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  • BDL 2016 Bizz Bowl VI: Camden Hood Rats @ Seoul Dragons

    Vote for who you think would win the game.

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    Players that have a (D) next to their name indicate that they are doubtful or unlikely to play. Players with (GTD) are game-time decisions.
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    Camden Hood Rats
    25.00%
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    Seoul Dragons
    75.00%
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  • #2
    Camden Hood Rats

    QB- Drew Brees
    RB- Devonta Freeman
    WR- Odell Beckham Jr
    WR- Mike Evans
    WR- Brandon LaFell
    TE- Brent Celek
    LT- Taylor Decker
    LG- Ronald Leary
    C- Jason Kelce
    RG- T.J. Johnson
    RT- Xavier Su'a-Filo
    _________________
    RB- Darren Sproles
    WR- Anquan Boldin
    WR- Paul Richardson
    WR- Randall Cobb
    TE- Virgil Green


    DE- Chandler Jones
    DT- Akiem Hicks
    DT- Brandon Williams
    DE- Michael Bennett
    LB- Lawrence Timmons
    CB- Aqib Talib
    CB- Logan Ryan
    CB- Vernon Hargreaves
    S- George Iloka
    S- Mike Mitchell
    S- Kevin Byard
    ___________________
    Edge- Yannick Ngakoue
    Edge- Brian Orakpo
    Edge- Dee Ford
    CB- Nolan Carroll
    LB- Jake Ryan
    LB- Anthony Barr
    DL- Grady Jarrett
    DL- David Irving


    Seoul Dragons

    QB Matt Ryan
    RB Jay Ajayi (Q)
    WR TY Hilton
    WR Sammy Watkins
    TE Zach Ertz
    TE Travis Kelce
    LT Donald Penn
    LG Rodger Saffold
    C Matt Paradis
    RG Alex Mack
    RT Ryan Schraeder

    Bench

    RB Spencer Ware (Q)
    RB Isiah Crowell
    WR Tyrell Williams
    WR Victor Cruz
    WR Robert Woods
    TE Dennis Pitta
    T Ronnie Stanley
    G James Carpenter

    RE Nick Perry
    DT Geno Atkins
    DT Gerald McCoy
    LE Melvin Ingram
    LB Jordan Hicks
    LB Ryan Shazier
    CB Darius Slay (Q)
    CB Terence Newman
    Slot CB Ladarius Gunter
    SS Mike Adams
    FS Kurt Coleman

    Bench

    DE Elvis Dumervil
    DE Romeo Okwara
    DT RaShede Hageman
    LB Devon Kennard
    CB Jamar Taylor (Q)
    CB Tracy Porter (Q)
    CB EJ Gaines
    S Dwight Lowery

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    • #3
      Camden

      Offense


      Huge game today for us and Seoul, we've worked all year to get to this point and we're happy to have a chance at a rematch from earlier in the season. It's been a long season and we come into the game heavily depleted on the offensive line, so we'll have to get creative today in order to maximize our chances to win.

      This week for part of our game plan we want to use Seoul's greatest strength against them. That's their defensive line. They are capable of bringing pressure from all 4 spots, as they are all speedy and athletic for their positions. But for what they bring in pass rush skills, they can be lacking in the ability to hold their ground and stop the run, either because they're so aggressive they over pursue the play, or they're undersized and can be engulfed by bigger lineman. So we're going to start this game off run heavy. 1- to put some pressure on their D-line to slow down and not just attack 2- to give our make shift OL a way to get into a rhythm, by leaning on smaller defenders and springing Freeman and Sproles on some good runs.

      We will vary the run game, even though Freeman and Sproles aren't large they're both very capable and versatile players and they'll be a key to getting our offense in a rhythm today. We'll use lots of sweeps and off tackle plays to get my offensive lineman on smaller DE's, with the goal to wear them out. Screens and quick swing passes are also in the plan to negate that line.

      If we can accomplish part 1 of the game plan, then our hurting offensive line should have slightly easier sledding in our pass game because we'll have worn down the Seoul line, and also given them reason to pull back the reigns so they aren't getting beat on run plays/screens anymore. Where we're banged up on the OL, Seoul is banged up in their secondary. Even if their best CB Slay happens to play today, he'll be coming off a bum hamstring. So expect lots of double moves, curls, out and ups and anything else we can do to make Slay have to start and stop and change direction. If he plays we want to test him.

