Whom do you support in the 2008 election?

[ysuallthetime]

I myself am a John McCain guy, that is if he makes it to the Ohio primary. If I had to list the best candidates mine would go,
#1 McCain
#2 Romney
#3 Ron Paul
#4 Mike Huckabee
#5 Fred Thompson
#6 Rudy
#7 Edwards
#8 Obama
#9 Clinton

I just want to know where you guys stand?

[Walter]

I want a politician who is trustworthy and doesn't lie. So, in other words, I support no one.

[Adam Mac]

I feel we will not see a female president for many many years from now. Not so sure the south would vote for a woman. I do however think we will see our first black pres Obama will win with his great speeches

[ysuallthetime]

I want a politician who is trustworthy and doesn't lie. So, in other words, I support no one.

I think McCain is as close to an honest politician as were gonna get. Youngstown once had a congresman who was honest and did great things, however the government set him up and he is now in jail

[ysuallthetime]

I feel we will not see a female president for many many years from now. Not so sure the south would vote for a woman. I do however think we will see our first black pres Obama will win with his great speeches

He is a very good speaker, however has done nothing to warrant being a president. I laugh when I see his name as the democrats presidential nomination. He has done nothing. How can someone who has done nothing become president of the most powerful country in the world???

[Walter]

My own sister won't even vote for Hillary because she doesn't want a female president.

[Walter]

I have a feeling Obama is going to win because Oprah is openly backing him. Women will all do whatever Oprah tells them to do.

[ysuallthetime]

Hillary is a female????? Wow you learn something new everyday.

[Matt McGuire]

Until an atheist runs for president, I'm never going to vote.

[ysuallthetime]

Until an atheist runs for president, I'm never going to vote.

The whole reason our country was founded was for us to practice what ever religion we wanted.

[Matt McGuire]

The whole reason our country was founded was for us to practice what ever religion we wanted.

Yes you are right. And an athesit running for president would prevent that how?

[ysuallthetime]

I'm not disagreeing with you. When you say you don't vote because there is no atheist on the ticket is really going against what you believe. Vote for the least religious candidate, not voting does nothing for you.

[NoNonsenseCoach]

I have a feeling Obama is going to win because Oprah is openly backing him. Women will all do whatever Oprah tells them to do.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Men have gods and women have Oprah.

[Matt McGuire]

I think Walter is right. Oprah runs the country.

[NoNonsenseCoach]

I'll be voting for Walter this election if he runs.

[animal52]

I'm voting for Hilary because she favors husbands who cheat on their wives. Imagine THAT freedom. Maybe she'll legislate it:D

[ysuallthetime]

I hope to god Obama or Hillary don't win

[Matt McGuire]

I hope to god Obama or Hillary don't win

I don't think it could ever get any worse than W.

[animal52]

I don't think it could ever get any worse than W.

That's for sure!

[ysuallthetime]

Ummm Bill was one of the worst presidents of all time, just imagine his wife being president.

I voted for Bush 3 1/2 years ago, and I support him now. I don't let the liberal media get to me.

[Matt McGuire]

I think Clinton was one of the best presidents of all time...the economy under him was booming.

In today's world, all the old presidents are "great" and all the new ones are "bad"...its just the media. There is no president in the future that will go down as a
"great" president again.

[ysuallthetime]

Clinton also committed adultery, lied to an entire country, got impeached and invaded a country to try to get himself out of impeachment. The economy was in a recession his final year of office. I'd hardly say it was "Booming". Yea awesome president!

[Walter]

Funny - if you ask a democrat, Bill's one of the best presidents ever. If you ask a republican, he's one of the worst.


No one can deny that Bill was one of the coolest though. Like hanging out with him would be a good time.

[Matt McGuire]

Clinton also committed adultery, lied to an entire country, got impeached and invaded a country to try to get himself out of impeachment. The economy was in a recession his final year of office. I'd hardly say it was "Booming". Yea awesome president!

Committing adultry (which stats say 72% of men do anyways) doesn't have anything to do with how he runs the country and it shouldn't taint how one reviews the work he has done for better or worse.

OMG A POLITICAN LIED!!!1

First of all, they have to lie. If they told the public hte truth about everything then people would panic and are too stupid to understand anything about politics. It is no different than athletes/coaches being politically correct with the media.

The economy being in a recession wasn't his fault, much like I don't blame Bush for being in a recession as a result of 9/11 (unless of course he was behind it as some conspiracy theories state, which I don't believe).

