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MMONTERO
11-10-2008, 11:52 PM
Alright... here's a mock based on records and power rankings alone. This order assumes that Arizona wins against San Francisco tonight.

1. Detroit Lions - QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
Calvin Johnson will not be able to sleep for excitement after January if Sam Bradford declares for the draft. That's because his Lions will have the first pick and he will finally get a quarterback who can actually throw him the ball. The Lions have yet to test Drew Stanton but reports out of training camp show that he couldn't throw a spiral when he first got to Detroit. That doesn't seem very promising. Daunte Culpepper isn't the future either. Enter Sam Bradford. As only a redshirt sophomore the guy has already thrown for 3,406 yards, 38 touchdowns, and only 6 interceptions. He is easily the best quarterback prospect in college and should translate to the NFL very successfully.

2. Kansas City Chiefs - T Michael Oher, Ole Miss
The Chiefs need a quarterback but there really isn't one worth taking in this spot. Instead, they will nab Oher to replace the struggling Branden Albert. Presumptively, the Chiefs would move Albert to left guard to make way for Oher giving the Chiefs a dominant left side to run Larry Johnson behind. Oher may be the best offensive tackle prospect since Orlando Pace but many have moved Andre Smith and Eugene Monroe above him on their big boards. Don't be fooled. Oher should and will be the first tackle taken in the 2009 NFL Draft.

3. Cincinnati Bengals - DE Brian Orakpo, Texas
We've all heard about Cincinnati's offensive problems and whatnot but their defense is not stopping anyone. Justin Smith may have been an overrated player but he was their best defensive end and his loss has had a negative effect on the Bengals defense as a whole. Brian Orakpo is flying up draft boards and for good reason. He has shown a consistent ability to rush the passer while racking up 8.5 sacks against very good left tackles such as Philip Loadholt of Oklahoma. He should be the pass-rushing force Cincinnati needs on their defensive line.

4. Oakland Raiders - WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
A lot of fuss is made about Al Davis's love of 40 times and for good reason. It often seems like that's all Darth Raider looks at when evaluating draft prospects. But I don't see him passing up Michael Crabtree. Crabtree's 78 receptions for 1,010 yards and a mind-boggling 18 touchdowns are too much to overlook. Those are the kind of numbers that would make a guy like Darth Raider accidentally pick a very good prospect.

5. San Francisco 49ers - QB Matt Stafford, Georgia
First off, most of you know that I hate Matt Stafford and feel he will be a bust. Unfortunately, I have been forced to accept the reality that most people don't agree with me on this. The 49ers are not getting good play from the quarterback position and that needs to change. A new coach will want his own quarterback and I'm afraid Stafford will be that guy. Despite the fact that Georgia wins games because of Knowshon Moreno despite of Matt Stafford, he will likely be a top 10 pick come next April.

6. St. Louis Rams - T Eugene Monroe, Virginia
The Rams need a left tackle to replace the aging Orlando Pace. Eugene Monroe of Virginia is a steal at #6 overall. He has really come on this year and helped the Cavaliers have a decent season, something that seemed highly unlikely just two months ago. He would not be much of a downgrade from Pace in his prime.

7. Seattle Seahawks - RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia
When I said the Seahawks would draft a running back back in September people called me crazy. Why, they asked, when Julius Jones is having such a productive year, would Seattle draft a running back? Why, I asked in response, do you think Jones will continue that elite production over the course of a full season? I'd take a bow but that would seem a little ****y. So I'll just point out that Knowshon Moreno has been having an incredible season and now should easily be considered the best running back prospect in the draft.

8. Cleveland Browns - CB Victor Harris, Virginia Tech
The Browns need better play from their defensive backfield. Victor Harris has established himself as the best corner prospect in this draft by having a much better than expected 2008 campaign. This pick should be a no-brainer for the Browns.

9. Houston Texans - S Taylor Mays, USC
When I watch Taylor Mays play and see his size and athleticism it reminds me of one player - Sean Taylor. The Texans desperately need help on defense, particularly in the secondary, and Taylor Mays is an absolute freak.

10. Jacksonville Jaguars - CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
I now have two corners picked over Vontae Davis who seems to be tops on most draft boards at the position. Why? See Davis only has one interception on the year. His coverage skills are great but turnovers make and break games in the NFL and I feel that interception total should be enough to drop his value significantly. Jenkins is the complete package at corner as he is a solid cover corner with good run skills.