      At this point, with Seoul working towards stopping our running game we want to work on the rest of the secondary like we said we would against Slay. With guys who can make big plays all over the field, ANY time we can get a Seoul DB looking in the backfield for a quick second that could be the break we need. We're going to use play action a ton in conjunction with our running game and we think we can hit some home runs here. Like earlier stated, double moves and pump fakes anything we can do to get them to bite we're going to and Drew Brees will find one of his targets.

      TL ; DR- Run run run early to push Seoul back, capitalize on play action for big plays


      Defense

      Seoul is a tough matchup because they are so well rounded. Good players all over the field. His two best RB's are between the tackle thumpers, so we feel good about our ability to contain them without hatching a special game plan. Our defensive line is very good against the run, and Brandon Williams will start today along side Akiem Hicks to give us roughly 650 + pounds of run stopping in the middle.

      The major key (DJ Khaled reference) in stopping Seoul is containing his perimeter weapons, Travis Kelce included. TY Hilton and Sammy Watkins are versatile players and Seoul likes to run routes at all parts of the field, but they do all their damage on deep plays. So today we'll be bringing out a two deep look to patrol any deep passes those two might break loose on. If we can keep Seoul working other parts of the field we can manage them, taking their explosiveness in the pass game today is how we can win.

      Aqib Talib will get TY Hilton and our corners will be playing press today, getting physical at the line will only help and our safety help over the top in those situations allows us to do this.

      Now, the Travis Kelce factor. When he's in line, he's too athletic for a LB, when he's split out he's too strong for a CB. A few weeks ago the Titans were able to neutralize Kelce by rotating 3 safeties taking turns throughout the game on him at all times, one of them being my very own Kevin Byard. Safeties who can be physical seem like a good match against Kelce, and I have 3 guys who can do that. Like last week, we'll keep our 3 safety look and they'll rotate responsibilities the same way. Two will play deep and one will come down into the box to work against Kelce. This extra safety down to cover the TE should also help in run support against Seoul's power backs.
      We'll keep our usual rotation of pass rushers going to keep the heat on Matt Ryan, Seoul has a good offensive line so if I can keep fresh bodies going against them all day long I should be able to score a few sacks and at the very least beat Ryan up a little bit.

      TL ; DR- Prevent the splash plays from the WR's, contain Kelce with a safety rotation.

      Seoul

      Offense


      After last week almost debacle, we are coming back to our usual balanced offense this week.

      Running game

      Jay Ajayi gets the start in the backfield, but will rotate frequently with Spencer Ware. Depending on the context of the game, Jay Ajayi gets around 55% of the snaps (more if we have to protect a lead with a conservative gameplan), Ware 40% (more if we need to pass the ball more often) and Crowell 5%. Even though the running game might not be very effective early on, we will stick with it as long as we can. Camden has a solid defensive line, but it is not unbeatable and they have really poor linebackers behind them, so we think Ajayi and Ware can break long gains if they get to the second level. We will mostly avoid running at Bennett when he is on the field, except if he is facing Donald Penn, in which case we feel like we have our chances. For around 5 to 10% of the snaps, Ronnie Stanley comes in as a swing tackle to help opening lanes for our backs. Also, Zach Ertz will be mostly split out wide to uncrowd the box since he is not a very good blocker.

      Pass protection

      In the passing game, the first thing we need is to protect Matt Ryan. If we can resist to a formidable rotation of edge rushers, we feel like we will be able to move the ball well through the air. Penn, who allowed only 1 sack all season, will be left on an island all day and we think we can handle Camden interior rush with Paradis occasionally helping on Hicks. On the right side, we will give Schraeder a chance to match up one-on-one versus whoever Camden throws at him. We feel good about him versus Bennett, Ford and Ngakoue. When Orakpo comes in, Schraeder may get an occasional help from the RB or from Mack. When he is on the field, Ajayi is our safety valve in pass protection. Ware and Crowell assignments will rotate depending on the down and the situation of the game. Paradis picks up blitzers coming from the left or inside, the RB picks up those coming from the right (we are not leaving Mack one on one vs an edge defender).

