[Mister3nOut]

CB Nate Clements might be out for the year.

[mschuhe3]

CB Nate Clements might be out for the year.

oh ****

[Ninersfan12]

New member here.

Tough news about Clements if true but I'm having doubts as to whether he is the best corner on this team. I think Spencer has outplayed him this season.

[Mister3nOut]

New member here.

Tough news about Clements if true but I'm having doubts as to whether he is the best corner on this team. I think Spencer has outplayed him this season.

Clements actually wasn't even starting this last game. He was used as the nickel corner. Spencer's only two memorable screw-ups have come on plays in which he's been fooled. (play action to Owen Daniels last week and HB pass this week) Otherwise, he's been more lock-down than NC.

[Ninersfan12]

I know he wasn't starting yesterday because of what the coaches called "matchup issues" but they planned on having him start against Tennessee. Lets see if Brown can step up in his absence.

Heard its 6-8 weeks for Clements and 6 weeks for Staley. Staley is going to be a bigger loss because the OL depth just isn't there.

[giantsfan6017]

Wow Walt Harris and now Clements your CB's are screwed

[giantsfan6017]

Does anyone like my signature?

[fikedemon]

we are fine at cb. spencer and brown have really stepped up as the starters. that's what we drafted them for. I believe when clements return next season hopefully I think we should move him to strong safety.

[Mister3nOut]

Lol, Singletary fails.

[Ninersfan12]

Defense and turnovers were letdowns today.

Also, I thought they threw the ball way too many times. Gore only had 15 carries and I thought he was doing well. He needed more carries.

[chikmagnet565]

When Raye runs the ball too many times he's criticized, when he doesn't run it enough he's criticized.
LOL

Personally, I've had it with this team.
I predicted 6-10 at the beginning of the season and it's looking like it might just come true.

I'm very disappointed.

[Arcade]

Ok, after last night's loss, I highly doubt we win the division. I'm going to keep my sig, but I can't see us losing only two of our next 8 games... I doubt we'll beat the Cards at home, seeing as they've been undefeated on the road so far. Cards are completely up-n-down, so I expect them to win half of their upcoming games, leaving them at 9-7. I think we can still win this week, against the Bears, seeing as how this is a big, primetime, game, and Cutler flops in those games, and next week against the Packers, we can likely get a ton of sacks. The Jags are also a likely win, seeing as we can stop running games. That leaves us at 6-5, so far, but... The Seahawks may beat us, who knows, that is a toss-up, and I'm leaning towards loss. 6-6. Cards game will 90% be a loss, they're a good team, and they've been great on the road. 6-7. Our last two games are the Lions and the Rams, so that is two wins, 8-7. The Eagles game would be a must-win, and that game could go either way, and I'm leaning towards Eagles win. The Cards meanwhile have games against the Packers, Rams, Rams, and Lions, and that is four wins right there. So they've already got AT LEAST 9-7. The upcoming Seahawks game will likely be a win, as will the 49ers game, and the Titans game. We're not winning the division unless we beat the Cards at home, and we have no chance for a wild-card spot.

[Ninersfan12]

I think Arizona and Chicago at home are toss-ups, maybe slight edge to SF. Chicago is a must-win, lose that game and its over. Win and maybe you get confident heading into GB. Thats going to be a tough game but hopefully we can get to Rodgers. I saw some of GB-TB yesterday and there is no worse OL than the Pack.

Jags, Rams, Lions, and Seattle are winnable. At Seattle is always tough but I think we can hang with them and maybe get a close win.

[Arcade]

I'm pretty confident the Packers game will be a win, they've got no Line. It's like they've got Freshman up there blocking. High School Freshman...

[Portnam]

How did the OL play without Staley?

[Arcade]

Sims was sufficient, I assume. Once Staley comes back, we should put Sims on the right side, he'd be a huge improvement.

[Mister3nOut]

Ok, after last night's loss, I highly doubt we win the division. I'm going to keep my sig, but I can't see us losing only two of our next 8 games... I doubt we'll beat the Cards at home, seeing as they've been undefeated on the road so far. Cards are completely up-n-down, so I expect them to win half of their upcoming games, leaving them at 9-7. I think we can still win this week, against the Bears, seeing as how this is a big, primetime, game, and Cutler flops in those games, and next week against the Packers, we can likely get a ton of sacks. The Jags are also a likely win, seeing as we can stop running games. That leaves us at 6-5, so far, but... The Seahawks may beat us, who knows, that is a toss-up, and I'm leaning towards loss. 6-6. Cards game will 90% be a loss, they're a good team, and they've been great on the road. 6-7. Our last two games are the Lions and the Rams, so that is two wins, 8-7. The Eagles game would be a must-win, and that game could go either way, and I'm leaning towards Eagles win. The Cards meanwhile have games against the Packers, Rams, Rams, and Lions, and that is four wins right there. So they've already got AT LEAST 9-7. The upcoming Seahawks game will likely be a win, as will the 49ers game, and the Titans game. We're not winning the division unless we beat the Cards at home, and we have no chance for a wild-card spot.

Mathematically, we're obviously still alive... but realistically, we're not good enough.

We're 2-1 vs teams I'd consider to be bad. (Sea, StL, Ten)

And 1-4 vs good teams. (everyone else that was on our schedule)

We need to draft a quarterback. The league has evolved. No matter how good the rest of the team is, you can't win without a top passer. Look at Ten and Car. They're up, then they're down... because they don't have consistency at QB.


Sims was sufficient, I assume. Once Staley comes back, we should put Sims on the right side, he'd be a huge improvement.

Our RT spot is just cursed. Sims played like **** on the right but is decent on the left side.

I'd actually go as far as to say this was our O-Line's most consistent run blocking game. Gore averaged 5.5 yards. Yes, he's averaged more but his numbers were inflated due to one or two huge runs.

[Mister3nOut]

Lol. Well the streak is broken at least and we'll have a 10 day break until we go to Lambeau Field.

[Chg91]

boooo, you guys.

Actually, I'm curious. With 2 likely top 15 picks in next year's draft, which players or what positions are you guys hoping are addressed?

I've seen everything from OT to QB to CB to NT (to LB, to Safety..), and just about all of them make some sense. So, yeah, what would you guys prefer?

[Ninersfan12]

Ugly win but I'll take it.

Thanks, Jay Cutler.

[Mister3nOut]

boooo, you guys.

Actually, I'm curious. With 2 likely top 15 picks in next year's draft, which players or what positions are you guys hoping are addressed?

I've seen everything from OT to QB to CB to NT (to LB, to Safety..), and just about all of them make some sense. So, yeah, what would you guys prefer?

Aubrayo Franklin has played well at NT. He's in a contract year so hopefully he's re-signed. What we need are pass rushing OLB's. The majority of our pressure comes from our DL. That shouldn't be the case in a 3-4. A playmaking safety would be a luxury pick but a useful one. Safeties Dashon Goldson and Michael Lewis are solid but they don't make very many big plays.