11. San Diego Chargers - ILB Rey Maualuga, USC
Mauluga falls out of the top 10 only because of the lack of demand at his position in the NFL. However, he is a solid top 5 value and a hell of a player. Maualuga seems to be everywhere on the field at once and has the great instincts that call to mind Lawrence Taylor. This guy should be a force to be reckoned with from day 1.

12. New Orleans Saints - S William Moore, Missouri
This pick doesn't need much explaining. Basically, the Saints take the best player available in the secondary and on my board that is William Moore, who has had a solid year on an otherwise mediocre Mizzou D.

13. Green Bay Packers - DE Greg Hardy, Ole Miss
I would like to apologize to everyone I bashed for putting Hardy in the first round of their mock drafts earlier in the year. Hardy has outplayed the likes of George Selvie and Tyson Jackson, both of whom I had as high first-round picks over the summer. The Packers have few needs but their defensive line has been disappointing without Corey Williams, which has exposed a lot of the mediocre defensive linemen in their rotation. Hardy is a solid pass rusher who should help the Packers stop the run in a division with plenty of talented, young, running backs.

14. Indianapolis Colts - DT Vance Walker, Georgia Tech
The Colts' defensive line has been ravaged by dope and plain inconsistency but nowhere more so than at defensive tackle. No one is talking about Vance Walker's exceptional performance on Georgia Tech's defensive line but my money is on the very talented Colts' GM Bill Polian noticing it. Walker should easily be the top defensive tackle taken on draft day.

15. Miami Dolphins - QB Tim Tebow, Florida
Okay, this one takes a lot of explaining but hear me out and then hate. For the record, all hate will be ignored but respected as there are so many factors that could derail this pick. Let's go through why this pick is a possibility that I consider to be a strong one.

1. Chad Pennington will be 33 in 2009.
2. Bill Parcells clearly does not like John Beck and doesn't feel he deserves a chance.
3. The Wildcat formation. This is the key for me. If Miami is really dedicated to the Wildcat formation then Tebow is a scary thought for opposing defenses. Essentially, Tebow would open up the Wildcat formation quite a bit. He would allow for disguised Wildcat-style plays plus he has the athleticism to flank out to wide receiver and actually be a threat unlike Chad Pennington. While I don't think Tebow is a first-round prospect I think a big exception can be made in the case of Miami.

16. Minnesota Vikings - QB Mark Sanchez, USC
I think this pick is a bit of a reach but the Vikings need for a quarterback trumps everything here. They will take the best quarterback available and that is clearly Sanchez at this point.

17. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - T Andre Smith, Alabama
When the Lions traded down and took Gosder Cherilus many of us on Walterfootball.com scratched our heads and wondered why they passed up on Rashard Mendenhall for a player who really projects to be more of a right tackle than a left tackle. Well Cherilus can comfortably play right tackle when Andre Smith comes to town. Andre Smith will protect Sam Bradford's blind side for the foreseeable future.

18. Buffalo Bills - TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State
One of the reasons Oklahoma State has had such a great year is the surprising play of Pettigrew. Robert Royal is by no means an elite tight end and Pettigrew will provide Trent Edwards and elite outlet for when the play starts to break down in addition to another dangerous receiver for opponents to game plan against.

19. Philadelphia Eagles - T Ciron Black, LSU
The Eagles need more help on their interior line as their tackles are only old, not bad but Ciron Black is too good to pass up in this spot.

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - WR Percy Harvin, Florida
The Buccaneers have one decent receiver in Antonio Bryant. Unfortunately, Bryant is more of a possession receiver. Harvin will inject a whole new element into the Buccaneers offense and he's home-grown out of Florida. Harvin has game-breaking skills but needs to prove that he can stay healthy to be a solid first-round prospect.

21. Denver Broncos - ILB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
The Broncos' D is not scaring anyone and they know it. This is really the BPA formula but MLB also happens to be their biggest need on defense.

22. N.Y. Jets - RB Chris Wells, Ohio State
Chris Wells should NOT fall this far in the draft but he does due to a couple factors.

1. lack of demand at the position
2. demanding needs for many teams that would potentially draft him ahead of the Jets

Regardless, the Jets get an absolute steal here.

