Heroes

[Walter]

Anyone excited for the premier of Heroes? I can't wait.

[Craig Smith]

Agree, already got a reminder set on my cablel box

[bills_red]

I forgot it was on last year and missed 2 shows and I have yet to see the last like 5 because I want to see them in order.

ps. Hayden Panettiere is hot

[Walter]

You should buy the first season DVD. I got it 2 weeks ago and watched the whole first season again to remember what happened.

And yeah, Claire Bennett is awesome.

[schmidty]

Very excited for Heroes...its a lil annoying that they had to kinda start over again, so it seemed last night....i mean they did have to pick up where they left off, but i wanna see much more action next week...other than that im very pumped up!!!

[Walter]

When the episode ended, I was like WHAT THE HELL! It didn't even seem like an hour. I want more.

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What do you think about the marked photos with each person dying 24 hours later? That was weird. I wonder who that killer was at the end. I don't think Mrs. Petrelli dies though...

I also want to find out about the dude Molly keeps dreaming about and drawing.

[schmidty]

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Ok, Walt you ask some hr8 questions, and i will act as if i am an actual analyst....ok, i agree Mrs Petrelli did not die bc she was not involved in the fall, but we really havent seen what she can do quite yet. The person who killed Hiro's father, hmmmm, could be sylar bc it looked like the hoodie he wore b4 but i doubt that it was him. Its obviously somone he knew, bc he said, "i didnt expect you to be the one". So it could be someone new that we dont know of yet. However it has to be someone that can either fly or teleport or something, bc the killer was not dead or on the ground like Hiro's father.

I think the person Molly is dreaming abt is Sylar, bc he is noy dead yet. The only problem with that is, that would be to obvious. Either way right now, i def think its Sylar, who Molly is dreaming about.

[Walter]

Schmidty, mark your post with "spoilers" if you're going to talk about the plot, because I know a lot of people wait for the DVD to come out, and you don't want to give anything away.

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Molly's not dreaming about Sylar. If you remember in the first season, she found him using her map and push pin. She told Mohinder that she can find anyone except for ONE MAN - because this one man could see her. She refused to tell Parkman who this man was because he was too dangerous, yet she told them where Sylar was in the first season.

From what I hear, we're going to find out how exactly Sylar steals powers this season.

Kaito's killer wasn't Sylar either. It was someone who was in Linderman's special organization (not the mob). There were 12 people in that organization: Linderman, Kaito, Mrs. Petrelli, Charles (Simeone's dying father in Season 1), Peter & Nathan Petrelli's dad, and seven people we have either not met yet or haven't realized yet. Those people formed an organization that planned events like the NY bombing and other things. That's why Kaito told Mrs. Petrelli he "redeemed" himself by helping Hiro. So, Sylar definitely wasn't part of that organization because he came to being a few months before the show. He couldn't have infiltrated their organization in such a short period of time.

It's possible that the man Molly is dreaming about is the same person who is killing members of Linderman's organization.

[schmidty]

Walt
very good information.


SPOOOOIIILLLLEEERSSSS!!!!



Haha, i wonder if Clarie's mom from last season, Misses Fire comes back into play. I say that because having the ability to create fire is def a big deal. Do you think the invisible man has anything to do with the organization? I think so because i cant think of a reason that he would not be, and he is also part of that older GENERATION.

[Walter]

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It's possible that both Claire's real mom and Invisible Man are both part of the organization. The thing about Claire's mom: Remember Mrs. Petrelli said she knew about Claire? Maybe it's through her real mom.

I've been trying to figure out who the other seven members of the organization are, including the killer. The second season's name is Generations, so it's possible they're all parents of the current heroes. We know nothing about Parkman's parents. We don't know anything about Nikki's mom. DL's parents are also unknown. Isaac Mendez's parents?? Hiro's mom??

I can't wait until next week.

[schmidty]

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I def cant wait either for next week. The more i think abt it, the more that i think that 1st episode was just abt the perfect set up as a hot naked girl lying on my bed waiting for me to poke her in the bottocks would equally be a gr8 set up!

Think abt the fact, as i was pointed out, abt HEROES being signed for 5 years. They now have the time and money to go into detail into any character they want to build on or go back into thier past on how they evolved. I think that Hiro's sister will be playing a big role. I also think its a possibility that Claire's new friend, the kid that can flyer, is working for the company Claire's dad used to work for.