That's defense. What we desperately need is offense. That includes a franchise quarterback, an offensive right tackle, an offensive guard, and speed on offense either in the form of a Felix Jones type RB or a Desean Jackson type WR. Our fastest offensive player is our TE. He's a freak but that's still kind of sad.

[Arcade]

I'm currently giving us Eric Berry with the first of our picks, the panthers pick, and Anthony Davis with the second. I'm absolutely loving what I'm seeing in run blocking from Davis, and he could start at right tackle right away. If Noel Devine falls to us in the 3rd, that would also give us the big-play threat we need. Gore has that, but he's not game-breakingly fast. Devine is just all speed. However, the problem with a speed running back like you said, is that we don't have a good run-blocking line. Power backs can make the most of a bad O-Line performance, but speed backs depend on that O-Line.

[Chg91]

Aubrayo Franklin has played well at NT. He's in a contract year so hopefully he's re-signed. What we need are pass rushing OLB's. The majority of our pressure comes from our DL. That shouldn't be the case in a 3-4. A playmaking safety would be a luxury pick but a useful one. Safeties Dashon Goldson and Michael Lewis are solid but they don't make very many big plays.

That's defense. What we desperately need is offense. That includes a franchise quarterback, an offensive right tackle, an offensive guard, and speed on offense either in the form of a Felix Jones type RB or a Desean Jackson type WR. Our fastest offensive player is our TE. He's a freak but that's still kind of sad.

What I'm hearing about Aubrayo is that, since he hasn't really played at a top level before this year, that it's buyer beware - the only reason he's playing this good is to earn himself a deal, and what's to say he doesn't phone it in after he makes his money?

[Arcade]

Wow:http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8142c631&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true


I hope this pans out, Bruce was still a pretty good receiver. Guess this is his final year in the NFL, what a great reciever, HoF for sure.

[Ninersfan12]

Its a move that I've been expecting for a while. Bruce was showing age this season after a decent year last year. He'll still be a mentor for the 3 young WR's on the team, which is a good thing.

[Mister3nOut]

Wow:http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8142c631&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true


I hope this pans out, Bruce was still a pretty good receiver. Guess this is his final year in the NFL, what a great reciever, HoF for sure.

I think the only reason he was officially in the starting lineup for this long was because he's so well respected. He's lost a step and his hands are no longer reliable.

[Arcade]

Its a move that I've been expecting for a while. Bruce was showing age this season after a decent year last year. He'll still be a mentor for the 3 young WR's on the team, which is a good thing.

Still, it's strange to think that the Cardinals game in Week 1 will be the last time I hear "Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!"

[Arcade]

Season over? We've got to run the board from here to even have a CHANCE at winning the division, and with losses to the Packers AND Falcons we have no wild-card chance...

[Ninersfan12]

I would think this effectively ends the season.

Offense only comes alive when they are down by 20. Smith made some good throws in the 2nd half but that INT was a killer.

[Arcade]

Well, if Warner is out for the season, we have a much, much, much better chance of winning the division. Leinart isn't half the QB Warner is. If Warner's out for the Niners game, I'm no longer waffling about that game, I'm calling it a Niners W. Same with the Titans game. While Warner would've easily been able to take advantage of the Titans pass D problems, Leinart likely won't. The Vikings game I was already calling a loss, and that's already 3 losses, putting them at most at 10-6. With the Packers game ending the season, I would call that another Cards loss. Making them 9-7. The 49ers can go at least 9-7, and with the head-to-head tiebreaker, that would mean playoffs for Niners. Here's hoping bad health for Warner.

[Ninersfan12]

I know the schedule isn't that hard but I have a bad feeling about next week.

I say we could win @ Seattle and I'll stick with St. Louis and Detroit as locks, so 7-9.

EDIT: Forgot about Warner situation, so maybe 8-8? I think thats the best we can do.

[Arcade]

I think we can get to 9-7.

Jaguars. A tough game to predict, but both teams are playoff stretches right now(though the 49ers obviously need this much more) and they know that, so I think this'll be a question of which coach better motivates his team. Del Rio hasn't been known as a great motivator, while Singletary has, so for that reason I'd lean towards the 49ers. W

Seahawks. We played really well against the Seahawks last game, and though they didn't have Hasselbeck in that game, we also didn't have Alex Smith OR Michael Crabtree. W.

Cards. A pretty big rivalry game at home bodes well for the 49ers, and if Warner doesn't play this game, I'd say this is a sure win(unless Leinart busts out).

Eagles. This is the game that most worries me of all the games on our remaining schedule. It's tough to bet against the Eagles in December, especially considering this is a home game, and we'll be traveling all the way to Pennsylvania. L.

Lions. Lions showed some signs of life tonight, but I still don't think their run D will be able to stop Frank Gore, and I think our defense is good enough to stop them. W

Rams. We pwned the Rams without Alex Smith, Frank Gore, or Michael Crabtree. We can do it again. W


I'd say 9-7. Next week will be a crazy important game, though in the situation we're in, every game is crazy important.

[Arcade]

Warner=Fine
Season=Over

[Mister3nOut]

If we keep McCloughan, I riot.

VD is a beast. 600 yards and 8 TD's on just a terrible offense. We don't pick up a 1st down until like the 3rd quarter. 5 TD's to tie Gates for the most TD's in a season for a TE.

[fikedemon]

I think our season is officially over. We need a miracle or a blessing from the football gods to make it in the playoffs. As much as I like Coach Sing he really pisses me off. His philosophy does not fit our team. It never has and as long as we have the Oline we have now it never will. We are not a power running team. Jimmy Raye is the worst OC we have ever had. Alex Smith is a complete bust. Yeah he plays better in a spread but this is the NFL. A QB has to be effective in any formation. I want to scream im so pissed.:mad:

[Woodrift]

News will be out on on Wednesday regarding Warner's status for the upcoming week and the rest of the season. If he goes down, I can see the Cardinals finishing up 9-7 with 2 more wins coming against the Lions and Rams.

By my estimations, the best San Fran can do is go 8-8, presuming a loss against the Jaguars this weekend. This game really is pivitol for their season, I hope they can get up for it and make the NFC West contestable once again.

[Arcade]

Niners actually looking like a playoff team so far in this game. Alex Smith and the receivers are like a finely tuned machine, Frank Gore is getting it done, and while our pass D is giving up plays, they're not giving up the plays that matter: Touchdowns.

[Arcade]

We/Titans have now cut the Card division lead to 1.5! I STILL BELIEVE! MAGIC POWERS HERE WE GO!

[Ninersfan12]

Pass rush was great yesterday.

They need to keep that up to have a shot.

Run game was disappointing yesterday but good to see the passing game open up.

[Ninersfan12]

Big game tomorrow in Seattle. A win could potentially put the 49ers 1 game back of Arizona if they lose to Minnesota.

[Ninersfan12]

Well, none of the above happened and now the 49ers are 3 out with 4 to play, making it extremely unlikely that they'll make the playoffs.

Stupid penalties, putrid 3rd down %, and redzone failures are why the 49ers lost.

