I'm not only draft expert with Andre' Woodson over Brohm

[Matt McGuire]

Todd McShay from Scouts Inc.:

"This week's slate of college football games provides some intriguing quarterback battles as it relates to the 2008 NFL draft class. It doesn't get any better than the one Lexington, Ky., between Louisville's Brian Brohm and Kentucky's Andre Woodson. As it stands right now, Brohm and Woodson are the top two quarterbacks on my draft board with Woodson receiving the slightly higher grade of the two."

I have said all along that he is the better prospect, I think the next game doesn't necessarilly say who is the better player, but you can't argue with a head/head matchup.

Also, I would like to say that in my next mock draft I am making that Andre' Woodson is my #1 overall pick. I won't say to who or what team or who is going #2. Just a little sneak peek.

[Walter]

Nice. I may change my mind this weekend after watching Louisville-Kentucky.

I'm going to have an update to my mock next week. Right now, I'm working on finishing my 2009 prospects list.

If you're working on a mock right now, let me send you a template which will make my job a lot easier.

[Craig Smith]

I am also going to try and catch this game.

I am also working on my updated mock draft as well.

Although i still got Brohm going first and i don't see that changing. Primarily because of how bad Atlanta looked. (I got Dallas taking MFadden #1 overall from the Cleveland pick). I got Atlanta drafting number 2, and it makes to much sense for Petrino to take Brohm, who already knows his offense and will be ready to go from day one, just needing to adjust to the game speed.

[Matt McGuire]

I am also going to try and catch this game.

I am also working on my updated mock draft as well.

Although i still got Brohm going first and i don't see that changing. Primarily because of how bad Atlanta looked. (I got Dallas taking MFadden #1 overall from the Cleveland pick). I got Atlanta drafting number 2, and it makes to much sense for Petrino to take Brohm, who already knows his offense and will be ready to go from day one, just needing to adjust to the game speed.

Or, you take the best quarterback on the board with the biggest upside with the highest marketing upside in the Atlanta area (and yes, I am playing the race card with Andre' Woodson, but sadly its the main reason that Michael Vick was a fan favorite so I gotta keep it real).

If you don't see Brohm going #1 overall changing you clearly don't learn much from one year to the next.

Alex Smith, Mario Williams, and Jamarcus Russell say hello, Craig.

[Walter]

I'll send templates out to you guys tonight to use for future mock drafts. Using them will allow me to put your mocks up much quicker.

[bills_red]

Todd McGay lol, this guy is funny. Last year he said M.Lynch was the biggest reach last year, lol. He also said his character was very bad.

I don't give 2 $hits$ about what he thinks.

[Mark]

Or, Matt could stop being a homer and acting like he's a "draft expert" because he writes a one round mock draft for walterfootball.com. Especially when he says 4 UK players are first round prospects.

[Matt McGuire]

Or, Matt could stop being a homer and acting like he's a "draft expert" because he writes a one round mock draft for walterfootball.com. Especially when he says 4 UK players are first round prospects.

POTENTIAL first round prospects.

Secondly, I am not a homer. Lots of people think Andre is the best QB in the country.

Thirdly, I am a draft expert. My record speaks for itself. 9 out of first 15 picks right in 2006, 11/15 last year and Brady Quinn NOT in my top 16.
Can't argue with results kid.

Fourthly, I have a 2 round mock.

[Mark]

The day four players from Kentucky go in the first round, will be the day Idaho and Wyoming are the top two teams in the country. I'm sure they are first round potentials because YOU say they are. I'm sure you could do some cutting edge analysis while they play cupcake teams like Eastern Kentucky and Kent State.

I can assure you, YOU ARE NOT A DRAFT EXPERT. Get your head out of your ass. A draft expert who was Brohm going 17th in his NFL draft, Chad Henne going 9th, and Earl Bennett going 11th. You're a joke. I made an accurate NBA Mock Draft, am I an expert? Hell no. Making a mock draft is so simple. Maybe you should commit yourself to something of importance, or at least something worth other peoples time, because you clearly are not.

