Which team has the WORST WR corps in the NFL?

[wraith36444]

I recently opined on another board that Cleveland had the worst WR corps in the NFL and I received this response:

@David: cleveland does not have the worst WR corps in the league.they have mohammed who had over 600 yards receiving last year with horrible qb play.(and everybody is making a big deal about mike wallace and he had 700 with a elite quarterback)we also have brian robiskie who had a horrible rookie season due to manginis complex system but is making great improvements and is catching the eye of scouts everywhere.we also found a late round gem in carlton mitchell who alot of scouts are comparing to vincent jackson.the point is the browns dont have the best in the league but we dont have the worst.that would belong to the rams who have donnie avery and nothing else.and avery is only a ok reveiver.

So, since it is up for debate, and Walt did the Browns season preview, I will post a poll, who has the worst WR corps in the NFL.

[Arcade]

I think to be the worst, you have to not have any legitimate No. 1. So, that puts the Bills out of the conversation, despite the fact that they have practically nobody outside of Evans.

I'd say either the Rams or the Browns. Probably the Rams.

[evans555]

I think its a toss up between the Rams and Bucs

I think it's the Rams Donnie Avery is far from a top tier #1 WR and outside of Avery there are not many options

[wraith36444]

Laurent Robinson?

[TeHDruiD]

I'd go with the Bucs, but the Browns aren't far behind

[evans555]

Laurent Robinson?

Eh....2 career touchdowns?

[Hunter]

Without Marshall it has to be the Broncos.

[evans555]

Without Marshall it has to be the Broncos.

Ya could be, whats weird is I didn't even think of the Broncos. Man McDainels really screwed their offense, their WR's aren't good

[TeHDruiD]

I see the Bucs as being in the same situation that the Browns were in last year in terms of WR. They're going to be starting 2 rookies, albeit talented rookies, they're going to struggle a bit atleast this year

[miamidolphin4life]

Without Marshall it has to be the Broncos.

I forgot about them. The only reason the Broncos WR's produce any stats is because they run a spread offense. You've got a rookie who has never ran routes to replace one of the best WR's in the game in Brandon Marshall. Jabar Gaffney should never be a starting WR in the NFL, and the only one who is actually decent doesn't even get the ball anymore and is just used as a decoy. So yes, I'd go with the Broncos

[TeHDruiD]

You very well could be looking at the first 4 picks in the 2011 draft right there lol. In no particular order: Bucs, Browns, Rams and Broncos

[Hunter]

I hope the Rams get A.J. Green.

[Blue]

What are you people on? Mohammed Massaquoi is Cleveland's top receiver-and he had 34 catches last year. Cleveland didn't even think Massaquoi was the best receiver they drafted-they selected Brian Robiskie over Massaquoi. Nearly half his yardage came in two games (Week 4 vs. CIN, Week 11 @ DET), and even being Cleveland's top receiver, he had 1 or fewer catches 10 times and didn't reach 50 yards in a game 12 times. And just for further emphasis, he was Cleveland's top receiver.

Cleveland has the worst receiving corps in the league and it isn't even close. Yeah, Mike Wallace "only" had 700 yards with an elite quarterback-as the fourth option in the passing offense. Not really comparable to Massaquoi. I'd take any other receiving group in the league over Cleveland's, with no exception.

[Colts Homer]

Browns. I didn't think it was close.

[wraith36444]

What are you people on? Mohammed Massaquoi is Cleveland's top receiver-and he had 34 catches last year. Cleveland didn't even think Massaquoi was the best receiver they drafted-they selected Brian Robiskie over Massaquoi. Nearly half his yardage came in two games (Week 4 vs. CIN, Week 11 @ DET), and even being Cleveland's top receiver, he had 1 or fewer catches 10 times and didn't reach 50 yards in a game 12 times. And just for further emphasis, he was Cleveland's top receiver.

Cleveland has the worst receiving corps in the league and it isn't even close. Yeah, Mike Wallace "only" had 700 yards with an elite quarterback-as the fourth option in the passing offense. Not really comparable to Massaquoi. I'd take any other receiving group in the league over Cleveland's, with no exception.

Do you think Cleveland's passing attack can be historically bad this year?

[Hunter]

Denver had the benefit of having an exponentially better QB than Cleveland and Brandon Marshall last year.

Cleveland's receivers should be better with a year of NFL experience under their belt. Denver's should play much worse without Brandon Marshall constantly drawing double coverage (and not commanding the attention of other teams number one corners).

[Blue]

Do you think Cleveland's passing attack can be historically bad this year?