[Matt McGuire]

I mean the American people voted Bush to be President in his first term because they wanted more morals, ethics, and "standards" in America society and they voted in one of the dumbest presidents ever. I mean seriously, I had a higher SAT score than Bush, as do a lot of kids. I should be president (NFL Draft would be a national holiday).

[ysuallthetime]

I agree with you, however most politicians do not get impeached for lieing. And most pepople don't invade a country just to try to get out of impeachment.

[ysuallthetime]

I mean the American people voted Bush to be President in his first term because they wanted more morals, ethics, and "standards" in America society and they voted in one of the dumbest presidents ever. I mean seriously, I had a higher SAT score than Bush, as do a lot of kids. I should be president (NFL Draft would be a national holiday).

WHAT!? What was Bush's SAT? I don't think you can go to an ivy league school with a low one yet alone get good grades at one. Bush was smarter than Kerry, just compare the 2's grades from YALE. I'm not sure what your SAT scores are, but a lot of kids don't have higher SAT scores than an ivy league grad. President Bush is not stupid. I get offended when people say that.

[Matt McGuire]

Bush only got into Yale because of his dad. He got a 1310 on his SAT, which isn't that impressive for a President of the US.

[Mark]

Every single President have been involved with some kind of war, so what Clinton did was not much different then what every President has done before. I'll be a first time voter, and I'm a registered Democrat. I agreed with most of what Bill Richardson had to say, but he just dropped out, so I shall see who sways me the most.

As for Obama, I agree, he has great speeches, and has a great voice for speeches, but he is not going to win my vote by that. I hate to sound like everybody else, but he has not done anything to deserve to be President. Since Virginia has an open primary, I do not have to vote for my political party, so if I decided to vote Republican, it would be McCain. However, of all the democratic nominees, Hillary is the most qualified for the job. I also think America would rather elect a woman, then an African-American. That's just me though.

[ysuallthetime]

Bush only got into Yale because of his dad. He got a 1310 on his SAT, which isn't that impressive for a President of the US.

He still had better grades than Kerry. 1310 is pretty good for a SAT score.

[animal52]

I subscribe to the "one third rule" that is that of all voters one third will vote their party no matter who the candidate is but it's the middle third that determines the winner. I consider myself in that middle third.

Given that, I do not see anybody on the republican side that should be president, except maybe for McCain, but his own people won't nominate him. That leaves us with what's left on the other side.

That means the Clinton/Obama ticket has the best chance right now.

I did not vote for Bill Clinton in 1992, but when he was elected, I said at that time that his wife would make a better president than him. But will the fact that she is somewhat of a cold ***** keep her out? Maybe.

[Flounder87]

I don't like any of the candidates lol. I will exercise my right to vote and pencil in Vince Wilfork.

[ysuallthetime]

I subscribe to the "one third rule" that is that of all voters one third will vote their party no matter who the candidate is but it's the middle third that determines the winner. I consider myself in that middle third.

Given that, I do not see anybody on the republican side that should be president, except maybe for McCain, but his own people won't nominate him. That leaves us with what's left on the other side.

That means the Clinton/Obama ticket has the best chance right now.

I did not vote for Bill Clinton in 1992, but when he was elected, I said at that time that his wife would make a better president than him. But will the fact that she is somewhat of a cold ***** keep her out? Maybe.

What has Obama done to warrant being the president? McCain is the best candidate there is on ethir side. The thing about him is, he is too old, and too honest. McCain is a true American hero. When everyone was playing politics with the war in Iraq and wanted to retreat, McCain was the only one with balls to say stay in there we need to win this war. Since McCain's Iraq plan the war has been as successful as it was in the beginning. Clinton and Obama have no where nead the experience McCain does.

[animal52]

What has Obama done to warrant being the president? McCain is the best candidate there is on ethir side. The thing about him is, he is too old, and too honest. McCain is a true American hero. When everyone was playing politics with the war in Iraq and wanted to retreat, McCain was the only one with balls to say stay in there we need to win this war. Since McCain's Iraq plan the war has been as successful as it was in the beginning. Clinton and Obama have no where nead the experience McCain does.

I'm agreeing with you but not even his own party will nominate him. He can't be the republican nominee. I agree with you about Obama which is why he can only run for Vice President behind Hilary.

But, so many people hate her. That is her obstacle.

[Vbsiena]

I vote for LT when he turns 35. Everyone likes him.

[animal52]

Yeah but does he know how to handle a cigar?

[Matt McGuire]

Mike Mayock 4 Prez.

[animal52]

I'm agreeing with you but not even his own party will nominate him. He can't be the republican nominee. I agree with you about Obama which is why he can only run for Vice President behind Hilary.

