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  • Minnesota Vikings Mock Selections...

    Thoughts? Comments?

    I'm dying to know how you guys thought I did!

    Round 1 (17)
    QB Brian Brohm - Louisville

    I know most draft "experts" seem to think the Viking's biggest need is at DE. However, while I will acknowledge that there is a need there, the cupboard certainly isn't bare. The Vikings have a few good (but not great) DE's in Erasmus James, Brian Robinson and Ray Edwards. At this point in the draft, with Long, Gholston, Merling and Harvey off the board, in my opinion, there isn't really another DE worthy of a 1st round selection in this rather weak DE class. That makes my choice extremely easy.

    Whether the Vikings organization wants to admit it publically or not, their biggest need by far is at the QB position, where the cupboard is as bare as it gets. Last year, the Viking defense was the strength of the team, and with the exception of Adrian "All-Day" Peterson, the offense was atrocious... mainly due to horrible QB play. Brohm provides and immediate and drastic upgrade to the position.

    Brohm wowed scouts at the combine and his pro day by throwing his usual extremely accurate passes. He was the only QB at the combine to not miss a single throw. He has a great arm, not a howitzer like Flacco, but of the QB's in the combine he had the second best arm strength. He ran a solid 40 at his Pro Day, siliencing the critics on his running speed. Plus he had the best Wonderlic score of all 2008 NFL combine players. With his hyper-accurate throwing ability, incredible football smarts, excellent arm and ability to buy time by moving in the pocket, he is the perfect fit for the Vikings WCO.


    Round 2 (47)
    DE Lawrence Jackson - USC

    Jackson is one of the top 5 DE's in the draft, I had him listed ahead of other DE's that have been taken already. He's a high-motor prospect that should be able to step in and bolster the Vikings defense right out of the gate. Could stand to be just a tad bit quicker off of the edge, but has ideal size and strength and he does all of the right things to break up the passing game. Is stout against the run as well, so he'll fit in with Kevin Williams and Pat Williams quite well in the Vikings "You ain't gonna run the ball!" defense. Faced constant double and triple teams in college, and that is going to come to an end in the pros with the attention that's drawn inside to the Williams duo. So, I think he''ll be very productive with the Vikings, and I think I got a bit of a steal here at pick 47.


    Round 3 (73)
    WR Jordy Nelson - Kansas State

    This was a tough pick for me because there were so many good players still on the board. But I had to pull the trigger on Nelson because not only did he fall to me, you've just got to love this kid. He's got good speed, excellent size, great hands, and a humble attitude. In my opinion, he's the most precise and reliable route-runner in the draft, having already established himself as someone who knows how to out-position and box-out defensive backs, which is an invaluable trait when going to the next level, and one that some receivers just never develop. This kid went from being a walk-on from small town America, to be being an All-American star as a senior. He finished second in the nation in both receptions (122) and receiving yards (1,606).

    Need proof that he's the real deal? Check out this video...
    Jordy Nelson makes Aqib Talib his bizzich.

    I figure he helps bolster a WR corps in Minnesota that could use some good, young talent. Since the teams major need positions were already largely addressed with my previous selections, I figure it's time to add quality depth whereever I can. I think Nelson could push Bobby Wade and Robert Ferguson right away for the 3rd or 4th receiver spot next to Rice and Berrian.


    Round 3 (82)
    OT Duane Brown - Virginia Tech

    Brown is one of the most athletic OT's in this years draft. He finished in the top 5 among offensive tackles in most of the combine workouts. His technique still has room for improvement, but his athleticism is outstanding and his size is excellent. He was projected as either a late 2nd to early 3rd round pick, just about everywhere, so I feel very fortunate to be able to take him this late in the 3rd. Brown will fill a need for the Vikings, as they do need some help on the right side of their line. Brown will add much needed depth there, and he should immediately push for a starting spot at either right tackle, or possibly right guard.


    Round 4 (123)
    C Steve Justice - Wake Forest

    At this point in the draft, I've filled all of the major needs that the Vikings have, and so I'm looking largely at value and still addressing minor needs. While the Center position isn't something the organization has a need for going into the 2008 season, it's likely something they will need going into 2009. All-pro center Matt Birk is turning 33 and his contract is up next year as well. While I hope and pray that he stays healthy, and is re-signed with the team going into 2009, it's a good idea to add depth at the position and it certainly wouldn't hurt to add a smart and versitile athlete like Steve Justice into the mix. He would add much needed depth on the line, and could push for the starting right guard position going into 2008. If the team is lucky enough to re-sign Birk, it's feasible that he could continue to play there in the future.

    Justice was the anchor on Wake's offensive line while in college and was the recipient of numerous awards, including the ACC's Jacob's Blocking Trophy. He is one of those players that I've had my eye on all through the draft, and I expecting him to go in round 3, so I feel very fortunate to be able to take him here.


