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  • Originally posted by vikingsteve26 View Post
    Yeah, because the easy way is easy. Figure that out. I wouldn't put myself through unnecessary trials if I didn't have to. If you would elect to, you have poor prioritization.
    So he is a lesser prospect because he didn't give up on his team and take the 'easy' way? You want to talk about poor prioritization, talk about Jimmy Smith or Mallett. Not a guy who didn't abandon his team. This might be the single worst case I've ever heard against any prospect ever.

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    • Originally posted by WokDontRun View Post
      Generally. But not this year. HALF of the Pac 10 did not qualify for bowl game (WSU, OSU, ASU, UCLA, Cal). Those are not good teams. Spin it any way you want. You have 2 teams with double digit wins. Contrast that against the SEC which has 4 10 wins teams in the West. And 10 teams in the SEC went to a bowl game.
      It's also dramatically harder for Pac 10 teams to qualify for bowl games because they have to play 9 conference games.

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      • Originally posted by cutty View Post
        That is the kindest, gentlist post I've ever seen. I mean, "I could be wrong"??? What happened son? All that praise on your Rams write-up turned you into a puppydog.
        LMAO Naw, arguing about Locker, Gabbert and Newton has become old and seriously boring. We've beaten it to death here and I think everyone knows where I stand on all of them.

        They all suck....hahahaha

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        • Originally posted by vikingsteve26 View Post
          It's not stupid. He could have easily won the starting job for a majority of schools he could transfer to. You're just making excuses for him staying at Washington. Maybe if he wasn't so sentimental with UW and actually gave a **** about the way he was being graded (while thinking TOWARD THE FUTURE) he would have transferred and bettered his resume for the NFL.


          Don't tell me it is a bad idea when it is nothing but a GOOD idea considering that staying at UW hasn't done him any good in the way of evaluations. People have to make excuses for his inconsistent play by citing a poor offensive line and subpar WRs. He's lucking out by being in a terrible QB class with a ton of teams needing a QB. Any other year and he'd just be the inconsistent, mobile guy in the 2nd/3rd round.
          Loyalty > trying to improve your draft stock. Honestly, every QB should just have the mindset that they're going to play the game as well as they can in college and not give a **** if they're drafted 1st overall or in the 6th round, then do everything they can in the NFL to be the best they can be.

          Originally posted by WokDontRun View Post
          Generally. But not this year. HALF of the Pac 10 did not qualify for bowl game (WSU, OSU, ASU, UCLA, Cal). Those are not good teams. Spin it any way you want. You have 2 teams with double digit wins. Contrast that against the SEC which has 4 10 wins teams in the West. And 10 teams in the SEC went to a bowl game.
          And the SEC is the best conference in football. The Pac-10 is still one of the best. And all of those teams outside of WSU is actually decent. I repeat, THIS IS NOT THE ****ING SEC. They are a good conference compared to all of D-1. You are grading them against the SEC more than you are D-1 as a whole.
          Last edited by Robley; 04-13-2011, 10:36 PM.

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          • As much as I think Jake Locker won't be anything more than a Kyle Boller type in the NFL I have mad crazy respect for him staying at WU. He could have easily sad **** these scrubs, but he didn't and he stuck through it.

            That rag of a magazine, ESPN, had a ****ing fantastic article about Locker and they took 3 different scouts' point of view on him. They all graded him out as a 2nd rounder and gave good analysis on his college career and how he went from a super hyped potential top pick to a borderline 1st / 2nd round guy.

            Someone like Locker would best served to go to a place like Indy or New England, I'm not saying they should draft him, but if he went to a place like that he wouldn;t be forced to start and he could actually sit for literally 3 or 4 years. He'll never ever be an instinctual QB, he's as mechanical as they come, but if he were to sit in one system for say 3 or 4 years and backup someone of a Manning or Brady caliber he would make a solid starter.