But, so many people hate her. That is her obstacle.

I've resurrected this thread to publicly admit to YSU that I was wrong about John McCain and his chances.....and to annoy Matt because I know he hates talking politics.

McCain is really building up a head of steam. Stay tuned.

[Vbsiena]

my roommate says Ron Paul would be the best choice but he isn't popular enough to win and Mike Huckabee is crazy.

[49ersfan]

1. Obama (had been Edwards)
2. Clinton (She's better then any GOP candidate)
1,000. Any republican

[bulldog0123]

He still had better grades than Kerry. 1310 is pretty good for a SAT score.
My brother got a higher act score!
As for who i would vote for if I was old enough it would have to be mike huckabee.
One of my brothers friends came up with this
"Float like Butterfly, Sting like a Huckabee"

[49ersfan]

LOL, that saying is funny. You should tell them to e-mail it to Huckabee. It seems like I'm the only democrat here. Is anyone else a democrat?

[Vbsiena]

I'm a democrat, but you know what I'm more of a moderate with my views.

[49ersfan]

I'm a democrat, but you know what I'm more of a moderate with my views.
Who would/will/did you vote for?

[animal52]

LOL, that saying is funny. You should tell them to e-mail it to Huckabee. It seems like I'm the only democrat here. Is anyone else a democrat?

I vote mostly Democrat, but I'm open depending on the individual. But McCain is so left wing for a Repub that it's hard to really differentiate him from Hilary from an issues standpoint.

[49ersfan]

I hope it's McCain and Obama. That way I won't be pissed if either wins.

[animal52]

Watching politics is a lot like watching Jerry Springer....you know your seeing a bunch of crap but sometimes you can't help paying attention.

[starqb14]

He is a very good speaker, however has done nothing to warrant being a president. I laugh when I see his name as the democrats presidential nomination. He has done nothing. How can someone who has done nothing become president of the most powerful country in the world???

hello? W?

[starqb14]

WHAT!? What was Bush's SAT? I don't think you can go to an ivy league school with a low one yet alone get good grades at one. Bush was smarter than Kerry, just compare the 2's grades from YALE. I'm not sure what your SAT scores are, but a lot of kids don't have higher SAT scores than an ivy league grad. President Bush is not stupid. I get offended when people say that.

grades? come on, what did bush study, underwater basket-weaving? seriously now, the guy is an imbecile.

[49ersfan]

Watching politics is a lot like watching Jerry Springer....you know your seeing a bunch of crap but sometimes you can't help paying attention.
That's so true. But there's no punching, catfights, or slapping.:(

[NoNonsenseCoach]

I want Dan Marino for president. Think about it... everyone likes him, he likes everyone, and he's never disagreed with anyone.

[49ersfan]

But will he ever run? And is he a GOP or a democrat?

[NoNonsenseCoach]

Marino is moderate. Never could make up his mind and didn't want to offend anyone. He likes the democrats, but he likes the republicans too.

[starqb14]

plus he's tall and wears nice ties.

[NoNonsenseCoach]

Any president who can't throw a decent out route or fake spike pass is a president I don't want to be associated with, and I just don't think Hilliary is up to it.

[49ersfan]

This from the guy who doesn't want to be discriminating against bots. I think you've lost all your credibility by now.

[giantsfanmike]

Erm, British National Party?

Oh wait......

[ysuallthetime]

My brother got a higher act score!
As for who i would vote for if I was old enough it would have to be mike huckabee.
One of my brothers friends came up with this
"Float like Butterfly, Sting like a Huckabee"

Looks like your brother is smarter than John Kerry and Ted Kennedy too!

[ysuallthetime]

If John McCain wins president, that will be the best thing for our country.

If Hillary or Obama gets it, GOD HELP US ALL.

I wish it were Edwards vs. McCain, because out of all the dems, Edwards is the only semi non phony out of the dems.

As a republican, I know how much Bush is hated because of the liberal media and what not, but I laugh when I think about Obama or Hillary going up against McCain in a debate. This general election may not even be close with elector votes.

Will a big time democrat on this board please tell me the Democrat party has 2 candidates that are better than Clinton or Obama?

[49ersfan]

The Democrats have Nancy Pelosi, current speaker of the house, as well as Edwards. I'm hoping for Obama/McCain, since I can live with McCain, but not any of the conservative republicans.

[ysuallthetime]

The Democrats have Nancy Pelosi, current speaker of the house, as well as Edwards. I'm hoping for Obama/McCain, since I can live with McCain, but not any of the conservative republicans.