[Ochocinco]

lol 49ers miss playoffs

[Arcade]

Well, none of the above happened and now the 49ers are 3 out with 4 to play, making it extremely unlikely that they'll make the playoffs.

Stupid penalties, putrid 3rd down %, and redzone failures are why the 49ers lost.

Mostly 3rd down. We SUCK on 3rd down. I believe we are the worst team in the league in 3rd down percentage.

[Mister3nOut]

So can we fire Singletary at the end of the year or is it too early.

[Woodrift]

So can we fire Singletary at the end of the year or is it too early.

Too early. And it's not like SF haven't improved this year.

[Mister3nOut]

Too early. And it's not like SF haven't improved this year.

If we lose Monday, we'll be 5-8 for the second year in a row.

[Arcade]

Let's take a look at our playoff chances, shall we?

If we win out(Tough task though), we're at 9-7 with a conference record of 8-4. That's possible.
If Dallas collapses as they usually do, and win only vs. the Skins(which I doubt even THAT happens) they're at 9-7 with a conference record of 7-5. That's possible.
If New York loses at Minnesota after winning all the other games(Though they may lose vs. Washington) They're at 9-7 with a conference record of 7-5. Possible.
If the Falcons lose one more game(and I think they lose against the Jets next week) they are at best 8-8. Possible.



tl;dr version: Niners might make the Wild Card at 9-7.

[Arcade]

Interesting Fact:

The 49ers haven't had a winning record within the division since the 2002 season. "Coincidentally" the last time we made the playoffs. They went 5-1 within the div that season. The 2009ers(Pun gods, please forgive me) are 4-1 after the win over the Cards, and are set to go 5-1 barring a huuuge Rams upset.


Forgive me for being optimistic about Playoffs.

[Mister3nOut]

We missed our chance vs Seattle. It seems like every other week, we go into a "must win" game which we lose. The entire fanbase is down, then we pick up an improbable win and all of a sudden we're back in it. There's only so many must win games we can lose before I lose hope.


I'll only talk about playoffs if we beat Phi.

[Arcade]

If we do beat Philly, we have to be very, vewy, berry, careful about the Lions game. It could be a huuuge letdown game.


First we have to beat Philly. Hopefully they're favoured so we win.

[Ninersfan12]

I don't see Detroit or St. Louis as a threat, really.

If we play balanced football on offense and rock solid D, Niners should be good for a couple wins.

This Sunday is going to be difficult. I don't like our matchups vs Philly unless the weather becomes a factor.

[Arcade]

Bah, humbug...

Next year's schedule:
vs. Falcons(L) 0-1
vs. Panthers(W) 1-1
vs. Broncos(W) 2-1
vs. Chiefs(W) 3-1
vs. Cowboys(W) 4-1
vs. Rams(W) 5-1
vs. Seahawks(W) 6-1
vs. Cardinals(W) 7-1
at Saints(L) 7-2
at Buccaneers(W) 8-2
at Raiders(W) 9-2
at Chargers(L) 9-3
at Packers(L) 9-4
at Rams(W) 10-4
at Seahawks(L) 10-5
at Cardinals(L) 10-6

[Mister3nOut]

I can has new GM?

[Ninersfan12]

Ugly, ugly game today.

To think that we took Chilo Rachal over DeSean Jackson is disgusting.

[Mister3nOut]

Ugly, ugly game today.

To think that we took Chilo Rachal over DeSean Jackson is disgusting.

You forgot Kentwan Balmer.

[Ninersfan12]

Balmer has been hurt this year but that is looking like a bad pick.

The team expected him to play plenty of snaps this year.

Rachal came up because he's been playing.

[Mister3nOut]

So guys, what are your stances on the following"

The Yorks:
Scot McCloughan:
Singletary:
Alex Smith:
Manny Lawson (bust?):
Balmer:

[Ninersfan12]

The York's: Jed is running the ship now and has been for the past year, Denise and John are most definitely in the background. Those close to the team say he's more Eddie DeBartolo than John York, so that is potentially a good thing.

Scot McCloughan: I want to see if this team improves with him having 100% control. I'd give McCloughan another couple years before evaluating but so far its been mixed results.

Singletary: He's dealing with a relatively young team and an average roster, so mistakes are going to be made but his no B.S. style and wanting to be fundamentally sound football team is a good fit in the long run. Showed he's willing to approve of opening up the offense a bit more.

Alex Smith: Will be our starter in 2010 unless they can find a better one in FA or draft, which looks doubtful. Pretty much nothing more than an average to above average NFL QB. Give him 2010 and evaluate from there.

Manny Lawson: Has improved some facets of his game but he's still inconsistent when rushing the passer and that was the #1 factor in why they took him. He's been recently off the field for most pass rush situations, so it might show that the team is disappointed. Would not be a surprise if they check out the pass rush market in FA or draft.

Balmer: Injury riddled season but the team supposedly liked his progress throughout camp. Hopefully, he can make an impact next season. We definitely need to see him on the field more.

[Mister3nOut]

The York's: Jed is running the ship now and has been for the past year, Denise and John are most definitely in the background. Those close to the team say he's more Eddie DeBartolo than John York, so that is potentially a good thing.

Scot

Jed's a cute kid but at the end of the day, it's still his parents signing the checks. If it were his money, I'd be more optimistic but as of right now, I see him more as a PR guy. He's there to reassure the fans more than really make any changes. He's a likable guy, unlike his dad.

[Mike T]

I hated the Yorks the first couple of years but they have backed off now.

McCloughan followed some awful drafts and made some bad picks but the past few years have been pretty solid.

I like Singletary a lot, his confidence and demeanor has carried over to the team.

I feel bad for Smith since he has had to learn a new system every year but he will not ever be an elite QB. I just want him to take better care of the ball and make smarter reads.

Lawson has been OK but he isn't a dynamic pass-rusher.

Balmer looks more and more like a bust, injuries or not.

[ohyougotit]

Gore is good

[Tango]

He really is. But pretty injury prone.

[Ninersfan12]

Jed's a cute kid but at the end of the day, it's still his parents signing the checks. If it were his money, I'd be more optimistic but as of right now, I see him more as a PR guy. He's there to reassure the fans more than really make any changes. He's a likable guy, unlike his dad.

He is a DeBartolo after all, so I'm sure he gets his piece.

Its actually common knowledge around here that his parents have given him the day to day operations of the team.

[Ninersfan12]

Game about to start.

I say we win by 2 TD's.

[Ninersfan12]

49ers win. 20-6.

Detroit turned it over 6 times. Gore ran it 28 times for 71 yards, and a TD to reach 1,000 rushing yards for the 4th consecutive season. He also had 4 catches for 81 yards. Dre' Bly, Dashon Goldson, and Patrick Willis had 1 pick each.

[Mister3nOut]

He really is. But pretty injury prone.

He only misses a few games a year.

http://www.nfl.com/players/frankgore/profile?id=GOR411171

Look at the GS's for each year. It goes down every year by one, in perfect order. He should start 12 games next year.



He is a DeBartolo after all, so I'm sure he gets his piece.

Its actually common knowledge around here that his parents have given him the day to day operations of the team.

