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beastmode
09-22-2008, 07:19 PM
1. St. Louis Rams- Micheal Oher, OT, Ole Miss
Orlando Pace is 34 and Alex Barron sucks. The Rams are ready for an upgrade at the tackle position. Oher is a beast, and this pick is a toal no-brainer.

2. Cinncinnati Bengals- Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
The Bengals pass protection right now is just piss poor awful. It's fairly clear that Levi Jones is not up to the job. Monroe is flying up everybody's draft boards at the moment, and rightfully so. Keep in mind that this is the same UVA that has produced 1st round picks D'Brickashaw Furgeson and Brandon Albert

3. Detroit Lions- George Selvie, DE, USF
The Lions are in desperate need of a defensive lineman after trading away Shaun Rodgers. They also need an elite pass rusher to get to the quarterback. Selvie is a tad undersized, but has great speed and burst, which will help him to get around slower offensive tackles. a cornerback is also a possibility here come April.

4. Miami Dolphins- Micheal Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
Whoever ends up being QB for the Dolphins, they will need a target to throw to. Micheal Crabtree has a rare combination of size, speed, and athleticism. If he can refine his route running, he could be the best WR prospect to come along since Randy Moss, but without the off field baggage.

5. San Francisco 49er's- Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
A bit of a surprise pick here. But look, if a guy that throws only 37 passes in college (Matt Cassel) can get drafted, I don't see why a guy that torches one of the top defences in the country wouldn't get drafted. He has looked great playing so far, and should continue his great play all through the season.

6. Kansas City Cheifs- Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
The Cheifs, much like the 49er's, are desperate for a signal caller. Brodie Croyle has never done anything as a starting QB, and is definately not a long-term answer. While some people hate Tim Tebow for playing in Urban Meyer's spread offense (the same one that Alex Smith played in), He has prototypical size, a great arm, and excellent mobility. Tebow could be the face of the franchise for years to come.

7. Atlanta Falcons- Taylor Mays, FS/SS, USC
This guy is just an absolute beast. At 6-4, 220 he can run a 4.42 40. Add that to the fact that he can play either safety position. The Falcons are barren at safety, and while this pick is a bit of a reach, it also has great value.

8. Baltimore Ravens- Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
A young, homegrown product to go with new signal caller Joe Flacco. All of the other Ravens wideouts are pretty old, so DHB should provide some much needed youth at the position. He also has the ability to run a high 4.2 forty at the combine. This should be an excellent pick for the Ravens, but don't be surprised if the Raiders try to nab him (joke).

9. Oakland Raiders- Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
The Raiders finally do the right thing and get someone to protect JaMarcus Russell's blindside. While the Riaders would love to get Oher, Smith is very good value at this pick. Micheal Crabtree is a strong possibility here if he is still availible, and runs a good 40 time. And don't be surprised if Charlie Weis is hired as the new head coach once Lane Kiffin is fired, Al Davis just loves to get players/coaches coming off of knee injuries.

10. Washington Redskins- Malcolm Jenkins, CB, OSU
This pick is a real steal for the Redskins. There pass defense was just awful against the Giants. Mike Jenkins should be able to step in right away and play across from Carlos Rodgers.

11. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina Panthers)- Ciron Black, OT, LSU
Black started as a true freshman at left tackle for a program that won the national championship. What else could you possibly want? Andy Reid loves lineman, and this is a great value pick because both Jon Runyan and Tra Thomas are over the age of 30.

12. Seattle Seahwaks- Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma
This is a tad early for Robinson, but then again, he is the best guard prospect since Steve Hutchinson. Speaking of Hutchinson, the Seahawks running game has been awful ever since he left, and with this pick they finally find his replacement. This pick could also be running back.

13. Chicago Bears- Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
Matthew Stafford is a reach here, but the Bears are desperate for a quarterback. I am now officially a Matt Stafford hater. I can't understand why people like him so much. He struggles to complete over half of his passes. And please don't give me "he has no targets" crap. Matt Ryan played on a much less talented Boston College team and put up better numbers. It is a proven fact that a completion percentage over 60% leads to success in the NFL, and Stafford isn't anywhere close to 60%. In short, Stafford=Bust

14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
I find it interesting that the Bucs failed to adress the WR position in the last draft. They solve that problem with Harvin. Harvin is a burner with good size and should pair well with Dexter Jackson.