I'm glad I'm being called a kid by some loser who writes long articles about a football program that hasn't even been relevant in college football for the past decade. I really think you need to go to a therapist or maybe realize that there is more to life then your unhealthy obsession with sports. Maybe you should spend a little more time hitting the books then posting articles people don't give two ****s about. Just my two cents.

[Matt McGuire]

The day four players from Kentucky go in the first round, will be the day Idaho and Wyoming are the top two teams in the country. I'm sure they are first round potentials because YOU say they are. I'm sure you could do some cutting edge analysis while they play cupcake teams like Eastern Kentucky and Kent State.

I can assure you, YOU ARE NOT A DRAFT EXPERT. Get your head out of your ass. A draft expert who was Brohm going 17th in his NFL draft, Chad Henne going 9th, and Earl Bennett going 11th. You're a joke. I made an accurate NBA Mock Draft, am I an expert? Hell no. Making a mock draft is so simple. Maybe you should commit yourself to something of importance, or at least something worth other peoples time, because you clearly are not.

I'm glad I'm being called a kid by some loser who writes long articles about a football program that hasn't even been relevant in college football for the past decade. I really think you need to go to a therapist or maybe realize that there is more to life then your unhealthy obsession with sports. Maybe you should spend a little more time hitting the books then posting articles people don't give two ****s about. Just my two cents.

I guess the day someone had Brady Quinn going in the draft makes them a total idiot right? Yeah, I have no clue what I am talking about. I'm not an expert because I write a mock draft. I am an expert because over the past two years I have made some unpopular predictions turn out to be true. Yes, I make bold predictions, but guess what, thats what the people that truly know the game aren't afraid to do because they have the evidence to support their predictions.

Um, I had Heene going 9th before Michigan's catatrophic fall. In my updated mock he isn't even in my second round.

What your beef with Earl Bennett? Have you ever seen him play? Obviously not.

"I'm sure you do some cutting edge analysis while they play cupcake teams like EKU and Kent State?"

First of all, Kent State is no fluke. They beat a Big XII team that was looking to make some noise in its upcoming season. Obviously, you have never seen Edelman play. The guy is a great college football talent. He has no pro potential, but everybody that has seen him play has to be impressed in some way or another with his scrambling ability.

Oh yeah, go look on Kentucky's schedule and then disrespect this team again. They play some very very good football teams this year. It's a shame people think you have to play a Top 25 team every week or you don't deserve respect.

[Matt McGuire]

Oh yeah, Kentucky never will ever send 4 players to the first round. I have no idea where you got that idea. I clearly said that one of those players isn't elligible until 2009, and another player (Myron Pryor) could go in round 1 this year (highly unlikely) but has a very good shot of going in round 1 in 2009.

Why don't you actually read my posts in their entireity.

[Adam Mac]

I have really never seen Woodson play but he's all I've been hearing about. Can't wait to see this game I hope neither QB disappoints and it's a shootout

[Matt McGuire]

I have really never seen Woodson play but he's all I've been hearing about. Can't wait to see this game I hope neither QB disappoints and it's a shootout

Like I said, don't be surprised if this game is actually a running-fest with a few big passing plays here and there.

My view about this game is that anything can happen, but with Louisville's defense being as bad is it is, and Kentucky's defense have a knack for getting turnovers, you have like Kentucky's chances at home.

[Mark]

I guess the day someone had Brady Quinn going in the draft makes them a total idiot right? Yeah, I have no clue what I am talking about. I'm not an expert because I write a mock draft. I am an expert because over the past two years I have made some unpopular predictions turn out to be true. Yes, I make bold predictions, but guess what, thats what the people that truly know the game aren't afraid to do because they have the evidence to support their predictions.

Um, I had Heene going 9th before Michigan's catatrophic fall. In my updated mock he isn't even in my second round.

What your beef with Earl Bennett? Have you ever seen him play? Obviously not.

"I'm sure you do some cutting edge analysis while they play cupcake teams like EKU and Kent State?"