Yea but let's say he wanted to go out and hire Shanahan to a huge contract. He'd have to convince his mommy and daddy first.

[Ninersfan12]

Updated draft order has the Niners in a similar position to last week.

Carolina's win moves the pick down a spot to 13 while the original pick holds at 11.

[Arcade]

The Yorks: Meh. They do as owners should, not be Al Davis.
Scot McCloughan: He's done a fairly good job from the years I've been a supporter, but this upcoming draft is critical.
Singletary: Best motivational coach in the league. Turned Vernon from a scrub into possibly the best TE in the NFC. Not the best manager of games(Time outs, challenges), but that comes with experience.
Alex Smith: What can you expect from a guy who's been put on the ground his whole career, and has never been in the same system twice. He's been disregarded every offseason throughout his whole career, yet he still comes back and fights to prove he's good? That's heart. He may not be an elite QB, but he has a winning attitude. Plus he's hot.
Manny Lawson (bust?): Yes. Bust. Hopefully either Ahmad Brooks or a drafted Hughes can remedy this positional deficiency.
Balmer: See above.

[Ninersfan12]

49ers win, 28-6.

Lackluster first half but good to see the team break it open.

Smith made a nice throw to Vernon Davis on the TD. Davis scored 1 TD, so he ended the season tied with Gates for the most TD's by a TE in a season. Gore got 107 yards rushing and 2 TD's. Gore ends the season with 1,120 yards and 10 rushing TD's(13 total).

EDIT: As for the draft order, the 49ers look to be picking at 13 and 17. If Jets lose, the 2nd pick goes to 18 due to tie-breaker.

[fikedemon]

If you were the 49ers GM. What changes would you makethis offseason.

1.Sign a good young free agent RT
2.Resign Bass,Franklin,Bly,Pashos and Simms.
3.Move Nate Clements to strong safety.
4.Switch to a 4-3 defense
5.Combine our first round draft picks to move up and draft Suh.

[49ersfan]

The only thing in that post I agree with is your sig. Nate Clements needs to move to FS, allowing our big hitter, Dashon, to move to SS. We dont need tackles, contrary to what Walter and the National Media seem to think. Barry Sims has been playing out of his mind, even against guys like Mario Williams and Dwight Freeney, and Joe Staley, while very shaky at LT, is an excellent RT. We need to draft a rush linebacker to replace Parys; hopefully one who can hold the edge on outside runs. Baas sucks and should be replaced with one of our first rounders, and the other pick should be used on a corner to replace Terrell Brown, who sucked this year and is a nickel at best.

[Ninersfan12]

I don't think Sims could keep that up over 16 games. He's a good backup to have that can play in a pinch, like when Staley went out. Sims was awful in 08, so its nice to see that he bounced back and did alright. I thought Staley was showing growth at LT before the injury. He had trouble with Jared Allen but who doesn't? Adam Snyder is terrible, he's either out of position(OG?) or he just plain sucks. With Baas being a FA, I think they'll need 2 new starters on that OL.

It looks like Nate Clements will stay at CB. He does seem a bit undersized as a safety, so that could have been a factor. I think we'll need 1 starting safety, I would look at FS's so that the team can move Goldson to SS. I agree on Brown being a nickel. I don't know if he'll become a starter in the future but nickel is where he should be at.

[49ersfan]

Sims started 7 games against some very tough competition. If he had started 2 or 3 games I could see why you would think it was a fluke, but I think 7 games is pretty legit. Snyder is decent at guard, but I think he and Baas are both busts. New guards needs to be a priority. Also, what is your source for Clements staying at CB? Last I heard, he was moving.

[Ninersfan12]

I think the Merc or Chronicle, one of the Bay Area papers.

They were probably considering it but in the end, decided not to.

EDIT: Sac Bee - http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/2010/01/cb-chatter-clem.html

[Arcade]

We do NOT need to move to the 4-3. If we do, I'm going to be pissed as ****, especially with all the great 3-4 talent in the upcoming draft.

[Ninersfan12]

I doubt we're moving to the 4-3. Manusky is a 3-4 guy and they only switched to it full time in the middle of 2008.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Franklin. They could be weary that it was a career year when his contract is up.

[giantsfan6017]

49ersfan is back!!!

[Mister3nOut]

I doubt we're moving to the 4-3. Manusky is a 3-4 guy and they only switched to it full time in the middle of 2008.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Franklin. They could be weary that it was a career year when his contract is up.

We'll tag him. Won't that be considered another contract year?

[Ninersfan12]

How much is the tag for a DT?

[Mister3nOut]

How much is the tag for a DT?

2,000 Cheeseburgers

Really, I'm not sure but these are the highest paid DT's.

http://footballoutsiders.com/under-cap/2009/under-cap-top-ten-defensive-tackles

[Ninersfan12]

Looks to be around $8M for 2010.

[Arcade]

We've hired Kury Schottenheimer as our ST Coordinator:
http://www.49ers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Kurt-Schottenheimer-Named-ST-Coordinator/ff4cb87e-09d9-4a21-a884-bdc547001a80


Another Schottenheimer? Argh...

[Mister3nOut]

We've hired Kury Schottenheimer as our ST Coordinator:
http://www.49ers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Kurt-Schottenheimer-Named-ST-Coordinator/ff4cb87e-09d9-4a21-a884-bdc547001a80


Another Schottenheimer? Argh...

Marty ball on ST. Can't wait.

[yyzsfo]

Line play wins games/championships. The 49ers need to draft at least one top OT in the 1st round & a top G in the 2nd. I like the idea of drafting Spiller in 1st round--to give the 49ers a return game and a change of pace back/game changer. (They, obviously, shld have taken DeSean Jackson 2 yrs ago; & Aaron Rodgers before that; why discount local talent?).

[fikedemon]

Id draft Baluga and Trent Williams with our first two picks LOL. You can never have enough Tackles.

[Nasisorico]

I look at the 49ers, and I see a solid good football team.
However, they need an upgrade when it comes to team speed. The 49ers were too closed on offense and way too slow on defense, cept for P-Willis. He's just a beast

[Mister3nOut]

I look at the 49ers, and I see a solid good football team.
However, they need an upgrade when it comes to team speed. The 49ers were too closed on offense and way too slow on defense, cept for P-Willis. He's just a beast

We definitely need speed on offense. I think we're fine defensively though Usain Bolt for defensive tackle would be cool.

[Arcade]

I agree that we need speed on offense, but I really don't think CJ Spiller is the answer like many others do, especially if that pick is at the expense of say, Jerry Hughes, or Bulaga or Anthony Davis(Who I'd love if we could get).

[Arcade]

Gogators raised the possibility of the 49ers snatching McNabb. As far as I know, that would have to be as a result of a trade. What would my fellow Niners fans be willing to give up to get McNabb? I think our first 1st round pick, our 2011 2nd and 3rd and our 3rd would be enough for the Eagles.

[49ersfan]

I would give a 5th round pick and Kentwan Balmer. I don't like Alex Smith, but McNabb is just Jeff Garcia II, complete with zero scrambling. Why should we gave a ton of money to an overrated, washed up guy like McNabb?

