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  • Jaguars to release veterans Holt, Thomas

    Originally posted by rotoworld
    The Jaguars informed veteran WR Torry Holt and OT Tra Thomas that they will be released next week.

    Holt, 33, was the Jags' third-leading receiver in 2009, but he's devoid of playmaking ability at this stage of his career. Holt played ten seasons in St. Louis before signing with Jacksonville last April. Mike Thomas could ascend to Holt's starting spot in 2010. Teams can not release players until the Monday after the Super Bowl.
    I wonder if they'll try to find another team or just retire, Holt still had a decent season last year.

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    Holt might have some value for a dome team. Tra Thomas could play some right tackle for somebody.
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    • #3
      Holt may hold some value to a team like Cleveland or someone like that who have a lot of young Receivers that could learn from talking with Holt and watching how he plays.

      Thomas may be a nice one or two year transition Right Tackle for a team with a young offensive linemen that needs to develop more before starting.
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      • #4
        Holt might be able to outperform a vet minimum salary as someone's WR4 but there's equal chance or better that he won't, which means it's time to retire.
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        • #5
          Best destinations for Holt

          Patriots
          Bears
          Cleveland
          Saints
          San Diego
          Baltimore
          Falcons
          Panthers
          Jets
          49ers

          He won't be able to be a #1 anymore, but he could be a good number two or three for these teams. He can mentor younger players, or just be a smart veteran player that plays hard, and is intelligent.
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          • #6
            I still think Thomas can play left tackle, actually. He'd be a low-end, 2008 Mike Gandy left tackle, but he can play the position. I think he retires, though.

            Holt's only 33. Still, if you're not Randy Moss or T.O., older receivers have trouble going somewhere that they can start and don't feel like backing up younger guys.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by DevineIntervention View Post
              Best destinations for Holt

              Patriots
              Bears
              Cleveland
              Saints
              San Diego
              Baltimore
              Falcons
              Panthers
              Jets
              49ers

              He won't be able to be a #1 anymore, but he could be a good number two or three for these teams. He can mentor younger players, or just be a smart veteran player that plays hard, and is intelligent.
              I really like the bolded teams as destinations for Holt. Especially Chicago and Cleveland that have a ton of young receivers. Throw Miami in there, too.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by loneweasel View Post
                Holt might be able to outperform a vet minimum salary as someone's WR4 but there's equal chance or better that he won't, which means it's time to retire.
                He has 115 receptions for 1500+ yards on two bad teams, with bad offensive lines, and not great quarterbacks. I think he has something left in the tank, and could be a solid #2 or good #3 for a playoff team looking to get their offense improved
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by blue5213 View Post
                  I really like the bolded teams as destinations for Holt. Especially Chicago and Cleveland that have a ton of young receivers. Throw Miami in there, too.
                  Definitely true, i was going through teams in my head and missed them. They have a lot of young WRs, they can definitely learn a lot by playing with Holt, and learning how to read defenses, and how to always be open. Teams could be very hopeful they will pick up on Holts good habits, not a big mouth, and practices very hard. I remember him once saying he would catch 1000 balls in practice each day. That, is incredible! Determination to be great..
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DevineIntervention View Post
                    He has 115 receptions for 1500+ yards on two bad teams, with bad offensive lines, and not great quarterbacks. I think he has something left in the tank, and could be a solid #2 or good #3 for a playoff team looking to get their offense improved
                    Which means there's also not much competition for the targets.

                    Watching him he's looked like just a body out there in the last two years. The speed is gone. He doesn't have anything extra left like size, elusivity or surehandedness. He'll catch a five yard curl against soft coverage but won't do anything with it. This sounds like the job description of an adequate WR3 in many offenses. But the problem is that there's absolutely no upside to him and there's significant chance he'll crater. It's quite possible his performance next year won't even merit the vet min+ (~$1M) salary he'll command. A mid-low round pick will be cheaper with much more upside.

                    Of course if you are say the Patriots who were running special teamers out of the spread, Holt is a justifiable gamble. But that's about it. A player of his stature could and probably should just rest for his health and family.
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                    • #11
                      If Brett Favre somes back next year I would love Holt as our #4 WR, but he probably wouldnt go for that...
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                      • #12
                        Teams are already cutting players? Damn, it's coming early this year.

                        The Jags don't have to worry about having 4 tackles this year.


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                        • #13
                          Thomas had a very good year at left tackle and was far better than Eugene Monroe. He makes sense for a team like the Cowboys, Redskins, Cardinals or Vikings who need a franchise left tackle but are in no position to draft one.

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                          • #14
                            I like Chicago as destinations for BOTH players. Maybe Holt goes to SF for a reunion with Isaac Bruce?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ckane138 View Post
                              Thomas had a very good year at left tackle and was far better than Eugene Monroe. He makes sense for a team like the Cowboys, Redskins, Cardinals or Vikings who need a franchise left tackle but are in no position to draft one.
                              Yeah but I'd rather have Monroe I mean he was just a rookie.


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