      Passing offense

      Our weapons have a much better matchup that our offensive linemen. Camden has only one player we respect in Aqib Talib. In 2 WR sets, we will avoid targeting him deep, though we might take a shot or two at underneath stuff to keep Hilton or Watkins in the rhythm. On 3 to 5 WR sets, we will move Watkins and Hilton around the formation to get them more favorable matchups. The matchups we are really looking forward to is Kelce and Ertz versus Camden linebackers and safeties. We do not think they can cover them one on one (especially Kelce obviously). If they choose do so, then look for Kelce getting a ton of targets. The most likely counter Camden may find is to drop one of its safeties (or both) in the middle of the field, close to the LoS. If we see that, that means that Logan Ryan may be on individual coverage with no help over the top against Hilton or Watkins, and we will take that matchup. We would also keep targeting our tight ends, but more outside, with corner, or out routes. The receiver covered by Ryan will gets his fair share of targets also. In case Camden chooses to double Kelce and Watkins/Hilton while isolating the other WR with Talib, then we will see if Timmons, Barr, Ryan or Hargreaves can hold on versus Ertz, Ware, Ajayi and Tyrell Williams, because we will try to beat them with those players, and we will not hesitate to throw it deep (except to Ajayi). Finally, if Camden chooses to go zone coverage with its base scheme, expect systematic added protection from Ajayi and, once again, a lot of targets to our tight ends in the seams.

      Formation Versatility

      One last point we want to emphasize is that we will have a bunch of formations out there to involve all our weapons, in a typical Matt Ryan led offense. We already mentioned the 6 linemen formation. 3, 4 and 5 WR sets will look to target Camden CB Depth. We will also show some 3 TE formations and some 2 RB formations to further expose Camden weakness in the middle. One thing we will also do on occasion is have both Kelce and Ertz/Williams outside and Hilton and Watkins in the slots. It would most likely put Talib on Williams (we would avoid him then) or on Kelce where we would have a big size advantage, but more importantly, it would allow us to get nice matchups for Hilton and Watkins. It will also help us recognize the defensive scheme used by Camden to counter Kelce. Finally, we will run some bunch WR sets to help Matt Ryan recognize Camden coverage scheme.

      Tl;dr: balanced offense, protect Ryan, target Camden LBers and safeties with our tight ends and running backs or beat Logan Ryan/Vernon Hargeaves deep.


      Defense

      We will run both man and zone coverage schemes in this game. If Slay is healthy, we will run mostly a man coverage scheme. If he is out or limited, our base defense will be zone. In both coverage schemes we will not necessarily have a slot CB (or two for 4 WR sets). We can also play Ingram at SLB (more often in zone than in man though), Mike Adams as a hybrid SS/LB (with Lowery replacing him downfield) or Kennard in a classic 4-3 alignment, in which case, in man, we will have Hicks on Cobb.

      Man Coverage

      In the scenario Slay is active, we will test him early with one-on-one matchups vs Mike Evans. If he is healthy it should be a good battle. If he is not, it might be a bloodbath so we would most likely switch back to a zone coverage scheme. Opposite to Slay starts Newman, who will get ODB. In the Vikes/Giants this year, when lined up versus ODB, Newman had success. We will hope he can repeat that performance with help over the top from Kurt Coleman, making his grand return to the starting lineup. Ladarius Gunter (Tracy Porter if out) gets the slot. Mike Adams plays in the box to help versus the running game and plays zone in the middle to help versus Randall Cobb, LaFell or ODB underneath. Taylor gets LaFell when he plays. Porter (or EJ Gaines) is our 5th corner. Hicks is in charge of the RB, whether it is Freeman or Sproles, and Shazier gets a good matchup versus Celek or Virgil Green. When Camden has two RBs on the field, then we will match up Adams with Sproles and Hicks with Freeman, Shazier dropping back in zone middle.

      Zone Coverage

      We will also have a bunch of zone coverage concepts for this game. The degree of usage will depend of the degree of injuries in my secondary. One scheme we particularly like versus Camden is the Tampa 2 defense. With Hicks, we have the perfect MLB for this scheme and Shazier is a decent WLB for it also. With no TE to worry about, bodies in the box to stop the run (we would usually have a hybrid SS/LB or Ingram/Kennard in at LB) and the deep threats of Evans and ODB eliminated, they will have to rely a lot of underneath stuff to Cobb and LaFell to move the ball, and, even though they may very well do it, we think it is our best chance. We will also run other zone coverage schemes, from cover 2 to cover 6, to keep the offense guessing. If Slay is out, he is replaced outside by Jamar Taylor.

      Pass Rush

      In both schemes, we are very rarely sending blitzers. We think we can get to Brees rushing only four. With Smith out, Decker will be the LT and Wagner the RT. Both are ok players, but we think our rotation of rushers, though not as great as Camdens, can beat them. Ingram and Perry will play most of the snaps, with Dumervil coming in for around 35% of the snaps and Okwara getting the call in running situations mostly. Inside, it is Geno and Gerald show as they have a formidable matchup against two middling guards (one being questionable) and an underperforming center, with Hageman only coming in to rest them, preferably in running downs also. The left side of the line might be vulnerable since Decker has not played there much in BDL this year (or ever in fact) and Leary himself was a backup a few weeks ago for Camden. We will run some stunts on the left side to confuse that duo and test their chemistry.

