2010 Reader Mock: Packers on the clock with the No. 23 pick

[Walter]

Voting for the No. 23 pick in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Results and some comments will be posted here.


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[mcphee2222]

For me it came down to Brown or Kyle Wilson. But with all of NFC North great pass rushing, and how many sacks Rodgers took last year, Brown has to be the pick. They can't let Rodgers, even if he did cause some of them himself, take that type of a beating for another year.

[Stupac]

I'm just gonna list all the pertinent names that will affect this pick, and you can sort the story out yourself: Aaron Rodgers, Chad Clifton, Mark Tauscher, Jared Allen, Julius Peppers, Kyle Vanden Bosch, T.J. Lang, Allen Barbre... Add it all up, and you have the Packers selecting the best OT available. Charles Brown.

[Professor]

The Packers have 2 major question marks in my eyes, CB and Oline. This leaves two options, Kyle Wilson or Charles Brown. Woodson is coming off his best season, but he is 34, Al Harris is 35 and coming off a major injury. On the other hand, they did re-sign Mark Tauscher and Chad Clifton, but they are no spring chickens either. Green Bay was torched by Arizona for 379 yards and 5 TD's in the playoffs, but the Dline's in their division are rough and have gotten rougher with the addition of Julius Peppers to the Bears. It comes down to when you have two positions of need, you take the player that will make a more immediate impact. Wilson is a solid corner but would probably start out in nickel. Charles Brown could play right away. That means that Charles Brown is the pick.

[gbfan]

Kyle Wilson CB/PR here. Ted Thompson takes defesive back and Punt returner at 23 and later moves up in the second round by exchanging 2nd round picks and giving up a 3rd round pick to then accuire Charles Brown with his second pick in the draft, who should be still available in the early part of round two after pulling a hamstring on his pro-day and also being that he is a good fit for only zone blocking teams like Green Bay. Kyle Wilson is too good to pass up here at 23 and should help right away with Green Bays pass defense which got lit-up by Minnesota, Pittsburg and Arizona, especially after Al Harris went down with a knee injury. Tramon Williams is more suited for nickel back role and Kyle Wilson will help right away in the Punt return department and play behind Al Harris, even filling in for him a lot.

[vikingfan173]

The Packers have several needs. They need a future replacement for Charles Woodson/Al Harris, replacements for Tauscher/Clifton, getting more 3-4 personel and getting a long term solution at RB, because Ryan Grant isn't a #1 RB. They have the choice between an elite CB in Kyle Wilson, good rush linebackers in kindle and hughes, plus the #2 RB in this draft in Ryan Matthews. However the biggest need is protecting Aaron Rodgers so the pick will be Charles Brown, Tauscher and Clifton are injury prone and getting worse by the year, getting Brown in place to take over by at least 2011 at LT is the best bet.

[pantherfaninfl]

Packers number one priority is protecting Aaron Rodgers. The packers have enough pass rushers on their team to shield their corner troubles, plus corners are players you want to take in the second round, you don't need an elite shutdown corners, just a guy who isn't a complete imbecile. Unfortunately offensive lineman are a different story. You need very good ones, and I doubt one or better yet both, Mark Tauscher or Chad Clifton hold up through the season. So, packers draft Charles Brown. How many Charlie Brown jokes are going to be cracked on this guy. Whenever he makes a mistake, some genius is going to say "good grief charlie brown", it going to get old quick.

[Vincent_Valour]

Charles Brown is the pick for now; However I have a feeling that this will either be a trade spot or the Packers simply take the highest player on their board. They have the luxury of taking some developmental players in rounds 2-4 mainly offensive tackle and corner to learn from Woodson, Harris, Clifton, etc. Why not let some dumb team like the Browns move back into round 1 to take Tebow or McCoy and the Packers can pocket an extra pick?

[Blazedestin]

First, how has Dan Williams fallen so far in this mock draft? With him on the board, the Packers may contemplate putting him at the nose and moving BJ Raji to DE, where his agility and penetrating ability could be put to better use.