[Walter]

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That's a good theory about the kid being a spy for Claire's dad's former company. Maybe he doesn't even go to the school. How did he know she was special, anyway? Good call on your part if you're right.

[schmidty]

Yea thanks but i have another theory about that. it is possible that he just likes her and he was just checking her out and does not know yet that she special powers. Dont forget even if he is working with the compnay, he is sitll young like Claire so he might have emotions that might get the best of him instead of following what the company wants from him. Similar to how Claire was at 1st once she found out who her dad was and so forth.

[schmidty]

Get ready for tonight, for all you HEROES fans. You will either be flipping the remote back and forth like a maniac between the MNF game or recording it some how or another and watching it later. But i have a feeling tonight is going to a big one!!

[Walter]

I'll definitely be recording Chuck, Heroes and Journey Man tonight. Can't wait!

[Walter]

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How freaky was that Mexican girl's eyes? Schmidty, you were right about the brother being able to nullify and actually fix the death that girl brings.

It seems like Mr. Bennet is trying to find seven more of Isaac's paintings. The first was Kaito dying. We can presume the other seven are the other members of the organization dying. Remember, there are eight left. Seven will die. The other is the killer. We still don't know who anyone else is, though I found it odd that Claire's mom knew about Kaito. I watched the scene where Mrs Petrelli was attacked twice. Couldn't see anything.

How funny was Hiro's Battle of 12 Swords? LOL... I can't believe Kensei can heal! WTF is that all about?

[schmidty]

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Walter,
Ok, right, what the hell was that all about with Kensei healing. I have a couple theories but am not sure of course. 1st is that somehow Hiro has somehow gotten the power of healing bc if i remember correctly, Hiro put his hand on Kensei. But, its also possible that maybe Kensei was either has supernatural powers or we just dont know bc it did not reveal enough for that.
Now the girl that has the death black eyes, it seems like the brother absorbs the evil of course, but something is a lil shady abt him. I have a feeling that he knows how to control her but he wont tell her so that he can have control over her. I could be totally wrong abt that tho.

Check this out, remember when Prkman was questioning Mrs. Petrelli and she said they that once were ina relationship. That might be some very interesting news. It's possible that one of the Petrelli boys or even Hiro or his sister might have a diff mother or father. Or, maybe during thier love affair they had a child, who is yet to be named.

[Walter]

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I watched this episode twice (the second time with my family who taped it) and I did notice that Kensei began healing once Hiro put his hand on his chest. That was odd. I can't believe this is natural for Kensei, because according to Mohinder's dad, these mutations began happening recently. Maybe it has to do with the Angela Petrelli-Kaito Nakamura connection. You could be right; maybe she's Hiro's real mom. We've never met Hiro's mom. If that's true, maybe Hiro can absorb powers like Peter, perhaps to a lesser extent, or maybe if he only really needs it.

When watching it the first time, it seemed like the brother absorbed her powers. If that's true, maybe he becomes the killer and she becomes the savior, until the next time he cries black tears. But I don't think that's right... I guess he just stops it. He does seem a bit shady though.

[schmidty]

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Right, we never saw Hiro's mom, great point. But i mean Hiro's sister, did have an ethnic look to her other than the stereo typical asian features. How funny to does Peter's brother look, he looks like such a mess. Actually if the mexicans are going to cross the border than that would mean they're going to be out west or near texas. So we need to think which heroes are out west. the 1st one that comes to mind, is Claire and her family, and now the Haitian. I could be wrong, but it seems like they will have contact with them 1st. Im thinking that something will happen with the Mexicans and it will be on the news and then the Haitian and Claire's dad will get t them 1st before the company will. What do you think?

[schmidty]

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Walter and anyone else of course who watches Heroes, did u notice in a preview they showed some different things with Sylar? It's starting to seem like he is either playing dumb or really doesnt know whats going on? But it seems like he gets off that island and gets back to reality in tonight's episode! In addition it seems like Kensie is a hero, bc Hiro and Kensie were standing together and Hiro says to Kensie, "your hero too".