First of all, Kent State is no fluke. They beat a Big XII team that was looking to make some noise in its upcoming season. Obviously, you have never seen Edelman play. The guy is a great college football talent. He has no pro potential, but everybody that has seen him play has to be impressed in some way or another with his scrambling ability.

Oh yeah, go look on Kentucky's schedule and then disrespect this team again. They play some very very good football teams this year. It's a shame people think you have to play a Top 25 team every week or you don't deserve respect.

No Matt, you're not an expert because you accurately predicted two mock drafts in which you can easily find 100 identical mock drafts just like yours. I guess everybody who can predict the first 10 picks in the draft is like draft god, or at least as you say, an expert.

I have no beef with Earl Bennett. You have him going 11th, which is just plan dumb. I have seen him play, does he deserve to be a top 15 pick? No. He is not even a top 5 WR in this draft class.

Kent State is a joke. A completely irrelevant team, much like Edelman.

Looking at Kentucky' schedule is exactly my point. They have the potential to go 6-6 this season, 8-4 at best. Teams deserve respect when they do something worth while. Not winning the musical bowl, or whatever the hell Kentucky won last year. Wasn't it there first bowl win in like 30 years, or something?

I got that idea because you're running around saying all these scrubs who might not even be drafted by saying there all first round prospects. Sorry Matt, check yourself into a therapist and get off your nut. I wouldn't want to read your piece of **** reviews about a program that has been, as I've said before, completely irrelevant to anything!

[Walter]

Mark, just because you disagree with Matt doesn't mean you should say his reviews are **** or anything, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but you shouldn't put anyone down.

I happen to like Kentucky's chances. They have solid players for the first time in a while.

[Adam Mac]

I don't agree with saying Kentucky will win this Lousville SHOULD win and I think they will prevail but only time will tell...

[Mark]

I'm not trying to be politically correct. Matt is just an air head, with an ego bigger then Kayne West's.

[Matt McGuire]

I'm not trying to be politically correct. Matt is just an air head, with an ego bigger then Kayne West's.

It's only being ****y if you can't back it up.

[Mark]

Yeah I'm sure you back it up with your super accurate mock drafts and your cutting edge analysis on UK players.

[Walter]

What are you guys fighting about? Who cares?

[Matt McGuire]

Yeah I'm sure you back it up with your super accurate mock drafts and your cutting edge analysis on UK players.

I do cutting edge analysis on all players, but I see all the UK games so I know what to expect from that program.

If I went to Texas, then I would know much more about their players.

[Matt McGuire]

BTW Mark, after this game, whoever is wrong about the UK/UL game is going to have his own thread to eat crow in.

UK loses, I'll eat my crow. If UL loses, I hope you eat yours.

If you don't agree to this, then I don't have much respect for you, and I'm calling you out anyways.

[Mark]

Well I don't know what kind of dump you live in, but there are no crows by my house.

[Craig Smith]

Or, you take the best quarterback on the board with the biggest upside with the highest marketing upside in the Atlanta area (and yes, I am playing the race card with Andre' Woodson, but sadly its the main reason that Michael Vick was a fan favorite so I gotta keep it real).

If you don't see Brohm going #1 overall changing you clearly don't learn much from one year to the next.

Alex Smith, Mario Williams, and Jamarcus Russell say hello, Craig.

This makes absolutely no sense to me...

A told you in the post if you read it, that i had McFadden going #1 overall just had Brohm being the first QB taken, and i have yet to see anything on the game to make me change my mind. Woodson just seems to be more of a West Coast offense type QB, dropping it off on short routes and relying on his recievers to turn it into big plays, where Brohm is just more polished.

[Matt McGuire]

This makes absolutely no sense to me...

A told you in the post if you read it, that i had McFadden going #1 overall just had Brohm being the first QB taken, and i have yet to see anything on the game to make me change my mind. Woodson just seems to be more of a West Coast offense type QB, dropping it off on short routes and relying on his recievers to turn it into big plays, where Brohm is just more polished.

Brohm is in a much better-designed offensse. WRs didn't have guys within 6 yards of them.