      Tl;dr: Stop the run, rush only four, mix coverages to confuse Brees, contain Evans and ODB
      Last edited by miamidolphin4life; 01-02-2017, 07:31 AM.

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      • #4
        Randall Cobb inactive for Camden. Spencer Ware for Seoul.

        TJ Johnson is probably a fictional football player too.
        CMD VI - Kansas City Chiefs

        Matt Ryan, Justin Houston, Muhammad Wilkerson, Jeremy Maclin, Trent Williams, Evan Mathis, Justin Forsett, Sam Shields, Max Unger, Kyle Fuller, Timmy Jernigan, Aaron Williams, Geoff Schwartz, Robert Woods, Sio Moore, Jelani Jenkins, Matt Slauson, Husain Abdullah, Glenn Dorsey, Scott Chandler, Jonathan Newsome, Taylor Gabriel, Mike DeVito, Cortland Finnegan, Nate Irving, Roy Helu Jr, Mike Mohamed, John Kuhn, Nickell Robey, Jacoby Jones, Danieal Manning, Donald Stephenson

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TedLavie View Post
          Randall Cobb inactive for Camden. Spencer Ware for Seoul.

          TJ Johnson is probably a fictional football player too.
          Haha, he's on the Bengals. Mostly a guard but started a couple games at C this year for them.

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          • #6
            And by sheer luck, he actually started at guard this week for the Bengals.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JLash View Post
              And by sheer luck, he actually started at guard this week for the Bengals.
              Given that you lost 3 linemen in a week, I think you may be overestimating your luck haha
              CMD VI - Kansas City Chiefs

              Matt Ryan, Justin Houston, Muhammad Wilkerson, Jeremy Maclin, Trent Williams, Evan Mathis, Justin Forsett, Sam Shields, Max Unger, Kyle Fuller, Timmy Jernigan, Aaron Williams, Geoff Schwartz, Robert Woods, Sio Moore, Jelani Jenkins, Matt Slauson, Husain Abdullah, Glenn Dorsey, Scott Chandler, Jonathan Newsome, Taylor Gabriel, Mike DeVito, Cortland Finnegan, Nate Irving, Roy Helu Jr, Mike Mohamed, John Kuhn, Nickell Robey, Jacoby Jones, Danieal Manning, Donald Stephenson

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              • #8
                Gunter is an outside corner all the way. Newman has been playing more slot than boundary this season. Those two definitely should have been flipped.

                Camden's offensive line is really hurting today, and that's tough to overlook against such a great defensive line. I like both teams' offensive gameplans a lot. This will be a tough one to pick.
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                I should be put on an island and nuked.
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                Blue is right

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TedLavie View Post

                  Given that you lost 3 linemen in a week, I think you may be overestimating your luck haha
                  Haha. I'm happy I had enough lineman on my roster, let alone guys who are actually starting IRL at this point after all my injuries.

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                  • #10
                    Just for the record, Newman wasn't on OBJ much or at all for that game. It was mainly Rhodes. "they were led by Xavier Rhodes, who allowed three catches for 23 yards on seven targets to Odell Beckham Jr."

                    In this case, i think slay being back hurts Seoul, as a zone based strategy with their defense/pressure may have been a better bet against a team with a LOL line and really good wideouts

                    Converesely, obviously you can't put everything into a lineup, but JLash had to know we would want to see how he'd help out that right side of the line. I don't think swings and screens are enough. Though he can be successful running the ball here\.

                    Gonna come back after thinking on it. Good work gentlemen
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bcb1213 View Post
                      Just for the record, Newman wasn't on OBJ much or at all for that game. It was mainly Rhodes. "they were led by Xavier Rhodes, who allowed three catches for 23 yards on seven targets to Odell Beckham Jr."

                      In this case, i think slay being back hurts Seoul, as a zone based strategy with their defense/pressure may have been a better bet against a team with a LOL line and really good wideouts

                      Converesely, obviously you can't put everything into a lineup, but JLash had to know we would want to see how he'd help out that right side of the line. I don't think swings and screens are enough. Though he can be successful running the ball here\.

                      Gonna come back after thinking on it. Good work gentlemen
                      I watched that MIN NYG game and actually Newman played on ODB occasionally. Most times with safety help but there was at least one instance Eli went deep for ODB and Newman had perfect coverage. I remember it because ODB almost made an insane catch.