[Walter]

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It got me thinking... maybe Kensei is the original Hero. Maybe that's why the symbol on his flag and sword appears everywhere and is important.

Sylar may have lost his memory. I don't know, we'll find out soon enough. I can't wait!

[schmidty]

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Ok, so the final paiting is Claire's dad going down. The crazy part is that it seems that Claire is looking at him with her boyfriend to be. That means that her father is part of this organization or so it seems. Also her new BF said the guy chasing him was a guy with the glasses(double rimmed or something), but the guy Mohinder is dealing with, has the same type of glasses.
Sylar didnt lose his memory, he was just really messed up from the sword going thru him and he's still weak as ****. He is prob in the middle of nowhere bc of that organization that Mohinder is supposedly working for.
I think Peter is gonna chill in Ireland a little more and fall in love with that chic. Once he comes back i think he'll have some new powers by running into some new dudes in Ireland. I think he possibly gets reunited with the disapearing guy who showed him the ropes in the 1st place.

[Walter]

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The guy with the horned-rimmed glasses West was referring to was Claire's dad.

Did you see the way Claire looked at her dad at the end? She looked like she hated him. I don't know if she was looking at her dead father or not, but this West dude may cause a rift between them. I don't think she'd ever plot to kill her father though. Maybe West would want to.

I also wonder why Isaac Mendez painted Claire's dad. I was under the impression the eight paintings were of the original members of Linderman's organization. Was Mr. Bennet one of them? Does he have powers we don't know about?

How cool is Sylar!? Some woman threatens to help him, and he's like, "No, I'll just take your powers, thanks!"

I wanted Peter to open that box. Did you see his tattoo fade away into that symbol? That was weird.

[schmidty]

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Well dont forget that guy with the golden touch also had horned rimmed glasses or so it appeared to be. I think a rift will be caused between them from Weest bc Claire will assume that the guy that chased West was her dad.

Mendez if you remember painted a picture of Hiro with a sword fighting a dragon type of mythical creature. i have a feeling as he stays in japan, that creature will come about.

That was funny with Sylar but i wonder where the hell he is and who is the cause of him being there.

The longer Peter stays in Ireland, the more he keeps getting his powers back. That also means once he gets back, he's gonna be crazy, bc he will prob have a btter understanding of his powers. I still think hes going to be absorbing more powers.

[Walter]

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Trust me, man. The horned-rimmed glasses guy is her father. He's the one who was always present when people with powers were abducted, taken to a lab and then reappeared the next few days. It's Mr. bennet.

That mythical creature, the dragon you're referring to, was already in Season 1 when Hiro was in the Museum of History. When he stole the fake sword, he ran into a room with dragon replica figures. That's what the painting was about. I missed it the first time around too.

[schmidty]

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Or so we think Mr. Bennet is the only one that abducted the heroes. We will only know the truth, once West sees him gace to face, trust me! Good call abt the dragon from season 1.

There was something Molly said at the end of the last episode or on the coming attractions abt the boogie man guy. Do you remember what she said, bc it was some type of clue. Myabe something like the boogie man can see me?

I heard this somewhere, but wouldnt that be crazy if Sylar and Peter were brothers thru Peter's father? remeber in season 1 someone said that Peter represents good and Sylar represents evil? I dont know if it was exactly said like that, but there was something along those lines in season 1!

[Walter]

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Just watched Monday's episode against last night. Mr. bennet has horned-rimmed glasses, but the other guy just has regular glasses. Trust me, West was referring to Mr. Bennet.

Molly said "It's the Nightmare Man." Maybe we already know who he is, but we don't realize how evil he is.

I also got to thinking that maybe DL's mom, the one Micah is staying with, could be one of the original Heroes that the Nightmare Man is killing.

I seriously doubt Sylar and Peter are brothers. I think it's more possible than Hiro and Peter are half-brothers. Sylar was raised by his mom, whom he killed and his dad, a watch-maker.

[schmidty]

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Some good points there, but as far as the "nightmare man", we may not have even been introduced to him yet. Nowsomething is DEF up with peter's brother, dont forget what he looked like when he looked in the miror. I'm not syaing he is the nightmare man, or anything which is possible, but something is going to be diff with him i think.