My stock on Brohm stayed the same. I will say this, he is one of the most uncomfortable QBs when it comes to rolling out of hte pocket and throwing the football. He can't make throws on the run where Andre' Woodson is a much more versatile thrower.

Brohm came out and threw into double coverage twice. Woodson doesn't do this. He doesn't make mistakes. There is a reason he now has the SEC record for passing attempts without an INT. I believe it is now 256 or so. Unbelieveable statistic.

I was really impressed with Brohm don't get me wrong. He showed very good poise when the crowd got loud and he made some big throws. But he also can't create. He can't make plays by himself when receivers aren't open. Great quarterbacks can roll out of the pocket and make throws and create, not necessarilly go Michael Vick on a defense, but Woodson is able to make plays out of nothing.

[Matt McGuire]

Craig, if you don't think Andre' Woodson is now the best QB in the country, then you aren't a very open minded person. You aren't able to be objective.

Brohm played a great game. But Woodson played a better game.

[Craig Smith]

I agree he has potential to be better then Brohm, he has a higher ceiling but Brohm is the better QB.

Yes there is a reason he set a record for most completions without an interception. ITs because he a is a "dink and dunk" QB. IT should be a glaring hole in his game when he completes 30 passes but fails to reach 300 yards passing (and barely averages 6 yards a completion).

And considering that before his last play he had completed 20 passes for only 218 yards before under throwing a 57 yard TD. He just got lucky the coverage was so blown that the receiver stopping to catch the ball didn't prevent it from being a TD. He should have hit him in stride on that one.

But him under throwing it didn't suprise me, he was throwing low on the underneath stuff all day long as well.

Now i am not saying the Woodson is not worthy of his praise, because from what i saw he is. But he needs to work on his accuracy, get his passes up a little. He also needs to open it up and take more chances. He won't win on the next level by throwing the underneath stuff all day long. He may protect the ball well, but there is such a thing as being to safe...

[Matt McGuire]

I agree he has potential to be better then Brohm, he has a higher ceiling but Brohm is the better QB.

Yes there is a reason he set a record for most completions without an interception. ITs because he a is a "dink and dunk" QB. IT should be a glaring hole in his game when he completes 30 passes but fails to reach 300 yards passing (and barely averages 6 yards a completion).

And considering that before his last play he had completed 20 passes for only 218 yards before under throwing a 57 yard TD. He just got lucky the coverage was so blown that the receiver stopping to catch the ball didn't prevent it from being a TD. He should have hit him in stride on that one.

But him under throwing it didn't suprise me, he was throwing low on the underneath stuff all day long as well.

Now i am not saying the Woodson is not worthy of his praise, because from what i saw he is. But he needs to work on his accuracy, get his passes up a little. He also needs to open it up and take more chances. He won't win on the next level by throwing the underneath stuff all day long. He may protect the ball well, but there is such a thing as being to safe...

It's not his fault they throw a lot of underneath routes. Blame the coaches. Andre' Woodson has shown he can throw the ball down teh field.

Why do you say Brohm is better than Woodson? Woodson won this game. He made a big throw when his team needed it the most. Yes, coverage was blown on that game, but it isn't like Brohm is throwing to WRs tightly covered either.

Did you watch that first throw Brohm made? Horrible. Woodson would never make that decision.

And you fail to respond to my comment that Brohm can't make plays at all out of the pocket. If he wants to make plays in the NFL he has to be able to throw on the run. He can't. Please comment on this. Woodson is comfortable throwing on the run and he can get those 6 yard gains when his team needs him to.

I'm not saying Brohm is a bad player. He just isn't an elite prospect.

[Matt McGuire]

Now i am not saying the Woodson is not worthy of his praise, because from what i saw he is. But he needs to work on his accuracy, get his passes up a little. He also needs to open it up and take more chances. He won't win on the next level by throwing the underneath stuff all day long. He may protect the ball well, but there is such a thing as being to safe...

When Woodson misses he misses high. This shows me you don't do a good job of analyzing players and see what is going on. When Brohm misses he throws behind receivers. Both QBs can have shaky accuracy. Both throw amazing deep balls. Both have good arm strength, but Woodson's is slightly better.