            If he is picked by a team that needs him to start ASAP he'll get overwhelmed too quickly. He is not a prospect that can go to a bad team and carry them from day 1, he isn't that kind of a special talent. He's a middle of the pack prospect with athleticism and a decent arm. His accuracy and decision making is atrocious and even though his QB coach Ken O'Brian thinks those 2 things can be learned it can't. He is what he is.
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            • Originally posted by Robley View Post
              And the SEC is the best conference in football. The Pac-10 is still one of the best. And all of those teams outside of WSU is actually decent. I repeat, THIS IS NOT THE ****ING SEC. They are a good conference compared to all of D-1. You are grading them against the SEC more than you are D-1 as a whole.
              True. Because they are a BCS auto-qualifying conference. One would not compare the Pac-10 to Conference USA. But we were not even talking about conferences comparisons to begin with. We were talking about how 5 teams that UW played were bad teams, and 4 were mediocre. So he did not play against good competition

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              • Originally posted by WokDontRun View Post
                Generally. But not this year. HALF of the Pac 10 did not qualify for bowl game (WSU, OSU, ASU, UCLA, Cal). Those are not good teams. Spin it any way you want. You have 2 teams with double digit wins. Contrast that against the SEC which has 4 10 wins teams in the West. And 10 teams in the SEC went to a bowl game.
                Compare the out of conference resumes of the SEC to the Pac-10. Also remember that the Pac-10 has 5 more losses than the SEC by default because they play 9 in-conference games, so five teams HAVE to lose. The SEC's a better conference, but bandying around inflated records helped by playing powerhouses like Troy, Florida A&M, and Georgia State is not the way to prove it.

                Originally posted by WokDontRun View Post
                I think Mallet's off feild problems get blown out of proportion. He is a good passer. But is a product of the Petrino system. My problem with him is that he chokes in pressure situations (Bama, OSU; UPig fans will point to the Moo St win in OT as a counter), and he has a sense of entitlement from UPig fans. The Legend of Ryan Mallet BS that he pulled in that interview with Erin Andrews.
                I don't really buy into the "Petrino System" as being a damnation for a QB. Do NOT god damn cite Brian Brohm; that guy had his own brother calling his plays for him. That is so far beyond saying "Petrino's Offense masked his flaws" it isn't even funny. Don't play that, homie.
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                • Originally posted by Blazedestin View Post
                  Compare the out of conference resumes of the SEC to the Pac-10. Also remember that the Pac-10 has 5 more losses than the SEC by default because they play 9 in-conference games, so five teams HAVE to lose. The SEC's a better conference, but bandying around inflated records helped by playing powerhouses like Troy, Florida A&M, and Georgia State is not the way to prove it.



                  I don't really buy into the "Petrino System" as being a damnation for a QB. Do NOT god damn cite Brian Brohm; that guy had his own brother calling his plays for him. That is so far beyond saying "Petrino's Offense masked his flaws" it isn't even funny. Don't play that, homie.
                  I really respect the Pac 10 for thier out of conference games. I hate bought wins or what I like to call snuff games against the likes of Arkansas St., and D1AA teams, but the fans show up and the schools make money. I wish we would play more than one good/decent OOC game a year.



                  I was thinking more along the lines what he did at Auburn in 2002. Or the job he did with Casey Dick in 2008.

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                  • Originally posted by vikingsteve26 View Post
                    Are you a member of the Westboro Baptist Church too? I take it you enjoy saying ignorant things. I didn't play sports because I had no interest in working my ass off.
                    What I have bolded right there is why you're going no-where in life. I can guarantee if your boss read that right there that he would be having some serious doubts as to whether you were going to be his employee for much longer. A poor work ethic helps nobody. You're embarrassing yourself. I mean honestly, who admits that they're lazy and they don't like to work hard? At least you can say you're honest I guess....

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                    • Originally posted by WokDontRun View Post
                      I really respect the Pac 10 for thier out of conference games. I hate bought wins or what I like to call snuff games against the likes of Arkansas St., and D1AA teams, but the fans show up and the schools make money. I wish we would play more than one good/decent OOC game a year.

                      I was thinking more along the lines what he did at Auburn in 2002. Or the job he did with Casey Dick in 2008.
                      No one had ever considered Casey Dick a legitimate NFL prospect. I might have spent a 7th round flyer just to say I got a Dick from Arkansas.

                      And to be fair, most SEC teams DID have at least one game against a AQ conference, with the only exception being the Mississippi schools. I think that the SEC though, could always look into scheduling a quality Non-AQ or a lower tier AQ opponent instead of Sun Belt teams. Some FCS games are contractually obligated; Arizona and ASU are both obligated to play Northern Arizona in alternating years. I forget who set it up, but it could actually be a state law to generate revenue for NAU's program.
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                      • Originally posted by Blazedestin View Post
                        No one had ever considered Casey Dick a legitimate NFL prospect. I might have spent a 7th round flyer just to say I got a Dick from Arkansas.