[Walter]

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That'd be a cool twist if Nathan Petrelli were the nightmare man. I'd like that actually. But when he saw himself in the mirror, he saw Peter. He was drunk and feeling sorry that he was responsible for Peter's "death"

[schmidty]

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Yea he's gotta stop acting like a homo, Peter that is. Either way since its called. "Generations", i think its gonna be one of the older people from the Peter's parents age group, or someone related to one of the current Heroes.

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Great episode last night! More action, more information. Excellent!

I loved the whole Nathan/Matt fighting in their dreams thing. THAT WAS SWEET.

[Walter]

That fight really was awesome.

What a crazy power. How do you stop something like that? Parkman got out of it, but it took him a while.

Maybe Maya... if she gets into a nightmare, all she has to do is cry, and Parkman's dad dies.

How did Mohinder show up to New Orleans so quickly? That was really unexpected.

Best episode of the year so far. Poor Bob has to die next :-(

[schmidty]

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I dont think bob is going to die in the next episode, in fact i think hes gonna be there towards the end of the season. He was just introduced this season, and he is in a way a competitor to Claire's dad, which means thats another subplot. In addition Suresh looks like he is siding with Bon for the time being.

[Walter]

Yeah, I don't think Bob will die either. Who's to say he's even next? Don't the people who die receive the pictures? It was just laying in Parkman's Dad's apartment.

[schmidty]

Walter, i was referrinjg to the comment you made about, "poor bob has to die next".


I think in the next episode, Peter will start doing some damage and start remembering things. I think Peter might try to bring his new Gf back to life, by possibly going up to him and touching him!...Not sure abt that one, but i think Peter and his new GF will be on some Bonny & Clyde ****!

[Walter]

Bringing his new Gf back to life? She's dead?

I meant that comment as a joke.

It's a shame Peter couldn't absorb Linderman's powers.

[Walter]

BTW that got me thinking.

We don't know Charles Davoe's powers. But Peter must have absorbed them when he was nursing him. I'm curious to find out what those are.

He must have also absorbed his mother's powers.

That will probably be some sort of surprise later on.

Or do the characters actually have to perform those powers?

[schmidty]

That is a good point, but it seems that is unclear how peter obtains the powers. It seems that it has to be used and then he can obtain it. One reason is that i have not seen Pater use Hiro's powers but i know that they have been in contact plenty of times. Therefore i'm leaning towards the characters have to use thier powers in order for Peter to ontain them,

[Walter]

Peter used Hiro's powers when Mr. Bennet and the Haitian tried to stun him on the rooftop in NYC. He stopped their tranquilizer bullets and flew away with Claude (invisible guy)

[schmidty]

Ok, right, i forgot that Hiro can also freeze time. Actually, speaking of Claude, where the hell is he? I think he will coming back into the picture, especially with that Irish type of accent!

[Walter]

Well, they're leaving Ireland and going to Montreal. I don't know where he is, I'd like to find out.

[candyman82]

What is it that makes this show so great?

[Walter]

You should watch it, or buy the first season on DVD. Trust me, you'll be hooked.

[candyman82]

When is it on?

[schmidty]

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So how abt Mr. Bennet returning to a stone cold killer and taking out the Russian.

It seems that Peter got trapped possibly by Parkman's dad, but either way i dont think it will last long. In addition i think Peter starts to do some damage in the next episode. He keeps gaining more and more confidence especially since he keeps trying something, and then it happens referring to his powers. The one thing that IMO is new abt Peter, is that he has started to develop a mean streak which will enable him to march through the other heroes.

[Walter]

It's on Mondays, 9 pm on NBC

Why do you say Peter got trapped by Parkman's dad? I think he used Hiro's powers and went to the future.

I can't wait to see the battle with Kensei and Hiro. If Hiro has to defeat the now-evil Kensei, he may have to stay in the past to preserve history.

[schmidty]

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Good point Walt about Peter using his powers to travel thru time. The reason i said that was because that piece of paper had Peter's name on it and i think its possible Parkman's dad could have either put it there or was in that place when Peter arrived with the Irish girl.

Hiro will prob be staying in Japan longer, but i think what will happen is he will defeat Kensie and rescue the princess and her father. In addition i think Hiro will explain the future to them and tell them of his powers and they will agree to keep it as if Kensie was the one who saved the father but in reality it was Hiro.