[Mister3nOut]

Gogators raised the possibility of the 49ers snatching McNabb. As far as I know, that would have to be as a result of a trade. What would my fellow Niners fans be willing to give up to get McNabb? I think our first 1st round pick, our 2011 2nd and 3rd and our 3rd would be enough for the Eagles.

Let's throw in our Carolina 1st rounder, Vernon Davis, and Patrick Willis too just to be safe.

He's too old. I'd be ok giving up a 2nd rounder.


I agree that we need speed on offense, but I really don't think CJ Spiller is the answer like many others do, especially if that pick is at the expense of say, Jerry Hughes, or Bulaga or Anthony Davis(Who I'd love if we could get).

A cute little guy like CJ would get raped behind our line.

[fikedemon]

I say give up our 1st round pick that we robbed Carolina for and a 3rd. Thats it.

[Arcade]

I was joking, rather. Making fun of the Cutler trade, rather.

[Mike T]

I don't think we should give up more than a 2nd rd pick, we need to improve our OL and McNabb really struggles when his line doesn't give him time. Who do you guys think will be our QB next year? I think Alex Smith will get another chance and I doubt they go QB in the draft unless Bradford or Clausen is around when we pick.

[Arcade]

Well, our chances at the division crown just got a lot better with Warner's retirement, but I wouldn't say it's anywhere near locked up. Who knows what Pete Carroll can do this time around? I'd consider Seattle and San Francisco the real contenders for the division. Leinart has actually played quite a bit and he was never impressive. Against the Packers he was completely subpar, and against the Saints in his limited time as well. A rookie QB will likely struggle, so I think if the Hawks end up landing either Bradford or Clausen, we'll win the division quite easily.

[Mister3nOut]

We can afford to hold off on an OL until the 2nd quarter IMO. It's such a deep class that taking a RT 13th overall would seem like a waste.

[Arcade]

We can afford to hold off on an OL until the 2nd quarter IMO. It's such a deep class that taking a RT 13th overall would seem like a waste.

You mean 2nd round, I assume.

Who's going to be available in the 2nd round though? We can assume Okung, Campbell, Williams, Davis, Bulaga, and Brown are almost surely going to be gone. Who does that leave us? Kyle Calloway? Jared Veldheer?

Bulaga, Davis, and Williams are leagues better than those people...

[KT23]

How long are you guys going to give Alex Smith before you look elsewhere?

[Arcade]

How long are you guys going to give Alex Smith before you look elsewhere?

He's got this year. If he doesn't perform, if we miss the playoffs in this amazingly weak division again, he's out. No more "different OC each year" excuse for him to fall back on. No more "The team has no confidence in me, so I don't have confidence in myself".

This will almost surely be the first year since, really 2006, that we've thrown all of our weight behind Alex Smith. If he fails here, he'll never succeed.

[KT23]

He's got this year. If he doesn't perform, if we miss the playoffs in this amazingly weak division again, he's out. No more "different OC each year" excuse for him to fall back on. No more "The team has no confidence in me, so I don't have confidence in myself".

This will almost surely be the first year since, really 2006, that we've thrown all of our weight behind Alex Smith. If he fails here, he'll never succeed.

I hope he succeeds I think he really show'd some improvement last year and really enjoyed watching him play at Utah. With another year an actual training camp with Crabtree and another year with the new Vernon Davis he better be the man this year!!!

[Arcade]

I hope he succeeds I think he really show'd some improvement last year and really enjoyed watching him play at Utah. With another year an actual training camp with Crabtree and another year with the new Vernon Davis he better be the man this year!!!

Agree completely.

[Mister3nOut]

How long are you guys going to give Alex Smith before you look elsewhere?

We should be looking elsewhere right now, even if the team makes the playoffs in 2010. Teams without a franchise quarterback usually don't find longterm consistent success. Look at teams like the Bucs and Panthers post SB. In the playoffs one year, out the playoffs the next. It's just tough to maintain a top defense.

[Arcade]

We should be looking elsewhere right now, even if the team makes the playoffs in 2010. Teams without a franchise quarterback usually don't find longterm consistent success. Look at teams like the Bucs and Panthers post SB. In the playoffs one year, out the playoffs the next. It's just tough to maintain a top defense.

We should be looking, but we shouldn't be acting. We need to look heavily at quarterbacks all throughout the 2010 college football season.

But I think if an opportunity presents itself to nab a franchise QB(i.e. Clausen falling to us at 13), we should pull the trigger.

[Mister3nOut]

We should be looking, but we shouldn't be acting. We need to look heavily at quarterbacks all throughout the 2010 college football season.

But I think if an opportunity presents itself to nab a franchise QB(i.e. Clausen falling to us at 13), we should pull the trigger.

By pulling the trigger, you mean killing Alex Smith? Cuz I'd be down.

Do you want the 49ers to sign T.O.?

[Arcade]

By pulling the trigger, you mean killing Alex Smith? Cuz I'd be down.

Do you want the 49ers to sign T.O.?

Naah, just a TO fan, especially in his Niner days.

Though I wouldn't hate it if we got T.O. He actually seemed really well behaved in Buffalo. A WR corps with Josh Morgan, Michael Crabtree, and T.O. plus Vernon would be ****ing beast. That'd be a top 3 WR corps right there.

[Arcade]

Mike has committed to Smith as the starting QB. I like.

McCloughlan reiterated his preference for players with size. Spiller will not be a Niner.

[KT23]

Mike has committed to Smith as the starting QB. I like.

McCloughlan reiterated his preference for players with size. Spiller will not be a Niner.

I actually liked what I saw from Glen Coffee last season (as limited as his time was) so i hope you guys go defensive with both your picks, maybe Taylor Mays and Sergio Kindle. I can see you guys becoming a dominant defense a couple years down the road if they both life up to their potential.

[Arcade]

We had a very good defence last season. We can wait until the 2nd round for defence, I think, but we shouldn't.

I really think it would be in our best interests to go rush linebacker then right tackle. This is an amazingly deep cornerback class, and the safety class is very bottom heavy.

[KT23]

Yeah, right tackle is a pressing need for you guys but i wouldn't spend a first round pick on one. I just really would like to see Mays play for Singletary, maybe he can light a fire under his ass the way he did Davis.

[Arcade]

Yeah, right tackle is a pressing need for you guys but i wouldn't spend a first round pick on one. I just really would like to see Mays play for Singletary, maybe he can light a fire under his ass the way he did Davis.

There's no need to light a fire under his ass. None of Mays' shortcomings come from a lack of trying to improve. I mean, he went to the senior bowl, A. And he just damn plays with heart, and practises with heart. There's really no need to do any of that ****.

[KT23]

I didn't necessarily mean play harder, I think he has alot of unfulfilled potential.

[Arcade]

And I think he's working at fulfilling that potential. I don't think Singletary is going to do a better job of helping him do that than a DB coach.

