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    Mock Draft and Position Rankings. That is all.

    01. Browns: Sam Darnold, QB, USC; Browns should take their top QB, period. Unless you can get to 2.
    02. Giants: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn St: Giants will want to trade down, but if not, they take Saquon.
    03. Jets: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA: Rosen is the most complete looking QB in the class.
    04. Browns: Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Bama: Browns can put him in either place.
    05. Broncos: Bradley Chubb, DE, NC St: Nelson is possible, but a pass rusher is more valuable and Chubb is better.
    06. Colts: Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame: If the Colts ignore OL any more, they deserve to keep losing Luck to injury.
    07. Bucs: Derwin James, S, Florida St: Better player than any other remaining needs.
    08. Bears: Denzel Ward, CB: Second CB is still better than most other players in the draft.
    09. 49ers: Marcus Davenport, DE, UTSA: Pass rushers in this class will move fast.
    10. Raiders: Terrell Edmunds, LB: Rush the passer or play in the middle, he'll fit a need.
    11. Dolphins: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming: Dolphins see Wentz in Allen and hope to let him sit for a bit.
    12. Bills: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma: Bills may trade up for an earlier QB, but I'm not projecting that.
    13. Redskins: Vita Vea, NT, Washington: I expect most will like Vea more than Payne.
    14. Packers: Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU: Top receiver in the class to give Rodgers something else.
    15. Cardinals: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame: I honestly expect McGlinchey to go earlier in this weak as hell OT class.
    16. Ravens: Mike Gisecki, Penn St: He should go very early.
    17. Chargers: DaRon Payne, DT, Alabama: Chargers improve an already tough front seven.
    18. Seahawks: Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville: Seahawks need another CB after cutting Sherman.
    19. Cowboys: Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama: Boys ususally do there own thing, but with Ridley falling to them, it's easy.
    20. Lions: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio St: Because they need someone other than Ansah.
    21. Bengals: Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP: Bengals turn around their Oline immediately.
    22. Bills: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa: With a deep corner class, there's a run coming
    23. Rams: Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise St: Rams beef up a great front seven.
    24. Panthers: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia: Replacement for Norwell.
    25. Titans: Harold Landry,OLB, BoCo: Titans need depth outside desperately.
    26. Falcons: Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford: The Falcons need someone to replace Poe.
    27. Saints: Hayden Hearst, TE, South Carolina: The Saints haven't been the same without Graham.
    28. Steelers: Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia: Shazier is inspiring and all, but his career is likely over.
    29. Jags: Christian Kirk, WR, TAMU: The Jags helped replace Robinson in FA, but they need more playmakers.
    30. VIkings: Connor Williams, OT, Texas: The Vikings need other stuff, but with few good OTs and no better players at needs, they take Williams.
    31. Pats: Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn: The Pats got Hill, but Johnson could be a feature back.
    32. Eagles: Derrius Guice, RB, LSU: The Eagles don't have many needs, but a running back across from Ajayi would help.

    BONUS: The next four rounds of Titans picks!

    02. BJ Hill, NT, NC State
    03. Oren Burks, LB, Vandy
    04. Skyler Phillips, OG, Idaho St
    05. Ethan Wolfe, TE, Tennessee

  • #2
    Positional Rankins:

    QB:
    1. Josh Rosen, UCLA
    2. Sam Darnold, USC
    3. Lamar Jackson, Louisville
    4. Josh Allen, Wyoming
    5. Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma
    6. Riley Ferguson, Memphis
    7. Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma St
    8. Kyle Laulata, Richmond
    9. JT Barrett, Ohio St
    10. Luke Faulk, Washington St