15. Houston Texans- Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St.
Wells falls this far because of the flood of talent into the NFL at the RB position. Wells is an absolute steal here. In the championship game verse LSU's defense he had 20 carries for 146 yards. His only weakness is his recieving ability, but current Texans backs Steve Slaton and Darius Walker can come in on 3rd down. This pick could also be Micheal Johnson

16. Minnesota Vikings- Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
This pick is a reach, but it is really the only pick that makes sense. The Vikings are definately not draftin a QB here. After that there only major need is TE. Enter Pettigrew, the clear #1 TE in this class.He can do it all, and has great size to boot. He should provide a boost to an already strong running game and be able to haul in a few passes from whoever is playing QB.

17. Jacksonville Jaguars- Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
The Jags could use a second elite corner, and they get that here in Davis. This guy is just so extremely physically talented. He is a real steal here, and don't be surprised if he goes higher than this in April.

18. New York Jets- Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
Thmoas Jones is still effective at running back, but is definately over the hill. And Leon Washington doesn't have the size to be an every down back in the NFL. Enter Moreno, who is an absolute at Georgia. Moreno is the kind of back who just refuses to go down, and should bring a physical presense to the Jets backfield.

19. Cleveland Browns- Mike Mickens, CB, Cinncinnati
The Browns are just desperate for a CB at this juncture, and Mickens should be a great fit at this pick. Mickens put on about 15 pounds of muscle in the offseason, eliminating any doubts that he was too small for the NFL. A great pick here for the Browns.

20. San Diego Chargers- James Laurinaitis, MLB, OSU
Laurinaitis is the perfect fit here for the Chargers. James would fit perfectly in a 3-4 where he would take on Guards and stop the run, things he does quite effectively. A good value pick here for the Bolts.

21. Buffalo Bills- Greg Hardy, DE, Ole Miss
The Bills managed only 26 sacks last season. That number is not helped by the age of Aaron Schobel and the ineptness of Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay. Enter Greg Hardy, who will be in able to shine in the SEC this year .

22. Tennessee Titans- Fili Moala, DT, USC
The Titans defense struggled mightily when Albert Haynesworth was out. Moala is poised for a breakout season in USC's talented defense. He should provide a good security policy for Haynesworth should he go down.

23. New Orleans Saints- Brian Cushing, OLB, USC
The Saints add an extremely talented player to their group of linebacker with Cushing. Not only is he very talented, but he also can start from day one at strong or weakside linebacker. Cushing could go much higher than this come April, so this pick could be a steal for the Saints.

24. Arizona Cardinals- Alex Mack, C, California
The Cardinals ahve some needs, but none of them are glaring. That allows them to take the best player availible. That player is Alex Mack, one of the best center propects to come around in a long time. Mack could provide some much needed stability and leadership to the Card's line.

25. New England Patriots- D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
Bill Belichek usually knows what he's doing, but I really have to question the crap he is amasing at CB. Fernando Bryant? You've got to be kidding. Belichek hates drafting corners in the first round, but who else would he draft? Moore is a talented corner who should fit well into the system.

26. Philadelphia Eagles- Myron Rolle, FS/SS, Florida St.
Brian Dawkins is a fan favorite, but has little left in the tank at his age. Enter Myron Rolle. Rolle, the brother of Arizona FS Atrel Rolle is a talented safety who can play both positions. He will likely start out at SS, and then move over to FS when Dawkins retires

27. Green Bay Packers- Darius Butler, CB, UConn
The Packers add some much needed youth and depth behind the aging members of their secondary. Butler should be able to sit for a little while before playing and could easily start out as the nickle back. Butler is also a solid kick returner, making this a great pick for GM Ted Thompson.

28. Denver Broncos- Ray Malauga, MLB, USC
The Broncos are desperate for a MLB to play next to the talented D.J. Williams. Malauga is a real steal here. He is a great athlete with excellent instincts and a tough competitor. This may be the pick of the draft.

29. New York Giants- William Moore, SS/FS, Missouri
The Giants did get Kenny Phillips in this years draft, but they need someone else to play next to him. Enter Moore, who can play either safety position and is an excellent athlete. He plays with the same mean streak and recklessness that made Bob Sanders famous. He and Phillips should combine to make one fo the top young safety combos in the league.