23. Atlanta Falcons - DT Sen'Derrick Marks, Auburn
Sen'Derrick Marks has shown a lot of ability this season for a slightly undersized defensive tackle. Over the summer no one would have dreamed Atlanta could be picking this high but now it seems very possible and Marks will be a solid addition to an overachieving defense.

24. Chicago Bears - CB Trevard Lindley, Kentucky
The Bears don't really need a corner badly but they should draft one. Reason: Their current group can't seem to stay healthy for a full season. Lindley is one of the more underrated players in this draft class but is a prototypical shutdown-type corner.

25. New England Patriots - CB Vontae Davis, Illinois
The Patriots should take the BPA in their secondary. That player is Vontae Davis and he should improve a Patriots secondary that will have less pressure on it to stop opposing teams next year with the return of Tom Brady.

26. Baltimore Ravens - TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
Todd Heap has been a nonfactor all year and his age is showing. The Ravens need a younger replacement at a position whose importance seems to grow every year. Gresham is the best tight end who hasn't assaulted a cop in this draft class.

27. Arizona Cardinals - G Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
The Cardinals need interior line help and Robinson is a Steve Hutchinson-type guard who should help pave the way for Tim Hightower.

28. Washington Redskins - DE George Selvie, South Florida
The Redskins need secondary help much more than they need defensive line help but there isn't much value here at corner. So they'll pick the underachieving George Selvie from South Florida and hope for the best.

29. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) - S Nic Harris, Oklahoma
Nic Harris doesn't get talked about enough and it's a shame. He's one of the better players in this draft class. I see him sneaking in late in the first round and the Eagles need a replacement for Brian Dawkins.

30. Pittsburgh Steelers - C Alex Mack, California
This is the BPA for the interior offensive line. Ben Roethlisberger is having a solid year so it's scary to think what he could do if he didn't spend 75% of the time on his back with a 300 pound defensive tackle on top of him.

31. Tennessee Titans - WR Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma
I don't see the Titans passing on a receiver again so Iglesias will be the pick. Iglesias has been much more productive than Heyward-Bey has for Maryland and so he gets the edge.

32. New York Giants - OLB Sean Witherspoon, Missouri
Frankly, the Giants don't need much but they could use an outside backer so Kiwanuka can permanently stay in the rotation on the defensive line with the return of Umenyiora next year. Witherspoon has outplayed Cushing and Curry to this point.

Matt McGuire
11-10-2008, 11:55 PM
You do know Miami spent a 2nd round pick on Chad Henne right?

MMONTERO
11-10-2008, 11:59 PM
You do know Miami spent a 2nd round pick on Chad Henne right?

Yes that is one of the factors that could derail this pick but I don't really see Henne ever getting a chance. I see him being a training camp bust. Plus, he was drafted before they started experimenting with the Wildcat.

Matt McGuire
11-11-2008, 12:01 AM
That is the fact that will derail this pick. The same regime doesn't spend a 2nd round pick on a QB then drafts another QB in the first round the next season. The miami defensive backfield and LB corps is too bad to not spend the pick on defense.

PuppyPuncher
11-11-2008, 12:02 AM
Welcome back man.

-1-7 are really solid except I hate the whole let's give up on Brandon Albert.
-Seen enough of Victor Harris to believe he's not a top 10 pick.
-How is it Vontae Davis's fault that no one throws near his side?
-You flat out forgot about Chad Henne. Who Parcells and Sparano like.
-An undersized undertackle won't help out the Falcons who need a nose tackle.
-Don't like the Bears pick. They have a lot of able depth at cornerback and it's the lack of a pass rush that is hurting them.
-Props for not giving the Ravens a WR or CB. But now I'm not so sure with Heap scoring two TDs. Is it really Heap's fault that he is asked to block?
-Selvie isn't an underachiever. He'll have a leg up over several other pass rushers now that he has to deal with double teams.
-I'd recommend switching the Mack and Robinson picks.

MMONTERO
11-11-2008, 12:02 AM
That is the fact that will derail this pick. The same regime doesn't spend a 2nd round pick on a QB then drafts another QB in the first round the next season. The miami defensive backfield and LB corps is too bad to not spend the pick on defense.

