2010 Reader Mock: Buccaneers on the clock with the No. 3 pick

[Walter]

Voting for the No. 3 pick in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Results and some comments will be posted here.


http://walterfootball.com/draft2010reader.php

[Arcade]

First!


Now for a real post:

How can this not Ndamukong Suh? I mean, really next question.

[Colts Homer]

This has to be Suh. There has never been a match so perfect. Two of the top 5 players in this draft were defensive tackles, and the #3 team needs a defensive tackle more than anything else. You don't see a match like that too often. If the Bucs don't take Ndamukong or McCoy, they should be demoted to the UFL.

[Dr.Dre]

Suh.No Discussion needed.

[miamidolphin4life]

Suh. Match made in heavan

[Roddoliver]

The Bucs say thank you to the Lions and take Suh. I only see them taking Gerald McCoy if they hire Mike Mayock as their GM before the draft.

[TeHDruiD]

Suh, no doubt about it. This is a slam dunk

[PeteDahhSneak]

I wonder how many quotes Walter's gonna use for this lol

[garrettcummins]

I personally think that the Bucs will trade this pick to Seattle, Buffalo or Cleveland and Clausen will be selected, but if that doesn't happen then it will be Suh. Tampa is clearly looking for a DT, but they should realize that they can trade back (they would probably want to trade with Seattle at 6) and still get either Suh or McCoy.

[Jar Jar Binx]

They'll take Suh.

3 other options:
1) They may consider McCoy due to his cleaner health record, and maybe since although he's less of a "beast" than Suh, he's a bit more like TB great Sap, with the pass rush oriented game, so they may view him as a better fit.
2) Personnally I think safeties have a bigger positional value than DT. Just look at how Polamalu or Reed can take over game and completely change a defense. How many DTs have such impact? Haynswoth was a game changer for the Titans. And the 3-4 nose tackles are extremely important. But in the 4-3, few DTs are as meaningful. I say Berry's value is greater. But that's just me, and everybody else thinks otherwise (and the franchise tag prices show it), so I guess that's not really an option here.
3) Trade down! If they can find anyone to take the pick from them (Maybe Seattle or the Bills for a QB), they should do it, then possibly even trade down again. There are a lot of good DTs later on (Say Odrick or Price in the lower half of the first round), and TB needs tons of help all over the roster. If they can trade down and eventually get instead of Suh/McCoy a pair of say Morgan and Odrick (with a bit more juggling and trading with the picks they get for the 3rd), then they'll be very happy.

[texanfan194]

Some people have said that Rahim Morris kept his job by winning those 2 games at the end of the season, but if Suh isn't available at #3, he should be fired FOR winning them. There is not a player in this draft that could do anything close to what Suh would do for the Bucs.

[guru_92]

Suh, McCoy or Berry are the options here. (No wait, it's the smart options)

Suh is the better prospect than McCoy in terms of overall ability, and Bucs need someone that can be a force against the run and the pass, which is why they should take Suh. Now if they are worried by his injuires, or just think that they need a truly elite pass rushing 3-technique, they'll go with McCoy. Berry is still in this race cause like i said about the Lions pick, Berry is a once-in-a-decade prospect who really could impact their defense, and if you are facing Matt Ryan and Drew Brees twice a year you definitely need a good backfield. Still, I think that this pick will be Suh, cause they already got a good safety in Tanard Jackson, while they got absolutely nothing at the DT position

[stever]

Yeah, this on is too obvious. It must be Suh or McCoy here, but i think the recent news that McCoy has crohn's disease won't help his draft stock. Suh must be the pick here.

[Chg91]

Gerald McCoy is tailor-made for the Tampa Two which Raheem Morris ran last year; he is the far better penetrator of the two men in terms of technique and upside. While I understand Suh is the "sexy" pick, Gerald McCoy is the best fit for this organization, and for this defense's philosophy.