LMAO Nancy Pelosi. :D:D:D:D:D

If these are the names the dems are counting on in years to come I am very thankful that a republican will be in the white house for a while.

The only other big name there is, is Ted Kennedy. No one would ever vote in a murderer in the white house.

Hillary is a joke.

Obama has never done anything to warrant being the leader of the free world.

John Kerry took as many sides on an issue as he could.

Ted Kennedy is a murderer.

A lot of the other bigger dems are too liberal to ever even be taken serious for a presidential nomination. The dem party has to have other candidates or they will not take back the white house in a long time.

[49ersfan]

Even if us dems don't have a good candidate, many people just don't want to vote for a GOP candidate after these last 8 years of Bush.

[ysuallthetime]

Even if us dems don't have a good candidate, many people just don't want to vote for a GOP candidate after these last 8 years of Bush.

Ohh yea! The American way, vote against someone for being in a party with a president they don't agree with. Even when the GOP candidate is 10 times more qualified, there gonna vote for some young kid who has accomplished nothing? There gonna vote for Hillary who shouldn't even be in the Senate? If Bush was as bad as the drive-by (liberal media CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, NY Times) say he is, why did he win re-election?

BTW, the platform that the dems deceived voters on to gain control of the congress and the senate (the economy, the war and gas prices) are still lingering.

Gas prices are outrageous, the economy is in bad shape, and the war is still going on, although better than ever thanks to John McCain. I thought the democrat Congress and Senate was suppose to make things better, not worse! And was suppose to pull us out of Iraq? Maybe it's a 10 year plan.

[starqb14]

Ohh yea! The American way, vote against someone for being in a party with a president they don't agree with. Even when the GOP candidate is 10 times more qualified, there gonna vote for some young kid who has accomplished nothing? There gonna vote for Hillary who shouldn't even be in the Senate? If Bush was as bad as the drive-by (liberal media CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, NY Times) say he is, why did he win re-election?

BTW, the platform that the dems deceived voters on to gain control of the congress and the senate (the economy, the war and gas prices) are still lingering.

Gas prices are outrageous, the economy is in bad shape, and the war is still going on, although better than ever thanks to John McCain. I thought the democrat Congress and Senate was suppose to make things better, not worse! And was suppose to pull us out of Iraq? Maybe it's a 10 year plan.


you speak as though you are very passionate, but fairly ignorant and not very rational. your logic doesn't follow straight, and many of your premises are naive and untrue. this is unfortunate that you are supporting mccain because i think he is a great candidate and an even better man. please don't be so narrowsighted and judgemental.

[49ersfan]

Gas prices are outrageous, the economy is in bad shape, and the war is still going on, although better than ever thanks to John McCain. I thought the democrat Congress and Senate was suppose to make things better, not worse! And was suppose to pull us out of Iraq? Maybe it's a 10 year plan.

And would a republican controlled congress do any better? They tried to fix these issues and failed.

[starqb14]

And would a republican controlled congress do any better? They tried to fix these issues and failed.

obama, mccain, huckabee, and i think ron paul, john edwards was, but these are the candidates that actually focus on the future of america, not the divisional party politics that has devastated progress the last ten years. study some history, not just US, but of all time. party politics runs in vicious cycles of civil distrust and national regression. this election needs to not be about dem v. rep but rather about hope, future, and unity.

[49ersfan]

I agree. Warfare between parties is killling the US.

[starqb14]

it's like a qb fighting with a coach. goddammit if you want to go anywhere put your damn differences aside and work through it like ****ing adults. this is not junior high. arguing and pissing each other off is a sure way to plant yourself in the cellar of productivity. focus on positivism and learning and sharing and communicating.

[ysuallthetime]

And would a republican controlled congress do any better? They tried to fix these issues and failed.

They did a better job, than the Dems are doing now.

[49ersfan]

They did a better job, than the Dems are doing now.
Tell me, which planet are you living on? It's the green and blue one, right?

[ysuallthetime]

Tell me, which planet are you living on? It's the green and blue one, right?

Are you kidding me? The economy is worse since the dems took control, and gas prices are out of control. It wasn't this bad when the republicans were in control of the house and senate. It's ridiculous, no more excuses. THERE IN CONTROL!

[animal52]

Are you kidding me? The economy is worse since the dems took control, and gas prices are out of control. It wasn't this bad when the republicans were in control of the house and senate. It's ridiculous, no more excuses. THERE IN CONTROL!

Well then based on your logic, Bill Clinton was the best president in history. The economy was never better. Now, he will do it again for the next 8 years helping his wife.

Of course, what I just said was only slightly less bs than what you did.