Their defense has overperfomed from what I have seen. Regardless, though, I know this is an unrealistic pick but it just seems so plausible somehow. I think Tebow could be downright scary in that scheme. And they wouldn't be drafting him as a pure QB.

PuppyPuncher
11-11-2008, 12:03 AM
Yes that is one of the factors that could derail this pick but I don't really see Henne ever getting a chance. I see him being a training camp bust. Plus, he was drafted before they started experimenting with the Wildcat.

What? He looked great in preseason.

MMONTERO
11-11-2008, 12:17 AM
Welcome back man.

-1-7 are really solid except I hate the whole let's give up on Brandon Albert.
-Seen enough of Victor Harris to believe he's not a top 10 pick.
-How is it Vontae Davis's fault that no one throws near his side?
-You flat out forgot about Chad Henne. Who Parcells and Sparano like.
-An undersized undertackle won't help out the Falcons who need a nose tackle.
-Don't like the Bears pick. They have a lot of able depth at cornerback and it's the lack of a pass rush that is hurting them.
-Props for not giving the Ravens a WR or CB. But now I'm not so sure with Heap scoring two TDs. Is it really Heap's fault that he is asked to block?
-Selvie isn't an underachiever. He'll have a leg up over several other pass rushers now that he has to deal with double teams.
-I'd recommend switching the Mack and Robinson picks.

I've been very impressed with Macho this year and not just because he has displayed incredible ball hawk skills. He is a great leader and leadership goes a long way in the NFL.

Vontae gets thrown to enough to where he should have more than one interception.

I know Henne looked good in preseason but so did Colt Brennan. Henne consistently showed an ability to choke in pressure situations and I'm not convinced he is the answer for Miami but I'm not going to debate the Tebow pick too much as it's a longshot and I know it.

I thought about Terrance Cody as the pick but I'm not convinced he's a first-round prospect.

Like I said, the Bears take a corner because their corners struggle to stay healthy. When healthy, they have no problems there.

Heap is blocking more but he still hasn't shown the same production and ability to separate from linebackers that he used to show. I think he's had one too many injuries and is being asked to block because that is what he is more capable of at this point.

Double teams are a factor but Selvie hasn't really been that productive since the top half of 2007.

I actually thought about swapping those picks but I feel that Robinson is better value than Mack for the Cards.

It's good to be back. I never really left. I've still been looking at the forums but I haven't had as much time to post with school piling up and everything. Missed you guys though.

scar988
11-11-2008, 10:00 AM
bad falcons pick. we need a NT. not another UT.

cutty
11-11-2008, 10:12 AM
Apparently, Branden Albert is playing very well right now. I read an article recently from a KC sportswriter saying they're already starting to wonder if he'll be the next Willie Roaf. So there's no way they'll spend a top 5 pick on an OT, especially with all those QB's on the board.

And no chance at Nic Harris to the Eagles. One, he's gonna be an OLB in the NFL, and two, they wouldn't need a strong safety anyway. Yes, the Eagles need to replace Dawkins - as in someone who can play centerfield and be a playmaker in the passing game. Guys like Derek Pegues or Rashad Johnson would make a lot more sense

regoob2
11-11-2008, 07:47 PM
You cant be serious about the Bears pick.

regoob2
11-11-2008, 07:50 PM
Yes that is one of the factors that could derail this pick but I don't really see Henne ever getting a chance. I see him being a training camp bust. Plus, he was drafted before they started experimenting with the Wildcat.This doesn't make any sense. If it could derail the pick then why make the pick in your mock? Why would they take Henne and never give him a shot. It's not like he was a 6th rounder.

beastmode
11-11-2008, 07:53 PM
Tim Tebow would be absoluely destroyed if he tried to run around in the NFL like he does in college. A Wildcat is different than the Urban Meyer spread. NFL defenses are too strong and fast for it. Also, the Browns play a lot of press-man coverage. While Macho Harris is an excellent CB, he excells more at zone than man, and there are better man coverage corners availible there like Vontae Davis. And how can you say Davis is bad? He shut down "all universe" Jeremy Maclin.

Joey_Potter
11-11-2008, 10:09 PM
Harris to the Browns is a crap pick.

Tebow will be a bust no doubt. He has NOTHING that can translate to the professional game short of a strong arm and that does nothing for anyone. Plus he can't take a snap under Center.