[KT23]

I think that if Singletary drafts him in the first round then he'd definitely pay some attention to him, and the knowledge that he is getting talked to by someone who has been there before might help Mays try to make more plays on the ball. You can't tell me that Carroll wasn't telling him to do that at USC. Maybe he can respond better to an NFL legend.

[Arcade]

I think that if Singletary drafts him in the first round then he'd definitely pay some attention to him, and the knowledge that he is getting talked to by someone who has been there before might help Mays try to make more plays on the ball. You can't tell me that Carroll wasn't telling him to do that at USC. Maybe he can respond better to an NFL legend.

I think Carroll was telling him to try to win. The way Mays played was perfectly fine in college, against lesser quarterbacks and receivers. But in the NFL, pretty much every starting QB/WR(except JaMarcus Russell) can take advantage of you. Carroll didn't try to do anything special with Mays, he let him play to win.

[Arcade]

The 49ers resigned Matt Wilhelm to a one year deal! Finally some 49er news! I'm so lonely!

[Arcade]

49ers are seeking a trade for Hill. What do you guys think we can get for him.

I think a 2011 6th would make sense to me.

[Arcade]

So, apparently, Scot McCloughlan is out. I'm sort of happy, pending on who his replacement is.

[Mister3nOut]

So, apparently, Scot McCloughlan is out. I'm sort of happy, pending on who his replacement is.

The guy who was our director of player personnel before. I don't see much changing. Our draft board is already set and as long as Singletary doesn't have final say (Tim Tebow), it's fine.

[Arcade]

The guy who was our director of player personnel before. I don't see much changing. Our draft board is already set and as long as Singletary doesn't have final say (Tim Tebow), it's fine.

If we draft Tebow before the 4th round, and to use anywhere other than H-Back, I'm seriously considering becoming a full-time Broncos fan.

[LTomlinson31]

Here is the story of McClougan:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81717abc&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[Arcade]

Kind of happy Scot's gone. It always takes me at least three tries to spell McCloughan correctly. And now, only when he's gone, I spell it right on the first try. ****.

[Arcade]

The guy who was our director of player personnel before. I don't see much changing. Our draft board is already set and as long as Singletary doesn't have final say (Tim Tebow), it's fine.

No, that's only for the draft. We need a permanent replacement.

Brennan Carroll would be cool. I think he's got GM potential.

[Ninersfan12]

I think they'll find one after the season, we'll see how this Baalke guy does.

[Arcade]

Anyone else think Sing is in trouble if we miss the playoffs? I think he's gone, anyone sane who's not a fan of the division rivals has us winning the division, and Mike's biggest fan in McCloughan is gone.

[10Pound]

No way they would get rid of him if they missed this year, and there's a few reasons for it. First of all, I think they will win the west this year pretty easily, but if they were to miss it would have to be because of something pretty extreme. The only game they outright LOST last year was ATL, every other game they were in it, but just couldn't seal the deal. That makes me think after another year under everyone's belt, only a mass of injuries could keep them out of the playoffs, which wouldn't be Singletary's fault. Next, he really hasn't started over completely like a lot of other coaches do when they take over teams. Sure the coaches are different, but for the most part the players haven't changed. I think teams who try to build through the draft are generally more patient with HC's, since very few rookies are hall of fame caliber from day one.

[Arcade]

We lost the Texans and Packers games too. We were barely in those games for almost the whole game, and were only in the Texans game because they hadn't gameplanned for Alex and in the Packers game because they lost two DBs.

[10Pound]

The texans were well within reach, as were the vikings, colts, and seattle. If those L's are W's, Singletary should be fine.

[Arcade]

The texans were well within reach, as were the vikings, colts, and seattle. If those L's are W's, Singletary should be fine.

We should have won that Seattle game.

[10Pound]

Without a doubt

[Mister3nOut]

Anyone else think Sing is in trouble if we miss the playoffs? I think he's gone, anyone sane who's not a fan of the division rivals has us winning the division, and Mike's biggest fan in McCloughan is gone.

Should he be in trouble? Yes.
Will he be? Probably not. He'd get another year.

[Arcade]

I'm willing to bet we make the playoffs, don't get me wrong. I'm also willing to bet that if we don't make the playoffs, Mike is as gone as Scot was. That'd be three straight years in which he failed to make the playoffs, and he's been promising lofty things. Especially if we continue to lose games because of coaching errors.

[Arcade]

Ginn, my boy! I'm ubes.


Apparently, we're not passing up Clausen at 13th. I don't know what to think about this. Bradford-Clausen would become an epp rivalry, though.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2010/04/15/the-clausen-scenario-if-hes-there-the-49ers-almost-certainly-will-take-him-13th/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+kawakami-me

[Mister3nOut]

Apparently, we're not passing up Clausen at 13th. I don't know what to think about this. Bradford-Clausen would become an epp rivalry, though.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2010/04/15/the-clausen-scenario-if-hes-there-the-49ers-almost-certainly-will-take-him-13th/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+kawakami-me

It's good to hear that Baalke has some sense.

Also, McCloughan reportedly resigned because of alcoholism. He missed several meeting and showed up drunk on occasion. Lolololol.

[Arcade]

Well, he is Irish.

[Mister3nOut]

Well, he is Irish.

And he was fired right after St. Patrick's Day. He must've done something particularly crazy that day.

[Arcade]

And he was fired right after St. Patrick's Day. He must've done something particularly crazy that day.

He probably almost traded Patrick Willis for another beer or something.

[Arcade]

The 49ers could get Ben Roethlisberger. I'd be in nirvana if we managed to pull it off. I mean, he's a guy with at least 6 years left probably more, has played great at times with a ****ty offensive line, is a playoff veteran, and has experience leaning on a running game and great defence. If we get Roethlisberger and start Smith the first 4 games, we'll be in the playoffs for sure, and might go deep.

[Arcade]

UDFA analysis:
Oklahoma LB Mike Balogun: Some backup who didn't even play in 2009. Had one subpar season in 08. Did great in junior college. About a 5% chance of making the team.

Belhaven CB Tramaine Brock: Played as a junior at Minnesota transferred to Belhaven(never heard of it) as a senior. See above.

West Virginia QB Jarrett Brown: This guy fell, not because he didn't produce, but because he's not prototypical at the position. Has a chance to do well, and might actually make the team. Depend on if he beats out David Carr, or possibly the Niners wanting to carry four QB's. 50% chance.

Mississippi WR Shay Hodge. IMO, the best of our free agent signings. Was All-SEC last season, and is in the Ole Miss record books for a reason. Was being talked about by some as a 4th rounder, so I'm extremely glad we signed him. Could very, very likely make the team, and possibly even rack up some stats even in his first season. 80%.

Oregon State LB Keaton Kristick. Only started two years at Oregon St. Likely won't make the team given our crowded linebacker corps. 30% chance.

Louisville WR Scott Long. Another nice WR pick up. Long could do well, but it's a stretch. Very likely only one of him and Hodge will make the team. 15%.

Wisconsin S Christopher Maragos. Bla bla bla, some scrub, bla bla bla, won't make the team.

Missouri WR Jared Perry. See Maragos.