To answer that, I'd have to know what "historically bad" would entail. I honestly don't think it could be worse than last year, though. The receivers almost can't be worse, Ben Watson is an upgrade at tight end (despite what Walt says), and Jake Delhomme will get benched at some point for Wallace, who can at least move the chains through the air, even if he doesn't scare anyone. They'll be alright, but we're talking early 2000s Ravens without the suffocating defense.

[TeHDruiD]

For me, and not to sound like a homer, but their are a ton of variables that go into the Browns WR's last year:

1. Jamal Lewis is horrible. He'd take the handoff, do 200 quick steps in the same place and then fall over. With that in mind, teams didn't need to compensate for the run as much and could play more coverage.

2. Brady Quinn threw a checkdown every play cuz he was afraid to making mistakes. WR's would have to clearly be open in order for him to throw the ball as he was afraid to lead his receivers in fear of getting picked off.

3. Derek Anderson, quite the opposite of Brady Quinn, would take the snap, take 3 steps backwards, close his eyes and heave the ball as far as he could in hopes of connecting with one of his guys.

4. Massaquoi had no one opposite of him to take the pressure off of him from the middle of the season on. It didn't matter against the Lions because they had one of the worst secondaries I've ever seen so he was able to create separation without a viable option opposite of him. But his good game against the Bengals came when he had Edwards opposite of him to take the pressure off and that didn't come against scrubs, that came against arguably the best CB tandem in the NFL.

Now I'm not expecting a miraculous turn around, but we have a running game that can keep the defenses honest which should atleast open up some opportunities down the field for these guys as defenses will have to respect the run. While Delhomme sucks, hes an upgrade to what we had believe it or not and should be able to capitalize on the running game success.

Long story short - I think the Browns WR's will look a little better this year because of what I mentioned. Factor in the dynamic that Cribbs brings and how you have to respect him at all times and that too is going to help loosen the defense up a bit which should lead to more plays to our WRs. Everything I'm hearing is how good Robiskie is looking. This time last year they were very down on him and it carried over to the season. Granted it's in shorts and t-shirts so it's hard to take it seriously, but if he progressed that well we'll have viable options at both WR positions

My argument is I expect the Bucs offense to look very similiar to the Browns last year because they're facing similiar circumstances in starting 2 rookies. In logic 2 rookies should get the nod as the worst WR corps in the NFL until they prove otherwise

[Hunter]

I would like to clarify that I think the Broncos have the least talented receiver corp. Tampa Bay will probably have the worst because they are starting two rookies.

[Blue]

My argument is I expect the Bucs offense to look very similiar to the Browns last year because they're facing similiar circumstances in starting 2 rookies. In logic 2 rookies should get the nod as the worst WR corps in the NFL until they prove otherwise

I guess I'm alone in thinking Arrelious Benn and Mike Williams are infinitely more talented than Brian Robiskie and Mohammed Massaquoi.

Eddie Royal/Brandon Stokley/Jabar Gaffney/Demaryius Thomas/Eric Decker isn't horrible. They'd be alright if they had a good quarterback under center. Not great, but workable.

[TeHDruiD]

Nah, I think those 2 guys are talented as well. But to rank them ahead of anyone without them playing a down doesn't make a lot of sense

[wraith36444]

To answer that, I'd have to know what "historically bad" would entail. I honestly don't think it could be worse than last year, though. The receivers almost can't be worse, Ben Watson is an upgrade at tight end (despite what Walt says), and Jake Delhomme will get benched at some point for Wallace, who can at least move the chains through the air, even if he doesn't scare anyone. They'll be alright, but we're talking early 2000s Ravens without the suffocating defense.

Man, I was hoping for an offense to challenge the 1992 Seahawks' futility mark (8.8 pts. per game)

[TeHDruiD]

Man, I was hoping for an offense to challenge the 1992 Seahawks' futility mark (8.8 pts. per game)

The Rams almost did last year with 10.9 pts. per game

[Eagles4Life]

I guess I'm alone in thinking Arrelious Benn and Mike Williams are infinitely more talented than Brian Robiskie and Mohammed Massaquoi.

Eddie Royal/Brandon Stokley/Jabar Gaffney/Demaryius Thomas/Eric Decker isn't horrible. They'd be alright if they had a good quarterback under center. Not great, but workable.

I'm with you 100%.

[wraith36444]

The Rams almost did last year with 10.9 pts. per game

Actually the Raiders came the closest while JaCarcass was starting.

[TeHDruiD]

Browns, Rams and Bucs all are pretty trashy, it's a toss up

[Hunter]

Actually the Raiders came the closest while JaCarcass was starting.

lol that's epic.