Only two terrible picks I saw.

titan_qb_3
11-11-2008, 10:57 PM
I like the Oher pick but Albert has been doing a pretty decent job at LT. He has only given up 3 sacks

fatphil101
11-15-2008, 11:42 PM
Bad Bengals pick.

We need a LT, no questions asked, first. Orakpo wouldn't be the right player, either. He's a RE, but we just signed Odom & he's not going on the bench. Neither he or Orakpo can play LDE effectively, though.

Smith should be the pick.

MMONTERO
11-16-2008, 03:39 AM
Bad Bengals pick.

We need a LT, no questions asked, first. Orakpo wouldn't be the right player, either. He's a RE, but we just signed Odom & he's not going on the bench. Neither he or Orakpo can play LDE effectively, though.

Smith should be the pick.

Smith is horrible value at #3 overall. If anything it would be Monroe. And Orakpo is being touted as a RE only but I don't buy it. I originally projected him as a 3-4 rush linebacker but I now feel he has the athleticism to play anywhere in the DE - RLB area.

Cicero
11-16-2008, 04:50 AM
As pissed off as I was that Seattle signed Julius Jones and as much as I would love to have Moreno or Wells we just signed two RBs this year and our pass defense is absolutely atrocious. If you think Harris is the best CB on the board then I would move him up to Seattle.

cutty
11-16-2008, 03:31 PM
Smith is horrible value at #3 overall. If anything it would be Monroe. And Orakpo is being touted as a RE only but I don't buy it. I originally projected him as a 3-4 rush linebacker but I now feel he has the athleticism to play anywhere in the DE - RLB area.

Haha, Smith could end up being the first overall pick in the draft. Its pretty ridiculous to annoint Eugene Monroe as a better OT than him at this point

n9necount
11-17-2008, 11:10 AM
MMontero, I think you are way off on the Dolphins pick. Remember that Bill and Ireland are calling the shots, not Dan Henning the OC. Even if you're predicting that Henne will be a bust, that's not what they're predicting obviously. That and Michigan runs a more pro oriented offense than Florida. They'd have to get Bill Parcells completely drunk for him to approve taking Tebow with the #1

n9necount
11-17-2008, 11:15 AM
I'd also be willing to be that the pick will without a doubt be a defensive player. A corner possibly, but more than likely a DL. Parcells and Ireland are all about building the OL and DL first, it's what they know. No way will the pick be a sexy pick. Parcells believes in that small earth theory(or whatever it's called). Basically what that means is he believes there are only a few players on this earth with the right size, speed, agility, and IQ to play the line. That's why Long was the pick and not Ryan, the other Long, or McFadden.

MMONTERO
11-18-2008, 05:33 PM
Yeah like I said, I know the Tebow pick is a longshot. Really I put it in there to see what everyone else would say about it. I still like the idea if Tebow falls a few rounds though. I really think he could make a Wildcat sick.

MMONTERO
11-18-2008, 05:35 PM
Haha, Smith could end up being the first overall pick in the draft. Its pretty ridiculous to annoint Eugene Monroe as a better OT than him at this point

You're using the run protection is not important at left tackle argument and it is total bull****. First off, Smith is not better at pass protecting than Eugene Monroe but that's really not why I don't like Smith. It's no coincidence that most of Coffee's big runs have been to the right side of Alabama's line. Andre Smith doesn't run block well and in a #1 overall pick or even a top 10 pick you expect the complete package.

Dr.Dre
11-18-2008, 05:55 PM
Good Raiders pick.

Crabtree would give JaMarcus a good receiver to help him develop

cutty
11-18-2008, 05:56 PM
You're using the run protection is not important at left tackle argument and it is total bull****. First off, Smith is not better at pass protecting than Eugene Monroe but that's really not why I don't like Smith. It's no coincidence that most of Coffee's big runs have been to the right side of Alabama's line. Andre Smith doesn't run block well and in a #1 overall pick or even a top 10 pick you expect the complete package.

Seriously? Smith is probably the best run-blocker in this draft class. If you're going to question anything, its his pass protection, definately not run blocking

Dr.Dre
11-18-2008, 08:47 PM
Ther is no way Tebow will be a first round pick

beastmode
11-19-2008, 05:42 AM
Ther is no way Tebow will be a first round pick

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