                        And to be fair, most SEC teams DID have at least one game against a AQ conference, with the only exception being the Mississippi schools. I think that the SEC though, could always look into scheduling a quality Non-AQ or a lower tier AQ opponent instead of Sun Belt teams. Some FCS games are contractually obligated; Arizona and ASU are both obligated to play Northern Arizona in alternating years. I forget who set it up, but it could actually be a state law to generate revenue for NAU's program.
                        I never said they did. Anyone that thinks CS could go to the NFL is sniffing glue. And Im almost certain that Petrino calls the plays (I know he does at Arky) and did so for Brohm. But that does not matter. Look at what Petrino did with Chris Redman his 1st time at UL. Seems like all of his QB bust in the NFL.

                        Agree on the schedule thing. It would be nice to see quality games early in the season. Auburn will be playing Washington St in 2013. We are going to murder them. Im ok with them playing Northern Arizona, keeping money in state is a good idea. But it cost ASU a bowl game this year because they had more than one win against the FSC.

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                        • Originally posted by WokDontRun View Post
                          I never said they did. Anyone that thinks CS could go to the NFL is sniffing glue. And Im almost certain that Petrino calls the plays (I know he does at Arky) and did so for Brohm. But that does not matter. Look at what Petrino did with Chris Redman his 1st time at UL. Seems like all of his QB bust in the NFL.

                          Agree on the schedule thing. It would be nice to see quality games early in the season. Auburn will be playing Washington St in 2013. We are going to murder them. Im ok with them playing Northern Arizona, keeping money in state is a good idea. But it cost ASU a bowl game this year because they had more than one win against the FSC.
                          While of course, he wasn't at Louisville during Brohm's senior season, his brother was a huge part of the offensive staff there. I believe Brohm's older brother called plays at least his senior season. He had to have had a hand in relaying the plays earlier than that though.

                          I will observe though, that Petrino has never had a high-profile QB to the best of my knowledge. He had Chris Redman as a 3rd round pick, which almost always is a bust at QB. He has developed into a capable backup though. Are we seriously going to refer to all of his QB's as busts when he's never had a 1st round QB? Mallett is the highest profile QB who is largely defined by the Petrino offense. Jason Campbell was probably a higher draft pick, but Petrino only spent a single season there; too little to refer to Campbell as a Petrino product.
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                          • Originally posted by WokDontRun View Post
                            Lets see how they do with Nick Montana next year.
                            It is completely and utterly faulty to compare Locker's value to the University of Washington based on how well Nick Montana(or Keith Price, mind you) do as the starting quarterback 2011. Steve Sarkisian didn't have anything talent wise when he got to Washington and he had offensive personnel that were definitely not recruited for the offense that he wanted to institute at Washington, especially the quarterback. Did you know that Locker ran the Wing T in high school? Never has Locker ever ran anything where he had to make more than one or two reads offensively in his life before his Junior year of college(his fourth year at UW). Nick Montana or Keith Price will be much more successful than Locker in college because they were recruited for the offensive system and will have much better talent around them. Look up Kasen Williams and Austin Sefarian Jenkins, Jake Locker would have killed to have those kids on campus his first year as a starter. You know who Locker's leading receiver was his RS Freshman year? The fullback of the Oakland friggen Raiders.

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                            • Originally posted by WokDontRun View Post
                              Generally. But not this year. HALF of the Pac 10 did not qualify for bowl game (WSU, OSU, ASU, UCLA, Cal). Those are not good teams. Spin it any way you want. You have 2 teams with double digit wins. Contrast that against the SEC which has 4 10 wins teams in the West. And 10 teams in the SEC went to a bowl game.
                              lol. Contrasted to the SEC whose teams get to play 4 OoC games, mostly against cupcake teams? The Pac-10 plays a round robin schedule, nine conference games, which means teams like Oregon State, Arizona State and Cal, who missed out on bowl games by one loss/win, missed out because they lost to a team like Washington, who was clawing for a bowl spot, instead of getting to pound San Jose State's ass for their extra win. No, the Pac-10 was not a great conference, but them beating themselves up with an extra conference game had a little to do with the lack of bowl qualifying teams. It's the same thing that happens in the ACC with mediocre but not great teams.

                              And, since I know that this argument spawned from the quality of teams Locker's played, let's look at the total defense stats of UW's 2010 opponents. Including all of our OoC foes, you'll see 7 teams we played within the top 36 in the country.

                              http://content.usatoday.com/sportsda...-total-defense

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