    RB:
    1. Saquon Barkley, Penn St
    2. Kerryon Johnson, Auburn
    3. Derrius Guice, LSU
    4. Nick Chubb, Georgia
    5. Sony Michel, Georgia
    6. Rashaad Penny, SDSU
    7. Ronald Jones, USC
    8. Royce Freeman, Oregon
    9. Bo Scarbarough, Alabama
    10. Roc Thomas, Jacksonville St
    OL:
    1. Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
    2. Will Hernandez, UTEP
    3. Isaiah Wynn, Georgia
    4. James Daniels, Iowa
    5. Billy Price, Ohio St
    6. Austin Corbett, Nevada
    7. Braden Smith, Auburn
    8. Frank Ragnow, Arkansas
    9. Scott Quessenberry, UCLA
    10. Skyler Phillips, Idaho St
    OT:
    1. Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame
    2. Connor Williams, Texas
    3. Tyrell Crosby, Oregon
    4. Brandon Parker, NCAT
    5. Kolton Miller, UCLA
    6. Alex Cappa, Humboldt St
    7. Matinas Rankin, Mississippi St
    8. Brian ONeill, Pitt
    9. Orlando Brown, Oklahoma
    10. Geron Christian, Louisville
    TE:
    1. Mike Gisecki, Penn St
    2. Hayden Hurst, South Carolina
    3. Dallas Goedert, SDSU
    4. Mark Andrews, Oklahoma
    5. Troy Fumagali, Wisconsin
    6. Tyler Conklin, Central Michigan
    7. Dalton Schultz, Stanford
    8. Ian Thomas, Indiana
    9. Ethan Wolfe, Tennessee
    10. Jordan Thomas, Mississippi St
    WR:
    1. Courtland Sutton, SMU
    2. Calvin Ridley, Alabama
    3. Christian Kirk, Texas AM
    4. DJ Moore, Maryland
    5. Equamanious St Brown, Notre Dame
    6. DJ Chark, LSU
    7. James Washington, Oklahoma St
    8. Marquez Valdes Scantling, South Florida
    9. Anthony Miller, Memphis
    10. Antonio Callaway, Florida

    DT:
    1. DaRon Payne, Alabama
    2. Vita Vea, Washington
    3. Harrison Phillips, Stanford
    4. BJ Hill, NC State
    5. Rasheem Green, USC
    6. Taven Bryan, Florida
    7. Nathan Shepherd, Ft Hays St
    8. Justin Jones, NC State
    9. Trenton Thomas, Georgia
    10. Khalil McKenzie, Tennessee
    DE:
    1. Bradley Chubb, NC State
    2. Marcus Davenport, UTSA
    3. Sam Hubbard, Ohio St
    4. Harold Landry, Boston College
    5. Lorenzo Carter, Georgia
    6. Dorance Armstrong, Kansas
    7. Josh Sweat, Florida St
    8. Arden Key, LSU
    9. Trevon Young, Louisville
    10. Chad Thomas, Miami
    LB:
    1. Tremaine Edwards, Virginia
    2. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St
    3. Roquan Smith, Georgia
    4. Malik Jefferson, Texas
    5. Oren Burks, Vandy
    6. Uchenna Nwosu, USC
    7. Leon Jacobs, Wisconsin
    8. Shaquem Griffin, UCF
    9. Rashaan Evans, Alabama
    10. Peter Kalambayi, Stanford
    CB:
    1. Denzel Ward, Ohio St
    2. Jaire Alexander, Louisville
    3. Josh Jackson, Iowa
    4. Donte Jackson, LSU
    5. Parry Nickerson, Tulane
    6. Mike Hughes, UCF
    7. Avonte Maddox, Pitt
    8. JC Jackson, Maryland
    9. Isaiah Oliver, Colorado
    10. Anthony Averett, Alabama
    S:
    1. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama (just here because there are more good corners than safeties)
    2. Derwin James, Florida St
    3. Justin Reid, Stanford
    4. Jessie Bates, Wake Forest
    5. Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech
    6. Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
    7. Armani Watts, TAMU
    8. DeShon Elliott, Texas
    9. Natrell Jamerson, Wisconsin
    10. Jordan Whitehead, Pitt



    Last edited by Daniel; 03-20-2018, 09:21 AM.

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    • #3
      2018. I'd love if Smith fell to Pittsburgh but I don't think he will.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by steelers_pens_fan View Post
        2018. I'd love if Smith fell to Pittsburgh but I don't think he will.
        I don't actually expect him to either. With the exception of QBs, I just use my own big board, since rankings are fluid as hell right now. I honestly do not get the Roquan love. He gets run over way too often, so I worry about his tackling ability in the NFL.
        Also, Steelers always have a highly touted prospect fall into their lap.