[TeHDruiD]

lmao, the Browns finished with a whopping 49.4 completion percentage. Theirs no way it can be any worse than that this year, that's all I know - I knew the QB play was bad, but I didn't know it was THAT bad

^^^ I guess that's what happens when you refuse to pick a QB before training camp and end up splitting all the reps between 2 guys

[Joey_Potter]

I think all of those teams have a lot of potential at Receiver. However I have to go with the Rams due to Donnie Avery dropping everything he touches and Laurent Robinson always being hurt. However if Avery can improve his hands and Robinson can stay healthy they should have a good receiving core set up.

[Descendency]

Bucs. And it's going to get worse before better. Looking at their roster, I see literally 0 number 1s, a couple of crappy rookies, some cast-offs from other teams, and Michael Clayton.

[Dilishurse]

I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned the Chiefs in this debate...outside of an alienated Dwayne Bowe and a fossilized Christ Chambers, who do they have of any worth?

[archon095]

No matter what kind of upside they may or may not have you have to go with the Bucs. When their top two receivers are rookies its unlikely to assume that there will be a lot of production.

Or the Colts

[speedel]

Jaguars are pretty crap too.

St Louis are awful but they will inflate stats by running the spread when they are down buy 10+. this will give the impression that the passing game works (like SF last year). i find it kinda funny that a player that couldn't start even as a 4th receiver on ATL is considered by some to be worthy of drawing a number one corner.....

The Worst atm is the steelers, ward is old, sweed cannot catch and byron ......... wait for it ........ leftwich is the QB for the beginning of the seaon.

[Blue]

Rams have Donnie Avery, Laurent Robinson, Brandon Gibson, and Keenan Burton. None of them are stars, but at least there's some playmaking ability there. Avery can be a great deep threat as long as he's not drawing the top corner, and the rest have shown some flashes. Robinson wasn't the fourth receiver in Atlanta, he was supposed to start every single season and got hurt every single season. He'll get hurt again, but at least he'll perform for a handful of games before then (hopefully).

Tampa's got legit talent at receiver, and Sammie Stroughter was pretty good as a slot guy. Again, they're better prospects than Massaquoi or Robiskie. It's not like rookies have never performed well, either (Michael Clayton, coincidentally, says hello, even if he's sucked since).

Pittsburgh has Mike Wallace, who is also a better player than anybody Cleveland has. Hines Ward is better at 34 than Massaquoi or Robiskie have any right to be expected to be. Sweed shouldn't even be mentioned here, since he's no better than the 4th or 5th receiver even with Santonio Holmes gone.

Chiefs at least have Dwayne Bowe. Chris Chambers would be an upgrade for Cleveland, too.

I simply cannot imagine an argument for any team having a worse receiving corps than Cleveland except maybe if you assume Tampa's rookies completely suck. I don't buy it, but I can at least understand and respect that one. Oakland deserves some mention, but Louis Murphy was better than Cleveland's rookies, and Chaz Schilens has a bright future. I'm actually kind of excited to see if DHB has really improved as much as Oakland's coaching staff says, too; for as big a reach as he was, he was also clearly a better prospect than Massaquoi and Robiskie.

[Berto]

the answer is the browns

[pantherfaninfl]

Hate changing the rules, but you tkae steve smith away from carolina, and they have the worst receiving corps by a mile.

[Centurion]

I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned the Chiefs in this debate...outside of an alienated Dwayne Bowe and a fossilized Christ Chambers, who do they have of any worth?

1. Dwayne Bowe
2. Chris Chambers
3. Dexter McCluster

Those 3, and also if you were to convert Jamaal Charles to a WR, any of the 4 would be the #1 WR on the Browns or the Rams. Bowe would be the #1 on at least 16 of the other 29 teams as well.

[Centurion]

Hate changing the rules, but you tkae steve smith away from carolina, and they have the worst receiving corps by a mile.

They could probably get Bowe for a reduced price if they wanted to. Something like a 2nd and a 4th.

Not saying I want that (Bowe is the only reason Matt Cassel even had a stat line last year), but they could probably do it.