[JGatt]

While Suh's knees may ruin him like Glenn Dorsey's knees ruined him, I don't see how this pick could be anyone else. Gerald McCoy will probably have a better career, but Suh is the hot topic and a monster to boot. What's really suprising to me is how it's been three months since Suh's dominating performance against Texas and his hype hasnt slowed that much at all. Suh's always been destined for Tampa, even while he was growing up in Podunk, Oregon.

[piazzajordan2]

The Bucs will take Suh. Matt will skip through the streets with a big smile. Lol, but seriously. If he stays healthy, this guy can be one of the top DT's in the league. They gave up 158.2 rushing yards per game. You can score all the touchdowns you want, but if teams are running all over you then you won't win. (See the Colts 02-05)

[Jar Jar Binx]

i think the recent news that McCoy has crohn's disease won't help his draft stock

It's McClain with the Crohn, not McCoy...

[pantherfaninfl]

Raheem Morris is doing back flips if he gets his chance at Suh. Not only can he get Suh by staying put, he even saved his job with those last victories. Who would of thought he could of done both.

[rphx88]

Big Suh has got to be the pick. He fills a glaring need and is the best player available if not the best of the draft. Though I still think either Suh or McCoy will be another Glen Dorsey.

[twl221]

I think this is the best 'Lock' in the draft if the Lions get Okung. Suh it is!

[dorkvomit]

The bucs will probably thank the football gods if Suh falls to them!! It's possible that the first 3 picks go exactly this way!!

[chrispepper]

This is no brainer the bucs are in there perfect situation to draft there main need and it just comes straight up to which defensive tackle the bucs prefer.. In my personal view Suh is the most impressive DT ive seen since Warren Sapp, no doubt mccoy and suh are by far and away the top 2 prospects in the nfl draft but the way Suh flat out dominates the olinemen at the line of scrimmage is incredible..

[piersonjrs]

I say Tampa takes Suh. No secret they need a DT and Suh was a heisman candidate and regarded as the top player in the draft.

[stever]

It's McClain with the Crohn, not McCoy...

Oops, really ? Ouch, my bad.

[SDbucfan]

I think it will be Suh the only thing that worries me about Suh is he has had knee problems, McCoy is also a great option id love to have either one. I dont think Paul is a good pick, definetly not at 3, he is too big of a risk for a team that needs players who can start and be effective immediatley. I like Berry he played under Kiffin and knows our system, wouldnt mind trading down with Seattle and taking him at 6 if Suh and McCoy happen to be gone.

[vikingfan173]

The Buccs get the best player in the Draft at #3, how the **** did they manage that??? well they will be very happy with Suh who sill be their best trench player right away, the defense was horrible through the first half but this D will be much improved in 2010, McCoy is also a possibility.

[EllijayFalconsFan]

The Bucs need DT help and Suh fits the defense better than McCoy. Pretty simple.

[claretnbluelad]

Gerald McCoy

The Glazers, as you all know are in some financial difficulty relating to the ownership of Manchester United. This pick could easily be Suh and probably should be, however a player with a history of injuries will be unappealing and its not like McCoy isn't worthy of being picked at 3.

[xhornetsx]

Suh has to be the pick it he is available. The production against the same talent puts him above McCoy for me. He is big, fast, strong, and smart. Suh has double the sack total as McCoy and demonstrated how he can take over a game in the fourth quarter on a big stage against Texas in the Big XII championship game. The kid instantly makes everyone around him better.

[xhornetsx]

I agree with 3). There are a ton of really good DTs this season.
Problem with 1) Suh is a better pass rusher based on his statistics. I'll be honest, I have not watched tape on McCoy, but Suh is exactly what you said "beast"
Problem with 2) Saftey has more value than DT? You really don't know what Polamalu would do without Casey Hampton at NT. And I would gladly argue that Ed Reed would not be the play maker he is without the studly front seven of the Ravens. Saftey is becoming more and more important though. As we shift more to a passing league (BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!) the safety will have to come down and cover recievers. Eric Berry is the perfect example. Namdi is another one.