Western Illinois CB Patrick Stoudamire. Nice pick up that provides depth at a position where depth is crucial. Didn't face the toughest competition, and doesn't have ideal size, but with our aging, injury-prone defensive backfield, he could very likely makethe team. 65%.

Florida A&M CB/RS Leroy Vann. A great pick up. This guy was amazing in the return game at the FCS level, which while not the toughest, still has competent enough athletes that 11 combined returns touchdown's is not only surprising, but amazing. If Ginn doesn't work out and we ship him off, I expect Vann to do very well for us. Sometimes you just look past the size, the speed, the level of competition and see that this guy has a knack for getting that ball and taking it back for six points. Very excited about this one. 75%

[guru_92]

I'm extremely excited about watching if Jarret Brown can make the team. He was my favorite QB in this draft

[Arcade]

I'm extremely excited about watching if Jarret Brown can make the team. He was my favorite QB in this draft

I really doubt he will. We're not likely to release Carr, Davis is a fan favourite, and I doubt we carry 4 QB's. I think Brown is at best going to be on the practice squad.

[guru_92]

I really doubt he will. We're not likely to release Carr, Davis is a fan favourite, and I doubt we carry 4 QB's. I think Brown is at best going to be on the practice squad.

Yes, I don't expect him to beat out on of the QB's, but jsut hoping that he'll be on the practice team.

[Arcade]

Yes, I don't expect him to beat out on of the QB's, but jsut hoping that he'll be on the practice team.

Hopefully Carr gets injured in preseason or something and Jarrett becomes the emergency 3rd QB.

[Mister3nOut]

^Why is that quote in your sig. We can in fact play, win, and coach with Vernon Davis.

[Arcade]

^Why is that quote in your sig. We can in fact play, win, and coach with Vernon Davis.

But now he is sold out to be a part of this team...

It's a warning for Anthony.

[Arcade]

Rookie cornerback Phillip Adams came up with the first turnover of the week, when a pass deflected off of wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr.’s hands and into his own.

And so it begins...

****...

[guru_92]

And so it begins...

****...

......... *tired facepalm*... oh no

[EAkadima15]

What did you guys expect?...All you need is Crabtree and Vernon. Gore will take care of the rest. I personally am more optimistic on how Alex Smith will do this season than most. Though he's struggled for the duration of his NFL career, he's never acted like a diva and has always handled himself like a true professional. I think his natural talent coming from Utah and attitude will finally start to pay off for him this year.

[FoDaddy]

Taylor Mays moving up the Depth Chart. I'm calling at the minimum he is starting before the Seatle Game.

[Arcade]

Taylor Mays moving up the Depth Chart. I'm calling at the minimum he is starting before the Seatle Game.

I think he and Lewis will go about 50-50 in the Seattle game.

[Arcade]

Am I the only Niners fan who thinks we would look better in a 4-3?

Justin Smith would stay outside, Balmer could be opposite him where he's supposed to be, which would greatly improve our pass rush, Lawson would be a much better 4-3 OLB than a 3-4, and we could have Bowman opposite him. A 4-3 would also likely help us in coverage.

[guru_92]

Am I the only Niners fan who thinks we would look better in a 4-3?

Justin Smith would stay outside, Balmer could be opposite him where he's supposed to be, which would greatly improve our pass rush, Lawson would be a much better 4-3 OLB than a 3-4, and we could have Bowman opposite him. A 4-3 would also likely help us in coverage.

I've been thinking about it and it could work. Of course with Balmer sucking major balls, and maybe even be cut now our best chance is to see if Lawson or Haralson possibly could be a RE. Smith can surely play on the left side.

[Arcade]

I've been thinking about it and it could work. Of course with Balmer sucking major balls, and maybe even be cut now our best chance is to see if Lawson or Haralson possibly could be a RE. Smith can surely play on the left side.

Lawson isn't a good pass rusher, couldn't see him as an end. I think he's one of those rare players who plays OLB in both systems.

Haralson and Brooks, possibly. Think Balmer would be better than both, though.

I think Smith could play DE in the 4-3, but I'd place him at DT. He's extremely versatile, and having him and Aubrayo Franklin inside would provide suffocating run defence, without the need for extra pressure. Add to that Smith's proficiency in the pass rush repartment, and I think he's much better suited playing inside.

[Mister3nOut]

Why mess with a formula that works? We have no good pass rushers, yet as a unit, had one of the highest sack totals in the league. Manusky's 34 scheme is the reason for that.

Predict our record. I have us at 10-6. We play in the NFCW and in addition, have the AFCW on our schedule! We play a grand total of 3 competent quarterbacks in Rivers, Ryan, and Brees. The rest of the way we play gays like Bradford, Freeman, Cassel, Orton. Our pass D should be top 10 due to the schedule alone. In terms of talent, we're closer to a 7-9 team but whatever.

[Mister3nOut]

That was unexpected but expected. I knew we were a 7-9 team in disguise but I'd still expect to beat the Seahawks.

[Arcade]

If we beat the Rams next week, we're only half a game behind them.

THIS SEASON ISN'T (technically) OVER!

[Arcade]

Wishlist for upcoming offseason:

Josh McDaniels for OC
Rob Ryan for HC
Trade for (or sign) Kolb
Draft a CB in the 1st

[Mister3nOut]

No, screw Ryan. I'd love love McDaniels as an OC though. I just don't want another coach who believes in running the ball and being "physical." That just means they're stupid or stubborn.

[tigerking615]

We need either an offensive head coach, or a great OC. My top four HC candidates would be Gruden, Harbaugh, Schottenheimer/Mornhinweg, but if we were to get someone like McDaniels, Norv Turner, or even Jim Zorn (if he wants to upgrade to OC) I would accept a defensive-minded coach.

[Arcade]

No, screw Ryan. I'd love love McDaniels as an OC though. I just don't want another coach who believes in running the ball and being "physical." That just means they're stupid or stubborn.

I think with McDaniels as OC, we could allow ourselves a defensive HC.

[tigerking615]

So guys... post your brilliant, idealistic plan to turn our franchise around. I'm not sure about the GM part since I don't know enough about all the GMs in the league, but here goes the rest:

1) Start Nate Davis vs the Cards to see what we got with him, and hopefully to help with step 2.
2) Lose our last game to end up with a top 5 pick. Seriously, have you seen how many 5-10 teams there are right now? Winning this last game could drop us out of the top 10.
3) Hire Jim Harbaugh.
4) Trade the Panthers our 2011 and 2012 1st rounders for the #1 pick. Draft Andrew Luck.
5) Let Goldson walk in free agency. Move Clements to FS. Seriously, it would be a way better fit. Mays/Smith can compete for SS (prob Mays).
6) Use our 2nd/3rd rounder on a corner (assuming it's not a reach). Brandon Burton? And sign another CB that could also compete for the #2 job across Shawntae.
7) Use 2nd/3rd rounder on rush OLB. He can compete with Ahmad and Travis. Use Bowman as OLB on running downs. Try out Manny at ILB - does no one else think that would be a good fit for him?
8) Win multiple super bowls.

