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  • BDL 2017 Negotiations

    Discuss contract extensions, 3 Ups etc.

  • #2
    Boston Trades:

    Singapore 1st
    Orlando 3rd
    QB Jared Goff

    Wichita Trades:

    QB Phillip Rivers (3up and over)

    RL Deal: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-diego...p-rivers-3522/

    BDL 3up Deal: 20,813/3
    Last edited by DingoLad; 01-05-2017, 05:24 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DingoLad View Post
      Boston Trades:

      Singapore 1st
      Orlando 3rd
      QB Jared Goff

      Wichita Trades:

      QB Phillip Rivers (3up and over)

      RL Deal: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-diego...p-rivers-3522/

      BDL 3up Deal: 20,800/4
      Confirmed.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by DingoLad View Post
        Boston Trades:

        Singapore 1st
        Orlando 3rd
        QB Jared Goff

        Wichita Trades:

        QB Phillip Rivers (3up and over)

        RL Deal: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-diego...p-rivers-3522/

        BDL 3up Deal: 20,800/4
        Approved as it takes both players 3 Ups and overs to do the deal.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DingoLad View Post
          Boston Trades:

          Singapore 1st
          Orlando 3rd
          QB Jared Goff

          Wichita Trades:

          QB Phillip Rivers (3up and over)

          RL Deal: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-diego...p-rivers-3522/

          BDL 3up Deal: 20,800/4
          Denied. Rivers' deal runs through 2019 and s/b 20813 per year. Lucky excuse to get out of a gaping rape deal, or you could adjust it to 3/20813 and I would approve.
          pheltzbahr 2016 NFL Mock

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          • #6
            this will be fun

            Rome 3 up

            QB Derek Carr

            5 years 89,250 (17850 per)

            I used 21,000 which is in between Rivers and Wilson which I think is realistic and did the 85 percent. This also makes Carr the third highest paid BDL player in history
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            • #7
              Originally posted by pheltzbahr View Post

              Denied. Rivers' deal runs through 2019 and s/b 20813 per year. Lucky excuse to get out of a gaping rape deal, or you could adjust it to 3/20813 and I would approve.
              Thanks Pheltz. Spotrac was blocked by my work computer.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bcb1213 View Post
                this will be fun

                Rome 3 up

                QB Derek Carr

                5 years 89,250 (17850 per)

                I used 21,000 which is in between Rivers and Wilson which I think is realistic and did the 85 percent. This also makes Carr the third highest paid BDL player in history
                I will deny this for now and tell you why. While not to the level of PSU chicanery but the 85% deal for 3 Ups is based off of RL numbers not made up numbers or BDL numbers. Rivers deal is old and Russel Wilson was a FA signing and not based off his RL numbers.

                Carr is going to get paid much more IRL. The minimum starting point would be Andrew Luck's deal which is over $23M/year. My suggestion is to RFA tag him this year match anything close to $20K/year and then 3 Up him in 2018 once he signs a RL extension.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SirA View Post

                  I will deny this for now and tell you why. While not to the level of PSU chicanery but the 85% deal for 3 Ups is based off of RL numbers not made up numbers or BDL numbers. Rivers deal is old and Russel Wilson was a FA signing and not based off his RL numbers.

                  Carr is going to get paid much more IRL. The minimum starting point would be Andrew Luck's deal which is over $23M/year. My suggestion is to RFA tag him this year match anything close to $20K/year and then 3 Up him in 2018 once he signs a RL extension.
                  I used Wilson's IRL contract actually....
                  A mans reputation is what his friends say about him. His character is what his enemies say about him

                  Live everyday as if it is your last, one day it will be

                  Life has defining moments, define the moment or the moment will define you

                  Ask yourself if you would feel comfortable giving your 2 best friends keys to your house. If not, find new best friends

                  Dont trust a women who doesn't close her eyes when you kiss her

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                  • #10
                    Wilson makes 22 IRL, Rivers, 20. I don't think Carr is gonna get to luck/Wilson numbers but he'll be close which 21 most certainly is
                    A mans reputation is what his friends say about him. His character is what his enemies say about him

                    Live everyday as if it is your last, one day it will be

                    Life has defining moments, define the moment or the moment will define you

                    Ask yourself if you would feel comfortable giving your 2 best friends keys to your house. If not, find new best friends

                    Dont trust a women who doesn't close her eyes when you kiss her

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pheltzbahr View Post

                      Denied. Rivers' deal runs through 2019 and s/b 20813 per year. Lucky excuse to get out of a gaping rape deal, or you could adjust it to 3/20813 and I would approve.
                      I agree with Pheltz on all points.