That being said, the Packers couldn't protect Rodgers until they brought back their rapidly aging and deteriorating tackles in Tauscher and Clifton. They need to upgrade their pass protection, and Charles Brown is a perfect fit in the ZBS that the Packers run. Also, Charlie Brown isn't a kicker, so I see no reason why he should bust.

[motorcycle]

Jerry Hughes.

Charles Brown is not good enough to spend a first round pick on and LT isn't as big a need now as half way through last season. The Packers don't draft cornerbacks under 6 foot and can get a good pick in the 2nd or 3rd round. Green Bay has 2 sophomores starting at OLB next year with no depth behind, so OLB is number 1 need in my opinion. The best cornerback in the word can't cover forever if there is no pass rush and Jerry Hughes is good value at 23 in my opinion.

[mcphee2222]

Jerry Hughes.

Charles Brown is not good enough to spend a first round pick on and LT isn't as big a need now as half way through last season. The Packers don't draft cornerbacks under 6 foot and can get a good pick in the 2nd or 3rd round. Green Bay has 2 sophomores starting at OLB next year with no depth behind, so OLB is number 1 need in my opinion. The best cornerback in the word can't cover forever if there is no pass rush and Jerry Hughes is good value at 23 in my opinion.

Ahmad Carrol? I know it's only one corner and it ended up being a bad choice, but this goes to show that if they really like a corner, height won't be an issue.

[Arcade]

Rather Off-Topic: I'm surprised Walt doesn't have backup QB listed on the Packers' list of needs. Matt Flynn is the backup, and with the beating Aaron Rodgers took last year, if Brown isn't the pick, they need to take a 4th-5th round QB to be behind him. Or sign someone. You do not want Flynn starting...

[Hunter]

I like Charles Brown a lot. If he can gain a little weight while maintaining his level of play he could become the best OT in this class IMO.

[PacFaninBearland]

Kyle Wilson. The words and actions of McCarthy and Thompson indicate they are thinking Super Bowl in 2010. The most critical weakness of the 2009 Packers was pass defense against the top passing offenses. The overall statistics obscured this weakness, the total failure to stop the Vikings, Steelers, and Cardinals passing attacks did not. To improve the pass defense in 2010 requires better pass rush and better coverage. Al Harris probably isn't going to be ready to start 2010. Therefore a cornerback who can at least be the nickel in September makes a lot of sense.

[PhoenixRogue]

What the hell is Dan Williams still doing on the board?

[Colts Homer]

Quit voting for Charles Brown you jackasses. The Colts want him.

[Colts Homer]

What the hell is Dan Williams still doing on the board?

In this alternate universe Todd McShay caught him talking to Jimmy Clausen which hurt his character.

[Dusty]

The pick has to be Charles Brown or any other tackle with a first round grade. Brown will probably sit at the beginning of the year and come in around mid season and start, because I do not think Clifton and/or Tauscher will stay healthy all year. If the tackles are gone I hope the pick would be Taylor Mays. I know he has issues in coverage and with his angles, but he would be coming into a secondary where 3 of the members are Pro-Bowlers. He would not be depended upon to be an impact player from day 1, but could start from day 1. Nick Collins also had issues tackling and with his angles but the Packers were able to remedy those issues. I believe if Taylor Mays goes to Green Bay he will learn from three outstanding pro players and will be an excellent choice. However, that is only if the top tackles are off the board.

[Sean McG]

The Packers usually go BPA, but they also use their brains and will opt for a position of bigger need rather than the better prospect. Last year Michael Crabtree, arguably the best prospect in the draft, was on the board, but Green Bay opted to go for B.J. Raji, who was still a top prospect, however he filled a much bigger need for the team. In this situation, you can argue that Kyle Wilson or Dan Williams are better players here, but clearly Charles Brown offers better positional value and is more of an immediate need. Obviously I don't think Dan Williams is in consideration, since they have Pickett locked up as well as Raji, and although Kyle Wilson will definitely be looked at, this years corner class is very deep and the Packers could grab a Perrish Cox, Kareem Jackson, Dominique Franks, etc, with their second round pick. I would be shocked if Charles Brown isn't taken here, especially after getting over the 300 pound mark at the combine.