30. Indianapolis Colts- Vince Ohgobaase, DT, Duke
This is a great pick for the Colts here. DT is a rather large need now in the wake of the Ed Johnson release. Ohgobaase is flying up everyone's draft boards at the moment. He is a talented force against the run and just the player the Colts need.

31. Pittsburgh Steelers- Alex Boone, OT, OSU
The Steelers could really use some O-Line depth, and Boone is a perfect fit. He is versatile enough to play either tackle position and could step in right away. That, and he went to Ohio State.

32. Dallas Cowboys- Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
This is a great pick here for the Cowbows. Their WR corps is very thin and Maclin is an extremely talented athlete. He could contribute imediately in the return game and add a new dimension to the Cowboys offense.

bills_red
09-22-2008, 07:24 PM
"The Bills managed only 26 sacks last season. That number is not helped by the age of Aaron Schobel and the ineptness of Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay. Enter Greg Hardy, who will be in able to shine in the SEC this year ."

seems like I read this somewere.........

EDIT
http://nfldraftzone.weebly.com/2009-mock-draft.html

Denney and Kelsay have 2 sacks from the LDE spot over 3 games that is good enough for me. We do need a young DE but we have Ellis to work in this year. It's a need cuz they are over 30 but not over C, maybe OLB and if Lee doesn't come back WR.

EDIT II
If this is you your power rankings are b-a-d imo
http://nfldraftzone.weebly.com/power-rankings.html

Matt McGuire
09-22-2008, 07:26 PM
1. A safety in the top 4?

2. Dolphins keep addressing their offense, despite having one of the worst defenses in the NFL?

3. Why not just say "S" instead of "SS/FS"...are you Walter 2.0?

4. Moreno is way too talented to drop to 18. I know what I have said before about Moreno and Wells falling, but two teams are going to take them in the top 13 based on pure value.

Other than that I really like your mock.

beastmode
09-22-2008, 07:37 PM
1. A safety in the top 4?

LaRon Landry went #6 to the Redskins, I'm not saying Mays is Landry, but it is possible. Plus, who else would the Falcons draft?


2. Dolphins keep addressing their offense, despite having one of the worst defenses in the NFL?

Meh, the only other option here is Selvie, but I don't think and edge rusher is the Phins top priority. Plus, I think Selvie makes a much better 4-3 end than 3-4 LB.


3. Why not just say "S" instead of "SS/FS"...are you Walter 2.0?

"S" just doesn't sound natural to me in sentences the same way that "G" or "C" sound wrong.


4. Moreno is way too talented to drop to 18. I know what I have said before about Moreno and Wells falling, but two teams are going to take them in the top 13 based on pure value.

This is probably true, and the Seahawks pick was a real toss-up. My view on this is that teams think they can get a quality running back in Round 2. This just happens to be the way the Mock falls.


Other than that I really like your mock.


Wow, didn't see that coming. Thanks.

PuppyPuncher
09-22-2008, 07:59 PM
My concerns:
- Taylor Mays will be a top 10 prospect, but he won't go in the top 3. It's ok though since, Atlanta won't be picking there anyways.
-Michael Crabtree isn't anywhere close to the best WR prospect of all time, Calvin Johnson. He doesn't have that 4.3 speed and his route running is definitely limited. Dolphins have to go Selvie. They only have Joey Porter right now as a pass rusher and he's getting older. Kendall Langford and George Selvie would create the ultimate pass rushing duo for the defensive-minded Parcells.
-Tim Tebow is a 4th or 5th round developmental prospect at this point, he will have no concept of conventional NFL offenses and Matt has proven his slow release.
-I like DHB to the Ravens. Just not in the top 10. He's a second round prospect right now, who could possibly sneak into the first round. You're also way off the mark about Ravens having old receivers. Williams and Clayton are 25 and 26.
-Mario Henderson has actually be doing pretty well for the Raiders.
-Guard going that high? I don't think so Tim!
-Bears aren't that desperate for a QB. It's just everyone thinks they are.
-Florida WRs get blackballed.
-Texans will never ever take a RB. They don't even need one with Steve Slaton. Chris Wells isn't a good fit either.
-Alex Boone has a shot at not getting drafted at all now.