Tell me why Brohm is better than Woodson. Just saying "X player is better than X player" is retarded. Justify it.

[Craig Smith]

It's not his fault they throw a lot of underneath routes. Blame the coaches. Andre' Woodson has shown he can throw the ball down teh field.

Why do you say Brohm is better than Woodson? Woodson won this game. He made a big throw when his team needed it the most. Yes, coverage was blown on that game, but it isn't like Brohm is throwing to WRs tightly covered either.

Did you watch that first throw Brohm made? Horrible. Woodson would never make that decision.

And you fail to respond to my comment that Brohm can't make plays at all out of the pocket. If he wants to make plays in the NFL he has to be able to throw on the run. He can't. Please comment on this. Woodson is comfortable throwing on the run and he can get those 6 yard gains when his team needs him to.

I'm not saying Brohm is a bad player. He just isn't an elite prospect.

I think your putting to much faith in a QB's scrambling ability. And i watched Brohm scamble out of the pocket and make a throw on the run at the sideline that went right into is recievers hands, and the reciver dropped as he hit the ground, Brohm didn't look immobile or uncomfortable. Just becasue he prefers to stay in the pocket is not a bad thing.

And even if his movement is poor, you look at the top 3 QB's at the next level, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Carson Palmer. None are scamblers, they like to stay in the pocket and be comfortable and only move if they absolutely have to. Its the same style of game that Brohm plays.

And no i did miss the beginning of the game, but just because he made one bad choice, thats nothing terrible, even Peyton Manning makes bad choices and throws into coverage. The difference is Brohm trusts his arm enough to make that throw, where Woodson will just dump it off...

Playing it safe is also why Kentucky has lost so much with Woodson at the helm and why Louisville has been in the national championship race the past 2 years...

[Matt McGuire]

Playing it safe is also why Kentucky has lost so much with Woodson at the helm and why Louisville has been in the national championship race the past 2 years...

You are a ****ing idiot.

Or:

1. Louisville is in the Big East, not the SEC
2. Louisville has a much more talent football team than UK in past seasons
3. Brian Brohm usually has all day to throw the football. Woodson goes up against some of the best defenses in the country on a weekly basis in the SEC.

You are an idiot to make that statement.

[Matt McGuire]

While Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady are all pocket quarterbacks. they can all step up and around the pocket to get throws off.

Brohm could still very very easily go in the top 10. I am not going to deny that. He has very good poise, a strong arm, and amazing deep ball accuracy.

Think Brohm is still better. From Scouts Inc....I made these statments months ago. Shocker shocker they end up on a professoinal scouting report:

"There's no arguing that Brohm has the mental and physical tools to succeed as a future starting quarterback in the NFL. In our opinion, though; Brohm still has a lot to prove and is a bit overrated due to the protection he gets, the system he has played in and, comparatively speaking, the lower level of DI-A competition he faces."

Debate that Craig.

[Craig Smith]

You are a ****ing idiot.

Or:

1. Louisville is in the Big East, not the SEC
2. Louisville has a much more talent football team than UK in past seasons
3. Brian Brohm usually has all day to throw the football. Woodson goes up against some of the best defenses in the country on a weekly basis in the SEC.

You are an idiot to make that statement.

I will just leave it that, since its pointless in arguing with someone who's main point of trying to convince someone else of their opinion is telling them they a retarded and an idiot.

You still havent proved to me that Woodson is better, the only thing you have proven is that anyone disagreeing with you, infuriates you enough to call them names.

[Craig Smith]

While Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady are all pocket quarterbacks. they can all step up and around the pocket to get throws off.

Brohm could still very very easily go in the top 10. I am not going to deny that. He has very good poise, a strong arm, and amazing deep ball accuracy.

Think Brohm is still better. From Scouts Inc....I made these statments months ago. Shocker shocker they end up on a professoinal scouting report:

"There's no arguing that Brohm has the mental and physical tools to succeed as a future starting quarterback in the NFL. In our opinion, though; Brohm still has a lot to prove and is a bit overrated due to the protection he gets, the system he has played in and, comparatively speaking, the lower level of DI-A competition he faces."