[giantsfan6017]

Like Walt always says, there are three ingredients to having success in this league. You need a quarterback, you need to protect the quarterback, and you need to get to the quarterback. They have Aaron Rodgers at QB, and Clay Mathews to get to the quarterback. But at LT? They have a 33-year old Chad Clifton who is practically done. Charles Brown is an LT prospect and can start right away. Chad Clifton would now be the backup LT.

[BobLoblaw]

Good grief, Charlie Brown is running away with it.

[packfan22]

Kyle Wilson

The ability to come off the edge and blitz, go on press coverage is unbelivable and can also come in and solve punt returning problems. Maybe not the TT type pick but can play a long time and be the opposite corner to Tramon Williams. This guy is the REAL DEAL.

[Rockmolder]

Let me throw one out there. Golden Tate.

I know, I know. It would most likely mean a trade back, since it would be a bit of a reach, but Thompson does reach on guys if he believes the talent is there. Just look at Collins in the 2nd round from Bethune-Cookman.

Driver's getting up there in age. His productivity was dropping near the end of the season. There are some reports out there that the franchise isn't happy with sliding Jones or Nelson into the starting line-up. Now I know that his skillset might resemble that of Jennings quite a bit, but that's not a bad thing, per sé.

But in reality, I think it'll be OLB. In this scenario, Sergio Kindle. I can't imagine that the franchise is happy going on with Jones as the starter. He loses at the point of attack against RTs time after time. Remember Bigby in 2007? That's who you get if your defense is able to get some pressure. He can free roam a little more. Put him in the box. He can make plays. Getting pressure is what creates a good defense. They resigned Clifton and Tauscher. They might take the gamble and hope that Clifton stays healthy, while Lang will be solid as a back-up, and hope to get as far as they can.

If you look at it like that, OT is settled this year with a bit of luck. The safety position gets better because of the pass rush. DE/OLB has to be the pick. Sergio Kindle.

[TxMayer89]

I believe that even though the Packers have a void to fill in their offensive line, the best choice for the Packers in my opinion would be Jerry Hughes. He would replace Kampmann and help with the Defense. I know that Brown is a more reasonable pick being the troubles the Packers had protecting Rodgers, but they can find a guy like Veldeer or Ducasse in the 2nd round which will help. The Giants did the same thing as they got Will Beatty in the 2nd round, and he is going to be a solid starter this coming year. I know Brown seems like an obvious choice but Hughes could help an already good defense. Remember, Defense wins Titles. Hughes is the guy.

[RazorStar]

Glad to see everyone agrees it's Charles Brown here. Let's move on. :P

But seriously, those tackles are older than mud, and aging by the second. They need to overload the line with some decent talent.

[pkrjones]

Seattle almost took Brown with #14, no way does he last until the Packer's turn in round 2. Must protect Rodgers or the season is lost... Brown it is.

[giantsfan6017]

once again, my comment isn't picked :(

[Arrock]

Do we??? some mock drafts show us having a 5th round draft pick, others dont... anyone know?
I am beginer, but I want to add my opinion

[sewteence]

To get McClaine and Haden Im just not sure McClaine would be there at 18. Therefore the "or" usage, but maybe this isnt a true mock draft but a blueprint of team needs and the best way to get them filled with all those picks.

[Ckane138]

To get McClaine and Haden Im just not sure McClaine would be there at 18. Therefore the "or" usage, but maybe this isnt a true mock draft but a blueprint of team needs and the best way to get them filled with all those picks.

Uhhhhh... wat?