[Centurion]

Breaking down the WR corps. Top 3 WRs on each team, IMO, in no particular order

Tampa Bay: Arrelious Benn, Mike Williams, Sammie Strougther(sp?). Grades: D+, F, D+
Cleveland: Mohammed Massaquoi, Brian Robiskie, Mike Furrey(#3?). Grades: D, F, F
St. Louis: Donnie Avery, Laurent Robinson, Brandon Gibson. Grades: D+, D, F
Chicago: Devin Hester, Johnny Knox, Devin Aromashadu. Grades: C-, D+, C-
Pittsburgh: Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Limas Sweed. Grades: D+, C+, F
Kansas City: Dwayne Bowe, Chris Chambers, Dexter McCluster. Grades: B, D, D
Denver: Eddie Royal, Demaryius Thomas, Brandon Stokley. Grades: C-, D, F
Oakland: Chaz Schillens, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy. Grades: D, D-, C-
Seattle: TJ Houshmanzadeh, Deion Branch, Golden Tate. Grades: C+, D-, D+
Carolina: Steve Smith, Brandon LaFell, Dwayne Jarrett. Grades: B+, D-, F

Overall GPA

Tampa Bay: 0.89
Cleveland: 0.33
St. Louis: 0.78
Chicago: 1.56
Pittsburgh: 1.22
Kansas City: 1.67
Denver: 0.89
Oakland: 1.11
Seattle: 1.44
Carolina: 1.33

There's my 10-worst. I rescind my former vote. Cleveland is the worst.

[Centurion]

A tougher question now is, who has the best?

[TeHDruiD]

Breaking down the WR corps. Top 3 WRs on each team, IMO, in no particular order

Tampa Bay: Arrelious Benn, Mike Williams, Sammie Strougther(sp?). Grades: D+, F, D+
Cleveland: Mohammed Massaquoi, Brian Robiskie, Mike Furrey(#3?). Grades: D, F, F
St. Louis: Donnie Avery, Laurent Robinson, Brandon Gibson. Grades: D+, D, F
Chicago: Devin Hester, Johnny Knox, Devin Aromashadu. Grades: C-, D+, C-
Pittsburgh: Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Limas Sweed. Grades: D+, C+, F
Kansas City: Dwayne Bowe, Chris Chambers, Dexter McCluster. Grades: B, D, D
Denver: Eddie Royal, Demaryius Thomas, Brandon Stokley. Grades: C-, D, F
Oakland: Chaz Schillens, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy. Grades: D, D-, C-
Seattle: TJ Houshmanzadeh, Deion Branch, Golden Tate. Grades: C+, D-, D+
Carolina: Steve Smith, Brandon LaFell, Dwayne Jarrett. Grades: B+, D-, F

Overall GPA

Tampa Bay: 0.89
Cleveland: 0.33
St. Louis: 0.78
Chicago: 1.56
Pittsburgh: 1.22
Kansas City: 1.67
Denver: 0.89
Oakland: 1.11
Seattle: 1.44
Carolina: 1.33

There's my 10-worst. I rescind my former vote. Cleveland is the worst.

#3 for us is Cribbs, not Furrey. But regardless, Cribbs is a D+ at best

[Hunter]

A tougher question now is, who has the best?

The Saints or the Vikings.

I would take the Browns unproven guys with some upside over the Broncos crappy old veterans+Eddie Royal.

[Centurion]

#3 for us is Cribbs, not Furrey. But regardless, Cribbs is a D+ at best

Thanks, drew a blank.

[Roddoliver]

Obviously, the Broncos have the worst WR corps. It is the offseason. Just like the Broncos had the worst quarterback in last year's offseason. Once the season starts, things will get back to normal and the crappy teams like the Rams will show who truly has the worst WR corps and earn another top 5 pick in the draft.

[whatdoyouwant711]

I have to say Rams for now. They have nothing at the tight end position. Donnie Avery isn't a legitimate #1 receiver. And Laurent Robinson can't stay healthy.
But if they taken Green/Jones/Floyd/Baldwin next year, they'll be pretty solid.

[Blue]

Brandon Gibson had as many catches as Mohammed Massaquoi despite being traded from the Eagles in Week 3 and not making a catch until Week 10. To put this in perspective, Gibson had as many receptions in eight games with a team he was traded to in Week 3 than Massaquoi had in a full season with the team that drafted him and installed him as the No. 2 from training camp on. Oh, and Gibson tied for second on the Rams in receptions, unlike Massaquoi, who tied for first with...RB Jerome Harrison. Donnie Avery, for the record, had more catches and more touchdowns than Massaquoi while dealing with Marc Bulger, Kyle Boller, Keith Null, and his own injury problems. If there was one QB situation that was worse than Cleveland's last season, it was Buffalo's. If there were two, they were Buffalo and St. Louis.

Cleveland has the worst receiving corps.

[dannyz]

Terrell Owens is still out there and would atleast help all of teams, A trade for Vincent Jackson would help. The Rams also had Steven Jackson catching passes too.

[BroncosCon]

I'm still laughing at 5 people that actually voted the Broncos. That's five people I wish were in my fantasy football leagues, because they obviously know nothing about football.

[Roddoliver]

By the way, the Broncos waived WRs Landis Williams and Dicky Lions, maybe the Browns will be interested