Debate that Craig.

Ok whats to debate, you found one professional report that said Brohm was slightly overrated, i can go out and find ten other professional reports that still say he is number one in the country...

[Matt McGuire]

Then do it.

[Matt McGuire]

Also, you have never said why Brohm is #1 and Woodson is #2. Your opinion is quite irrelevant until you can justify it.

[Matt McGuire]

You still havent proved to me that Woodson is better, the only thing you have proven is that anyone disagreeing with you, infuriates you enough to call them names.

*Woodson has better size than Brohm
*Woodson is more mobile than Brohm and he is more versatile in the passing game
*Woodson has ice in his veins, he is the definition of a leader. I say it all the time, big players make big plays in big games.
*Woodson doesn't make mistakes. Brohm made a few careless throws in lockdown coverage that Woodson would never attempt.
*Woodson plays against much tougher competition than Brohm does...Brohm plays in a high powered/very talented offense against weak Big East defenses.
*257 passes without an INT...ARE YOU KIDDING ME? How many QBs have done that? The kid simply doesn't make mistakes. Scouts are going nuts over this statistic I guarantee you. It is so rare to see a QB with this much talent be so efficient.
*Woodson's athleticism. Idk if you saw the play he made last year at UL. He dropped the snap behind him, picks the ball up and throws a 45yard strike to Keenan Burton. Unbelieveable play. Brohm can't improvise like that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3w3tYoc3A Here is the play at 1:03
*Woodson's upside is huge. Maybe not Jamarcus Russell huge, but Carson Palmer huge. Brohm's lack of athleticism limits his ceiling although he can be a damn good NFL QB if he gets a good enough OL.

[Matt McGuire]

And Craig, it wasn't that you disagreed with me that infuriated me. It was your idiotic statement on why you thought UL's program was better than Kentucky's which was way off.

If I thought u ever knew anything about football, you lost that respect with me. Dumb statement, you clearly don't follow the UK program, so don't talk about something you don't know. Just be quiet.

[bills_red]

http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/08quarterbacks.htm

1. Brian Brohm | Louisville

2. Andre Woodson | Kentucky

[Mark]

I still like Brohm.

[Craig Smith]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2008QB.php

Thats 2 already and i havent even tried...

Better size? he is 1" taller and 4lbs heavier. Thats not really better size.

More Mobile, unless your Michael Vick or Vince Young, it doesnt really matter, Brohm can move when needed and thats all that is required, to deny that is simply showing your own close mindedness that most people here have already seen.

Ice in his veigns. Well Brohm has proven to be a consistant leader that always puts his team in a position to win. That game last night, Woodson didn't win it, it was given to him, with his style of play, if that coverage was not blown he would have ran out of time by the time he gained 7 yards to make it to midfield. And any QB in the nation should have been able to make it, and many would have hit him in stride.

257 passes without a pick thats because he is to safe. Is being safe what made Brett Favre great, or sky rocketed Jay Cutler from being an unknown into a top 15 pick. No it was the ability to not only choose to force throws but be able to complete it in doing so.

3. http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2008/top100.cfm
4. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/rankings.html
5. http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/quarterbacks.htm
6. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/

[Walter]

Brohm and Woodson are 1 and 1a right now. I could argue Woodson over Brohm, just as I can argue Brohm over Woodson. At this very moment, I have Brohm over Woodson, but that could change.

It's likely that Atlanta will be the first team looking for a QB in the 2008 Draft. Does Bobby Petrino take the guy he recruited or someone else?

[Mark]

Not to mention, is Louisville isn't charged with illegal procedure, this is an entirely different game. Brohm was mobile enough to sneak it in for a touchdown.

If Kentucky beats South Carolina, then I'll say Woodson is the best QB. Another good test for Woodson is Arkansas next week, they could defiantly win that one. LSU and Florida will be tough, if he could win at least one of those, or keep it a tight game, I think that should cement that he is the best QB in the nation. However, at this point, just too much football to be played.