Matt McGuire
09-22-2008, 08:33 PM
LaRon Landry went #6 to the Redskins, I'm not saying Mays is Landry, but it is possible. Plus, who else would the Falcons draft?


Yeah I know Landry went #6 and Taylor went #5, but Mays hasn't been consistent yet, and top 3 in this draft is much different. #3 is a much higher pick than #6.

Who else?

Michael Crabtree - Roddy White is good but this offense could use another playmaker

George Selvie - Jamaal Anderson has been a total bust. John Abraham could move from RDE to LDE.

But yeah I see your point. After going over the options I think Mays is a solid pick there.

All this said - I said preseason I ddin't think Atlanta was a 4 or 5 win team. I saw them as a 6 win team, I don't see them having a top 5 pick, which makes this argument pretty much irrelevant...they only need 4 more wins to get to 6, Oakland and St Louis is still on their schedule.

beastmode
09-22-2008, 08:36 PM
My concerns:
[QUOTE=PuppyPuncher;94506]- Taylor Mays will be a top 10 prospect, but he won't go in the top 3. It's ok though since, Atlanta won't be picking there anyways.

Very true.



-Dolphins have to go Selvie. They only have Joey Porter right now as a pass rusher and he's getting older. Kendall Langford and George Selvie would create the ultimate pass rushing duo for the defensive-minded Parcells.

Here's the thing, I'm going to have a hard time projecting a player at a position at which I've never seen him play. For now Selvie is a 4-3 DE because that is the only position I've seen him play.



-I like DHB to the Ravens. Just not in the top 10. He's a second round prospect right now, who could possibly sneak into the first round. You're also way off the mark about Ravens having old receivers. Williams and Clayton are 25 and 26.

Derrick Mason is 34


-Guard going that high? I don't think so Tim!

I saw a mock with Robinson going 4th.



-Bears aren't that desperate for a QB. It's just everyone thinks they are.


Two things could happen here: Lovie Smith still has a job but is on the major hot seat. This leads him to draft the fan/media favorite, which will likely be a QB. Or, Smith could be out of a job, meaning that the new coach would come in and want to draft "his guy". #rd option I suppose is that Kyle Orton plays well, but that isn't likely to happen. I also don't see who else the Bears would draft.

Matt McGuire
09-22-2008, 08:42 PM
[QUOTE=PuppyPuncher;94506]
Here's the thing, I'm going to have a hard time projecting a player at a position at which I've never seen him play. For now Selvie is a 4-3 DE because that is the only position I've seen him play.


Demarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Kamerion Wimbley, Greg Ellis, Vernon Gholston (recent top 6 pick as a DE/OLB), and Anthony Spencer (recent 1st round pick as a de/olb) all played in the 4-3 defense in college.

Selvie has the elite athleticism to play DE/OLB.

beastmode
09-22-2008, 08:48 PM
Okay, I edited the mock, so now the Miami pick makes sense.

Matt McGuire
09-22-2008, 08:59 PM
Okay, I edited the mock, so now the Miami pick makes sense.

That was a cheap move.

beastmode
09-22-2008, 09:01 PM
Cheap, yes. But at the same time it is entirely possible.

regoob2
09-22-2008, 09:49 PM
I was wondering what Matt was talking about with the S in the top 4 but then I saw you edited it. It looks good to me I dont think Andre Smith is the best fit in Oak but I like the Chi pick. I've fell hard off the Matt Stafford band wagon as well but I still think he would be bpa at that point and the majority of the other BPAs arent at a position of need. If Stafford comes out and he's available it would be an easy pick for Chi.

Matt McGuire
09-22-2008, 09:55 PM
I just think it is lame that you would change your draft order to avoid criticism rather than take the criticism.

PuppyPuncher
09-22-2008, 10:48 PM
[QUOTE=beastmode;94599]

Demarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Kamerion Wimbley, Greg Ellis, Vernon Gholston (recent top 6 pick as a DE/OLB), and Anthony Spencer (recent 1st round pick as a de/olb) all played in the 4-3 defense in college.

Selvie has the elite athleticism to play DE/OLB.

Yeah dude, I'm very aware that George Selvie can play OLB. I've seen him stand up in special packages and still come hard after the QB.