                      I think having individual coverage allows me to put Adams in the box which helps my run defense. But I understand your point. Tbh Wagner wasn't on Wed injury report (or I missed him) so I didn't think Camden had to start TJ Johnson.
                      CMD VI - Kansas City Chiefs

                      Matt Ryan, Justin Houston, Muhammad Wilkerson, Jeremy Maclin, Trent Williams, Evan Mathis, Justin Forsett, Sam Shields, Max Unger, Kyle Fuller, Timmy Jernigan, Aaron Williams, Geoff Schwartz, Robert Woods, Sio Moore, Jelani Jenkins, Matt Slauson, Husain Abdullah, Glenn Dorsey, Scott Chandler, Jonathan Newsome, Taylor Gabriel, Mike DeVito, Cortland Finnegan, Nate Irving, Roy Helu Jr, Mike Mohamed, John Kuhn, Nickell Robey, Jacoby Jones, Danieal Manning, Donald Stephenson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bcb1213 View Post
                        Just for the record, Newman wasn't on OBJ much or at all for that game. It was mainly Rhodes. "they were led by Xavier Rhodes, who allowed three catches for 23 yards on seven targets to Odell Beckham Jr."

                        In this case, i think slay being back hurts Seoul, as a zone based strategy with their defense/pressure may have been a better bet against a team with a LOL line and really good wideouts

                        Converesely, obviously you can't put everything into a lineup, but JLash had to know we would want to see how he'd help out that right side of the line. I don't think swings and screens are enough. Though he can be successful running the ball here\.

                        Gonna come back after thinking on it. Good work gentlemen
                        You're right, I didn't mention it about the right side. But Celek/Green's role all year long in most of my write up has been staying in and helping protect, I don't even mention them going out in coverage.

                        I can't even explain how down I was during this writeup. Going 17 weeks of doing this, only to have Smith sit out, my back up RT (who is a pretty good player) suffer a concussion in week 16, my 3rd string RT (Barbre) suffer a hamstring injury week 16 and possibly render my whole seasons work useless. I'd never thought I'd say this, but thank God for TJ Johnson. Haha. But yea, I think most of my years work has shown Celek/Green not doing much but blocking.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JLash View Post

                          You're right, I didn't mention it about the right side. But Celek/Green's role all year long in most of my write up has been staying in and helping protect, I don't even mention them going out in coverage.

                          I can't even explain how down I was during this writeup. Going 17 weeks of doing this, only to have Smith sit out, my back up RT (who is a pretty good player) suffer a concussion in week 16, my 3rd string RT (Barbre) suffer a hamstring injury week 16 and possibly render my whole seasons work useless. I'd never thought I'd say this, but thank God for TJ Johnson. Haha. But yea, I think most of my years work has shown Celek/Green not doing much but blocking.
                          yea, i felt this way last week about Jenkins. Was probably the one player I could least afford to lose
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blue View Post
                            Gunter is an outside corner all the way. Newman has been playing more slot than boundary this season. Those two definitely should have been flipped.

                            Camden's offensive line is really hurting today, and that's tough to overlook against such a great defensive line. I like both teams' offensive gameplans a lot. This will be a tough one to pick.
                            Didn't Gunter play slot early in the year? I thought so but I guess I'm wrong.

                            Anyway at first I had Butler planned there for Cobb, which seemed more logical. I wanted to have Newman on ODB because I feel he is a much better player than my other CBs and I wanted to eliminate the catch and run opportunities for ODB with good coverage. And that would justify, imho, having Gunter on LaFell, who is more suited to play outside anyways.
                            CMD VI - Kansas City Chiefs

                            Matt Ryan, Justin Houston, Muhammad Wilkerson, Jeremy Maclin, Trent Williams, Evan Mathis, Justin Forsett, Sam Shields, Max Unger, Kyle Fuller, Timmy Jernigan, Aaron Williams, Geoff Schwartz, Robert Woods, Sio Moore, Jelani Jenkins, Matt Slauson, Husain Abdullah, Glenn Dorsey, Scott Chandler, Jonathan Newsome, Taylor Gabriel, Mike DeVito, Cortland Finnegan, Nate Irving, Roy Helu Jr, Mike Mohamed, John Kuhn, Nickell Robey, Jacoby Jones, Danieal Manning, Donald Stephenson

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                            • #15
                              Also Ted, Leary has been starting for me for 9 weeks now. I know it's been hard to keep track of the carousel.

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