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        • #5
          I'm intrigued by Burks.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Castiron View Post
            I'm intrigued by Burks.
            I love him. This is a great linebacker class IMO. Edmunds is a top tier LB prospect, Vander Esch isn't far behind, and Roquan has issues, but is still good as a coverage linebacker. Jefferson is intriguing, lot to love and hate about him. Nwosu, Burks, Jacobs, and Evans look like do-it-all contributors to me, not studs. Griffin could be very good in the right scheme, but he's undersized, and crazy fast linebackers don't have a great history of working out well in the pros.

            The Titans appear to be very interested in Burks. Robinson himself went to the Vandy Pro Day (which was the day after free agency began), and seems like the Titans also interviewed him, so I assume they're going to be targeting him when the draft comes around.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Daniel View Post

              I love him. This is a great linebacker class IMO. Edmunds is a top tier LB prospect, Vander Esch isn't far behind, and Roquan has issues, but is still good as a coverage linebacker. Jefferson is intriguing, lot to love and hate about him. Nwosu, Burks, Jacobs, and Evans look like do-it-all contributors to me, not studs. Griffin could be very good in the right scheme, but he's undersized, and crazy fast linebackers don't have a great history of working out well in the pros.

              The Titans appear to be very interested in Burks. Robinson himself went to the Vandy Pro Day (which was the day after free agency began), and seems like the Titans also interviewed him, so I assume they're going to be targeting him when the draft comes around.
              What issues do you have with Roquan?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Castiron View Post

                What issues do you have with Roquan?
                Like I said, I saw him get run over a lot more than I am comfortable with in an every down linebacker. Just worry about his ability to tackle in the NFL. I've been too down on undersized linebackers before, but with guys like Reuben Foster, I never saw as much trouble as I did with Smith. That and he doesn't have elite read-and-react ability, or at least didn't appear to when I watched him.
                I'm sure he'd be fine as a coverage linebacker, I just don't see him being your go-to every down LB, which is what I expect if I'm taking a middle linebacker in the top half of the first round.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Daniel View Post

                  Like I said, I saw him get run over a lot more than I am comfortable with in an every down linebacker. Just worry about his ability to tackle in the NFL. I've been too down on undersized linebackers before, but with guys like Reuben Foster, I never saw as much trouble as I did with Smith. That and he doesn't have elite read-and-react ability, or at least didn't appear to when I watched him.
                  I'm sure he'd be fine as a coverage linebacker, I just don't see him being your go-to every down LB, which is what I expect if I'm taking a middle linebacker in the top half of the first round.
                  I kinda think of him as a Shazier tbh.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Castiron View Post

                    I kinda think of him as a Shazier tbh.
                    I hated on Shazier as a prospect too, so that may be an apt comparison.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Daniel View Post

                      I hated on Shazier as a prospect too, so that may be an apt comparison.
                      So did I, which is a bit of why I'm changing my opinion some on those players. Having a run and hit guy playing with a take-on lber can be a good combo in a 3-4 or as a Wil in a 4-3.
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                      • #12
                        With the draft less than a week away, time to do my second mock. This time, I tried to go more for what the teams might actually do. Trades are extremely approximate. Didn't want to spend too much time on them.