[Matt McGuire]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2008QB.php

Thats 2 already and i havent even tried...

Better size? he is 1" taller and 4lbs heavier. Thats not really better size.

More Mobile, unless your Michael Vick or Vince Young, it doesnt really matter, Brohm can move when needed and thats all that is required, to deny that is simply showing your own close mindedness that most people here have already seen.

Ice in his veigns. Well Brohm has proven to be a consistant leader that always puts his team in a position to win. That game last night, Woodson didn't win it, it was given to him, with his style of play, if that coverage was not blown he would have ran out of time by the time he gained 7 yards to make it to midfield. And any QB in the nation should have been able to make it, and many would have hit him in stride.

257 passes without a pick thats because he is to safe. Is being safe what made Brett Favre great, or sky rocketed Jay Cutler from being an unknown into a top 15 pick. No it was the ability to not only choose to force throws but be able to complete it in doing so.

3. http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2008/top100.cfm
4. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/rankings.html
5. http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/quarterbacks.htm
6. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/

None of those are professional websites, not even Scott Wright's NFLDC. Nothing of what you provided comes close to Scouts Inc.

[Matt McGuire]

Brohm and Woodson are 1 and 1a right now. I could argue Woodson over Brohm, just as I can argue Brohm over Woodson. At this very moment, I have Brohm over Woodson, but that could change.

It's likely that Atlanta will be the first team looking for a QB in the 2008 Draft. Does Bobby Petrino take the guy he recruited or someone else?

It's not Bobby Petrino's decision. If it was, Amobi Okoye would be wearing an Atlanta uniform.

[Matt McGuire]

Not to mention, is Louisville isn't charged with illegal procedure, this is an entirely different game. Brohm was mobile enough to sneak it in for a touchdown.

If Kentucky beats South Carolina, then I'll say Woodson is the best QB. Another good test for Woodson is Arkansas next week, they could defiantly win that one. LSU and Florida will be tough, if he could win at least one of those, or keep it a tight game, I think that should cement that he is the best QB in the nation. However, at this point, just too much football to be played.

Your an idiot. What if UK plays horrible defense? What if special teams fux up?

You clearly have no idea how to evaluate talent.

Chris Leak won the national title. He went undrafted. You just got ****ing pwned buddy. Step the **** up!

[Matt McGuire]

Better size? he is 1" taller and 4lbs heavier. Thats not really better size.

More Mobile, unless your Michael Vick or Vince Young, it doesnt really matter, Brohm can move when needed and thats all that is required, to deny that is simply showing your own close mindedness that most people here have already seen.

Ice in his veigns. Well Brohm has proven to be a consistant leader that always puts his team in a position to win. That game last night, Woodson didn't win it, it was given to him, with his style of play, if that coverage was not blown he would have ran out of time by the time he gained 7 yards to make it to midfield. And any QB in the nation should have been able to make it, and many would have hit him in stride.

257 passes without a pick thats because he is to safe. Is being safe what made Brett Favre great, or sky rocketed Jay Cutler from being an unknown into a top 15 pick. No it was the ability to not only choose to force throws but be able to complete it in doing so.

3. http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2008/top100.cfm
4. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/rankings.html
5. http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/quarterbacks.htm
6. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/

1. Woodson has better size. Brohm is more like 6'3 than 6'4. Woodson is therefore 2 inches taller.

2. Idk what the **** you are watching. Brohm never leaves the pocket...very rare occasions and when he does he panics.

3. You still don't say why Brohm is better than Woodson. Please tell me one thing Brohm does better than Woodson. Your so anti-Andre Woodson it isn't funny. IDK what the **** your all's problems are...you can't acknowledge an elite player. There is a reaosn he is the consensus #1 QB in the minds of PROFESSIONAL NFL SCOUTS. Not draft websites which regurgitate everything said by ESPN.