                      Originally posted by bcb1213 View Post
                      Wilson makes 22 IRL, Rivers, 20. I don't think Carr is gonna get to luck/Wilson numbers but he'll be close which 21 most certainly is
                      I don't think you understand. We don't do 85% of an offer which isn't based on the player's IRL contract.
                      Last edited by Blue; 01-05-2017, 02:08 PM.
                      Originally posted by jepg
                      I apologise to the entire Walter Football community for my bigoted views.

                      I should be put on an island and nuked.
                      Originally posted by jepg
                      Blue is right

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Blue View Post

                        I don't think you understand. We don't do 85% of an offer which isn't based on the player's IRL contract.
                        well, i don't have any other extension option here as I can't resign him for the remaining year of his rookie deal either. nor a 4-th/5th year option. There has got to be some kind of way to extend him besides....tough luck bro
                        A mans reputation is what his friends say about him. His character is what his enemies say about him

                        Live everyday as if it is your last, one day it will be

                        Life has defining moments, define the moment or the moment will define you

                        Ask yourself if you would feel comfortable giving your 2 best friends keys to your house. If not, find new best friends

                        Dont trust a women who doesn't close her eyes when you kiss her

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bcb1213 View Post

                          well, i don't have any other extension option here as I can't resign him for the remaining year of his rookie deal either. nor a 4-th/5th year option. There has got to be some kind of way to extend him besides....tough luck bro
                          While I don't agree with his starting point, SirA literally just told you what your options are.

                          Originally posted by SirA View Post
                          The minimum starting point would be Andrew Luck's deal which is over $23M/year. My suggestion is to RFA tag him this year match anything close to $20K/year and then 3 Up him in 2018 once he signs a RL extension.
                          With 12 QBs who currently make over $20 million/year, a $17.5k offer is just too low without an IRL deal to work off of. Either start in the 20s or wait for him to sign an IRL deal (which I think he will this offseason).

                          Otherwise, I doubt anyone is going to make an offer to him in RFA that you won't match.
                          Originally posted by jepg
                          I apologise to the entire Walter Football community for my bigoted views.

                          I should be put on an island and nuked.
                          Originally posted by jepg
                          Blue is right

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blue View Post

                            While I don't agree with his starting point, SirA literally just told you what your options are.



                            With 12 QBs who currently make over $20 million/year, a $17.5k offer is just too low without an IRL deal to work off of. Either start in the 20s or wait for him to sign an IRL deal (which I think he will this offseason).

                            Otherwise, I doubt anyone is going to make an offer to him in RFA that you won't match.
                            For some reason I thought I recalled it being the average of the top 5 salaries at the position so you guys are right. I am quite a bit low

                            QB Derek Carr

                            5 years 97750, 19550 per

                            85 percent of average of top 5 qb's in NFL

                            Luck 24.600
                            Brees 24.300
                            Flacco 22.100
                            Rodgers 22.000
                            Wilson 21.900

                            Averages to roughly 23,000 (22988 or something like that)

                            Comes to 19550 after 85 percent
                            A mans reputation is what his friends say about him. His character is what his enemies say about him

                            Live everyday as if it is your last, one day it will be

                            Life has defining moments, define the moment or the moment will define you

                            Ask yourself if you would feel comfortable giving your 2 best friends keys to your house. If not, find new best friends

                            Dont trust a women who doesn't close her eyes when you kiss her

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pheltzbahr View Post

                              Denied. Rivers' deal runs through 2019 and s/b 20813 per year. Lucky excuse to get out of a gaping rape deal, or you could adjust it to 3/20813 and I would approve.
                              Fixed it, I just rounded down my bad.

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