                        01. Browns: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming: I'm just going to go with collective wisdom here and assume the Browns will Browns this up.
                        02: Giants: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn St: A duh pick, IMO. Don't know why it took so long to become consensus.
                        03. Jets: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma: Again, a dumb pick, but what people say will happen.
                        04. Bills (from Browns): Sam Darnold, QB, USC: The Bills have two firsts and need a QB. Browns would be dumb to take Chubb here, and someone will want in front of Denver. Bills give both firsts and a fourth.
                        05. Broncos: Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State: With Case Keenum, I think the Broncos will stick to their playbook and just try to build a team. Chubb gives them an insane pass rush.
                        06. Colts: Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio St: I know Nelson makes sense here, but I just don't see teams taking a guard that early, especially the Colts, and especially in this OL class.
                        07. Bucs: Derwin James, S, Florida St: The Bucs need some DB help and James is a beast.
                        08. Bears: Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame: Guard just happens to be a big need for the Bears, so they go ahead and pull the trigger for Nelson.
                        09. Cardinals (from 49ers): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA: I'm not sure what's going to happen with Rosen in this scenario. Someone will trade up, to get in front of the Dolphins, but I don't know if anyone has the ammo to move up to 6, so he goes here. Cards give a 2019 first and receive a third.
                        10. Raiders: Roquan Smith, LB: Georgia: I'm not a fan, but people love Smith, and ILB is a need for the Raiders.
                        11. Dolphins: Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech: The Dolphins need help everywhere, and Edmunds gives them a good piece to build around on defense.
                        12. Browns (from Bills): Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/S, Alabama: The NFL is crazy if Fitzpatrick falls this far. IMO, he's the highest floored prospect in this class outside of Saquon and Chubb.
                        13. Reds: Vita Vea, NT, Washington: As good as he tested, DTs have gone later than expected in recent drafts. He only goes now because there aren't better fits.
                        14. Packers: Marcus Davenport, PR, UTSA: The Packers probably want a DB, but there aren't any better than Davenport.
                        15. 49ers (from Cards): Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU: Sutton is the best receiver in the class, and it gives Garoppolo a target to grow with.
                        16. Patriots (from Ravens): Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame: The dropoff from McGlinchey to the next OT is huge, so the Pats use their ammo to get him ahead of three teams that might. Ravens get two firsts and give up their second.
                        17. Chargers: Daron Payne, DT, Alabama: The Chargers need an inside DL to give some run support. Payne is better than Vea, so he's a deal here.
                        18. Titans (from Seahawks): Harold Landry, DE, Boston College: The Titans need a pass rusher badly, and this class doesn't have many. They give up a second to Seattle.
                        19. Cowboys: Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama: This pick is too popular to actually happen, but it makes a lot of sense.
                        20. Lions: Derrius Guice, RB, Georgia: Lions could go a lot of ways here, but Guice is liked and he is a stud.
                        21. Bengals: Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP: The best OL left on the board for a team than needs multiple upgrades there.
                        22. Steelers (from Browns): Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise St: The Steelers give away some future picks to leap up and grab an ILB to replace Shazier.
                        23. Ravens (from Pats): Mike Gisecki, TE, Penn St: I still will be surprised if Gisecki isn't one of the first TEs off the board. Blocking isn't that important for what he brings as a matchup.
                        24. Panthers: Joseph Jackson, CB, Iowa: I don't know how all the other corners slipped this far, but the Panthers are happy about it.
                        25. Seahawks (from Titans): Connor Williams, OT, Texas: The Seahawks keep trying to find OL help to keep Wilson upright.
                        26. Falcons: Maurice Hearst, DT, Michigan: The best DT on the board, and a better fit than Bryan.
                        27. Saints: Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina: The Saints need a tight end, and the top on most boards is still there.
                        28. Browns (from Steelers): Sony Michel, RB, Georgia: The Browns missed out on Saquon, but Michel is a good consolation prize.
                        29. Jaguars: Christian Kirk, WR, TAMU: The Jaguars have next to nothing at receiver, so they take the best option left.
                        30. Ravens (from Patriots): James Daniels, C, Iowa: The Ravens take one of the best players left, who also gives them a needed OL upgrade.
                        31. Vikings: Isaiah Wynn, OL, Georgia: The Vikings need help all over the OL, so Wynn is a perfect fit.
                        32. Eagles: Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA: The Eagles are pretty stacked, but they do need an eventual LT replacement. Miller needs time IMO anyway.

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                        • #13
                          And the Titans draft with no trades:

                          1. Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio St: Too many connections between the Titans and OSU for this not to happen if Landry isn't there.
                          2. Darius Leonard, ILB, South Carolina St: The Titans have shown a lot of interest in him and Nwosu, but given how much Robinson likes small school guys, I'm going with Leonard.
                          3. Folorunsu Fatukasi, DT, UConn: Behind Casey and Jones, the Titans have David King and practice bodies. They need better depth, and have been connected to him, Bilal Nichols, and Andrew Brown a lot.
                          4. Brett Toth, OT, Army: Given Conklin's injury, I'd be surprised if the Titans didn't take a tackle in the middle rounds.
                          5. Damon Webb, S, Ohio St: Depth safety and his position coach in college is now the same job with the Titans.
                          6. Joshua Frazier, DT, Alabama: Titans follow Alabama, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a flier on one of their backups.

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                          • #14
                            Indeed, very interesting thread

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