[Arcade]

So guys... post your brilliant, idealistic plan to turn our franchise around. I'm not sure about the GM part since I don't know enough about all the GMs in the league, but here goes the rest:

1) Start Nate Davis vs the Cards to see what we got with him, and hopefully to help with step 2.
2) Lose our last game to end up with a top 5 pick. Seriously, have you seen how many 5-10 teams there are right now? Winning this last game could drop us out of the top 10.
3) Hire Jim Harbaugh.
4) Trade the Panthers our 2011 and 2012 1st rounders for the #1 pick. Draft Andrew Luck.
5) Let Goldson walk in free agency. Move Clements to FS. Seriously, it would be a way better fit. Mays/Smith can compete for SS (prob Mays).
6) Use our 2nd/3rd rounder on a corner (assuming it's not a reach). Brandon Burton? And sign another CB that could also compete for the #2 job across Shawntae.
7) Use 2nd/3rd rounder on rush OLB. He can compete with Ahmad and Travis. Use Bowman as OLB on running downs. Try out Manny at ILB - does no one else think that would be a good fit for him?
8) Win multiple super bowls.

Loooooooooooool.

[Mister3nOut]

So guys... post your brilliant, idealistic plan to turn our franchise around. I'm not sure about the GM part since I don't know enough about all the GMs in the league, but here goes the rest:

1) Start Nate Davis vs the Cards to see what we got with him, and hopefully to help with step 2.
2) Lose our last game to end up with a top 5 pick. Seriously, have you seen how many 5-10 teams there are right now? Winning this last game could drop us out of the top 10.
3) Hire Jim Harbaugh.
4) Trade the Panthers our 2011 and 2012 1st rounders for the #1 pick. Draft Andrew Luck.
5) Let Goldson walk in free agency. Move Clements to FS. Seriously, it would be a way better fit. Mays/Smith can compete for SS (prob Mays).
6) Use our 2nd/3rd rounder on a corner (assuming it's not a reach). Brandon Burton? And sign another CB that could also compete for the #2 job across Shawntae.
7) Use 2nd/3rd rounder on rush OLB. He can compete with Ahmad and Travis. Use Bowman as OLB on running downs. Try out Manny at ILB - does no one else think that would be a good fit for him?
8) Win multiple super bowls.

You forgot this one: DO NOT hire Trent Baalke as the permanent GM.

[Arcade]

You forgot this one: DO NOT hire Trent Baalke as the permanent GM.

Seems as though we're out of luck, friend.

[tigerking615]

Loooooooooooool.
Okay, some of it is a bit far-fetched, but do you disagree with anything?


Seems as though we're out of luck, friend.


Don't give up yet!

[Arcade]

Seems as though we're out of Luck, friend.

Lol, at accidental pun.

[tigerking615]

So, is anyone else pumped for the draft, next season, 49ers future, world peace, etc.?

[Chg91]

y'all *****es n homos.

[Mister3nOut]

You go to Hell, Aex. You go to Hell and you die.

Thoughts on Smith returning?

[Chg91]

fags.

[Mister3nOut]

What record are you expecting? I got us at 5 or 6 wins.

[Arcade]

What record are you expecting? I got us at 5 or 6 wins.

I'd say anywhere between 4 and 7 (long shot). If I were a betting man, I'd go with six wins.

Honestly I would already be pulling for a tanked season by this point, but I just don't like the draft for us next year at all. Unless we take a QB (god forbid, mother****er...) what other real need can we fill sufficiently in the top 7?

[darum52]

I thought our front 7 would be good, but they are definitely exceeding expectations so far this season. Aldon Smith and Navarro Bowman are both starting to look like ballers, really pumped for the next few seasons.

[Arcade]

Holy ****, this is shaping up to be an insane season.

We ALREADY have as many wins that I thought we would nab the entire season. Aldon Smith looking like a beast (3.5 sacks the past two games), and Alex Smith actually playing the quarterback position. Damn, I'm ****ing thrilled.

[Lucky #12]

Alex Smith has only thrown 2 INT in his last eleven games.

[Arcade]

Alex Smith has only thrown 2 INT in his last eleven games.

I never really saw him as the guy who turned the ball over all the time. That was never his problem. He was simply very inconsistent with his accuracy, and with his decision making.

[darum52]

@AnthonyDavis76 Lions got TeaBaggggggged in thier house lmao.. lol and i saved shwartz life at the end..

[Ninersfan12]

I've been lurking around the site for a while and remembered my password earlier, so I'm back.

Update:

- Re-signed S/ST C.J. Spillman to 3-year/$6M deal

- Re-signed OLB Ahmad Brooks to 6-year/$37M deal(17.5 guaranteed)

- Placed non-exclusive franchise tag on S Dashon Goldson($6.2-$6.44M depending on new salary cap for 2012)

[Arcade]

I've been lurking around the site for a while and remembered my password earlier, so I'm back.

Update:

- Re-signed S/ST C.J. Spillman to 3-year/$6M deal

- Re-signed OLB Ahmad Brooks to 6-year/$37M deal(17.5 guaranteed)

- Placed non-exclusive franchise tag on S Dashon Goldson($6.2-$6.44M depending on new salary cap for 2012)

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Ninersfan12]

Well, it's official. Moss to the 49ers. Not a big fan of the move but it's only 1-year and I assume it's full of incentives, so if he sucks, it'll be easy to cut him. I'm hoping the team can get 1 more WR in FA.

[Arcade]

Well, it's official. Moss to the 49ers. Not a big fan of the move but it's only 1-year and I assume it's full of incentives, so if he sucks, it'll be easy to cut him. I'm hoping the team can get 1 more WR in FA.

That's my biggest (and really only) issue with the deal. I'm really anxious that it will preclude us from drafting a WR early.

[GongKong]

That's my biggest (and really only) issue with the deal. I'm really anxious that it will preclude us from drafting a WR early.

not sure the thought process with the siging. I bet Hardballs had some fun throwing to him during the workout and said,
"Heck, geez, we can just sign this guy and I will replace Smith as the QB. It will be awesome-o rage-a-thon. This must be done. York!!! Bring me the head of an English Mon or Randy Moss."

York, "Yessiry Bob, Mr HardBalls. I will get you this English muffin and a pete moss for you. Yessir. right away."

Hardballs. "wHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, Ima beast **** the whole NFL now!!!! Beast **** their asses!"

[guru_92]

And our team made a fantastically bad pick!! the **** happened really??

[Johnnyallstar]

And our team made a fantastically bad pick!! the **** happened really??

I have to say, when I heard who they drafted I was completely stunned. I figured they were going to go WR, but I have no idea why they chose him.

[GongKong]

I have to say, when I heard who they drafted I was completely stunned. I figured they were going to go WR, but I have no idea why they chose him.

Reminds me of Rams Donnie Avery pick a few years back. He was picked over many higher rated prospects. 2nd round though, but think first WR taken in whole draft.

[Arcade]

LaMichael James might soon become one of my favorite 49ers. I love his running style.