[Mark]

Look at Matt running around good ole Waterfootball.com forums calling everybody who doesn't agree with him an idiot. You really need to get out more. I got pwned, ha, get off world of warcraft and enjoy a classic college party. Do something! Because you obviously don't have much going for you.

[Matt McGuire]

Mark: most insecure person on the internet

[Craig Smith]

It's not Bobby Petrino's decision. If it was, Amobi Okoye would be wearing an Atlanta uniform.

Lol, Matt, you’re a raving freaking lunatic…


Your so angry that everyone doesn’t agree your hometown boy is number one that your blind. Your about the only person on this site that has Woodson #1 right now, and don’t get me wrong, he could very well be by draft time, but even Walter admitted, he still has Brohm #1 by a close margin. So since we all think Woodson is still a first round pick, and easily a top 10 pick and possibly top 5 depending on who drafts there, But we don’t know how to evaluate talent.

The sad part is that you cant admit that they are close enough in talent that people do have a right to consider Brohm to be better. You see that’s the difference between an egomaniac, has you have been called , and an expert. An expert knows that there is room for errors, and respects the opinions of others, while someone like you can’t stand the fact that everyone doesn’t bow to their every word and believe everything you tell them.

Woodson only misses high? Evidentally a blind streak hit you in that game because I saw him be low on many passes, not necessarily miss, but was low, and had his receivers grabbing passes at their knees. Brohm can move and make play, I watched him do it in that game, but you must be in the bathroom when he did it, since according to you he can’t.

If Petrino had his way they would have taken Okoye? Why, was DT a bigger need then DE after the loss of Patrick Kerney? Now your just trying to make things up. The statements wasn’t that he was going to take Brohm just because he is from Louisville, it was because he knew he would be getting a QB with 3 years experience in his offense already, and it’s the teams biggest need and proper draft value for the player.

Truth is I will tell you exactly what I see when I look at the two QB’s.

When I look at Woodson, I see a young, raw version of Donovan McNabb…
When I look at Brohm, I see a lot of Tom Brady in him.

That’s high praise for both.

Your man-crush on Woodson is kind of pathetic and kind of disturbing. And this will be my last response to one of your posts, because its obvious that in your own mind, anyone whose opinion differs from your own is an idiot…

[Mark]

Craig, it isn't even worth discussing anymore. Matt is just a world of warcraft loser. If you don't see eye to eye with him, in his world that means you're an idiot. He's a child.

[Matt McGuire]

Craig, it isn't even worth discussing anymore. Matt is just a world of warcraft loser. If you don't see eye to eye with him, in his world that means you're an idiot. He's a child.

Your responses reflect your (lack of) maturity.

[Matt McGuire]

When I look at Woodson, I see a young, raw version of Donovan McNabb…
When I look at Brohm, I see a lot of Tom Brady in him.

This just speaks of extreme stereotypes when making player comparisons. I hear the McNabb-Woodson comparison a lot but it doesn't fit...well only if you count race.

Woodson doesn't have any elusive mobility to get out of the pocket and make big runs like McNabb and he never will be. Woodson is also more careful with the football than McNabb was.

Woodson is more like Carson Palmer. Both have the same exact size, both have very big arms, both aren't elusive running quarterbacks (like a Vick, Vince Young, or younger McNabb like you say), and both were very polished pocket QBs coming out of college.

To compare any prospect to one of the top 5 QBs of all time in Tom Brady is just ridiculous.

I compare Brian Brohm right now to Eli Manning come out of college. They are very very similiar and with Manning's improvement this season I really see Brohm as the same type of QB.

[Walter]

A lot of media types use that racial QB stereotype comparison. That's why I like Kirk Herbstreit; he compared Troy Smith last year to Drew Brees. Not sure if I completely agree with that, but I liked that thinking outside the box.

[Matt McGuire]

A lot of media types use that racial QB stereotype comparison. That's why I like Kirk Herbstreit; he compared Troy Smith last year to Drew Brees. Not sure if I completely agree with that, but I liked that thinking outside the box.

It is easy to compare white players to white players and black players to black players. I fall into that trap sometimes too just because it is more convenient (sp?).