P.S. just read the part about 4-3... Moderately agree, but when you can get a guy that can make the other three people on the line better... you take him. Jared Allen, Haynesworth, Sapp did in the day, Pat Williams, and the list goes on.

[FoDaddy]

This was Suh before the College Football season ended and now they don't even need to give up anything to get him. Yahtzee!

[SanchoPanza]

This is an easy pick

[trisoman]

Suh is a soul-eater.

He lives on pain, revelling in the screams of quarterbacks and being sustained by the collapsing of centers and guards who try to stop him.

He smiles at the thought of crushing Matt Moore and raping Matt Ryan.

He is a Buccaneer.

And damn if that doesn't feel good.

[Chg91]

I agree with 3). There are a ton of really good DTs this season.
Problem with 1) Suh is a better pass rusher based on his statistics. I'll be honest, I have not watched tape on McCoy, but Suh is exactly what you said "beast"
Problem with 2) Saftey has more value than DT? You really don't know what Polamalu would do without Casey Hampton at NT. And I would gladly argue that Ed Reed would not be the play maker he is without the studly front seven of the Ravens. Saftey is becoming more and more important though. As we shift more to a passing league (BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!) the safety will have to come down and cover recievers. Eric Berry is the perfect example. Namdi is another one.

P.S. just read the part about 4-3... Moderately agree, but when you can get a guy that can make the other three people on the line better... you take him. Jared Allen, Haynesworth, Sapp did in the day, Pat Williams, and the list goes on.

I can tell you right now that Gerald McCoy is without a doubt the best pass rushing DT in this entire draft. Better than Suh, better than Brian Price. He has size, quickness, and technique to penetrate on every single play if he so chose to. Suh, on the other hand, is much more reliant on his brute, freakish strength, and isn't as polished or well coached in terms of his pass-rushing repertoire.

[PaddyPatriot]

Gerald McCoy is tailor-made for the Tampa Two which Raheem Morris ran last year; he is the far better penetrator of the two men in terms of technique and upside. While I understand Suh is the "sexy" pick, Gerald McCoy is the best fit for this organization, and for this defense's philosophy.

I believe Morris actually ran less Tampa 2 than the previous administrations did. There was definitely talk during the season about Tampa's corner being asked to cover guys 1 on 1 more than they were used to.

[Chg91]

I believe Morris actually ran less Tampa 2 than the previous administrations did. There was definitely talk during the season about Tampa's corner being asked to cover guys 1 on 1 more than they were used to.

I was under the impression that, though they reduced the Tampa 2 stuff initially, it increased the further along in the season they got. Is that wrong?

[KyleCleric]

Suh seems the obvious choice.

[SirA]

I don't actually think Suh will be here and if he isn't then I think Tampa trades this pick to Cleveland for their 1st, DT Shaun Rogers, a 3rd and a 5th. Cleveland then selects Jimmy Clausen ahead of Washington to be the QB of the future. That way Tampa gets a DT and then can select Eric Berry with the 7th pick.

[Nintova]

Best player on the board and a position of need. McCoy is a beast and will be a force.

[PaddyPatriot]

I was under the impression that, though they reduced the Tampa 2 stuff initially, it increased the further along in the season they got. Is that wrong?

I'm not sure I didn't pay a huge amount of attention to the Bucs throughout the season. Any Bucs fans know?

[SCLOBERNOCKER47]

They started the year using Jim Bates 2 gap, 4-3 defence.
It sucked.
Our crew was undersized and just flat out not comfortable in this sceme. About half way through the the year Raheem took over as DC and went back to the Cover2 as the "base package". Dont be fooled though. Its not Monty's Tampa 2. Its base package is similar but Raheem mixes in alot 3-4, as well as a few other fronts and much more blitzing that the Tampa 2 has been known for.

Short answer? Back to Tampa2? Sort of...

[Professor]

no matter who is there, they are taking suh, because bradford or clausen is going #1, and Okung or McCoy is going #2.