    Round 5 (155)
    SS Craig Steltz – LSU

    While buried on the LSU depth chart behind LaRon Landry in 2006, Craig Steltz was once viewed as a player who was as nothing more than a savvy overachiever who made up for his lack of athletic ability with smart gameplay. He has since shattered that misguided believe and has risen to the top of the 2008 Safety rankings for the NFL draft, with most draft experts having him ranked as the 4th best player at the position. Steltz flew under the rader of many scouts due to the fact that he was Unable to participate in the Senior Bowl or the Combine due to a shoulder injury suffered in the National Championship game. However, during the LSU Pro Day, Steltz impressed scouts with a 4.52 40 time and a 35 inch vertical (a test designed to show explosiveness) which was even better than WR Early Doucet.

    Steltz has superb size, an excellent frame and superior instincts. He's one of those players who has a knack for being around the ball. Stout against the run. Superior hands and ball skills. A sure tackler who is also known for laying bone-crushing hits. Has a warrior mentality.

    The Vikings have only Eric Frampton and Michael Boulware backing up starters Darren Sharper and Madieu Williams... which is a significant drop-off in talent levels should either of the starters suffer an injury. Given the importance of the Saftey position in the Cover 2 defense that the Vikings run, the presense of a smart, athletic and ball-hawking power-hitter like Steltz will be very valuable.


    Round 6 (182)
    DE Darrell Robertson - Georgia Tech
    Darrell Robertson is the picture perfect definition of a true pass rusher. The 6-5 Georgia Tech product tallied 6.5 sacks and 16.0 tackles for loss as a senior. A year earlier, he racked up three sacks and seven tackles for loss. During his sophomore season, he was the main backup at defensive end and often came in on obvious passing situations. Even when Robertson was just a sophomore, if the Yellow Jackets wanted somebody to get to the quarterback, he was their man. Needless to say, I feel that he fits what the Vikings needs are quite well. He, along with Lawrence Jackson, should immediately help bolster the Vikings pass rushing situation, hopefully turning what was once a weakness, into a strength.


    Round 6 (193)
    WR Todd Blythe - Iowa State

    Todd Blythe only had a 4.61 40, but he has superb route running ability, and like Jordy Nelson, he's already mastered the art of how to block out and out-position defensive backs. Not to mention the fact that he's 6-5 with the some of the best hands in the entire draft. Blythe put up fantastic numbers in college, owning every Iowa State recieving record including receiving yards (3,096), receptions (176) and touchdown receptions (31). It really gives you pause when thinking about those numbers, because he never had a decent QB, or even an average offense during his entire college career... but still put up those kind of numbers? That's crazy. Sleeper pick of the draft? I'd like to think so.


    Round 7 (209)
    K Taylor Mehlhaff - Wisconsin

    Although there were a lot of good players left to choose from, I decided that I would take Mehlhaff because he's far and away the best kicker in this draft class.

    Although Ryan Longwell is a decent NFL kicker, he's certainly not great so I figure it's time to heat up the kicker competition in Minnesota. If Mehlhaff lives up to his resume and unseats Longwell, a guy like Longwell would be easy enough to trade for either players or future draft picks. So this selection would be win-win for the organization.

    Mehlhaff has a super-strong leg and is very consistent as a kicker. He is used to kicking in bad weather as well. His leg strength and accuracy should extend the overall field goal range that the Vikings have to work with in 2008. And considering their anemic passing game (assuming Tarvaris Jackson's somehow keeps the starting job for the start of the season) they will probably need it. He should have no problem taking Longwell's role as the field goal kicker for the Vikes. However, if for some reason he fails to oust Longwell, he'd likely make the roster as a kick return specialist either way.
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    WFB Comments on Vikings @ Steelers Game Rigging
    PuppyPuncher:"It sure was nice enough of Roger Goodell to let the refs from Ark-Florida officiate the Vikings-Steelers game"
    NoNonsenseCoach:"As a Steelers fan living in Pittsburgh I can still admit that tripping penalty was a complete ghost call."
    Simonds:"The tripping call was awful, yes, but there were a number of other absurd calls that went against the Vikings, including a DEFENSIVE delay of game penalty against the Vikings only called after a failed attempt to convert a third and 2 by the Steelers. Even the commentators were utterly floored that the refs made that call."
    Wraith36444:"A shady tripping call on Minnesota essentially gave the game to the Steelers. The Vikings were the better team, but it is too hard to beat a decent team and the refs. Oh and Harvin is the man."
    MaineMan:"I have to agree that it was an awful call and that it changed the outcome. Overall a great game by the Vikes and tragic that the well-deserved victory was stolen away like that."
    PaddyPatriot:"I've seen this play and I have to agree, I can't believe they called it tripping"
    Johndoe:"You know the officiating is bad when a Steeler's fan, like myself, thinks it was pretty bad."
    Steelers_Pens_Fan:"I will admit that the whole "tripping" thing probably shouldn't have been a flag."
    ZN0rseman:"It's great to know that good old fashioned pro football game rigging is still alive and well in America."
    Klunker18:"I'm with Z on this one. Definitely one of those games that makes you wonder if the NFL wants certain teams to win."
    TRICKaz"I agree that was a BS call"
    InjuredReserve:"Have yet to hear anyone say it was the right call. Seems as if the Vikings were cheated a bit."
    Eagles4Life:"Coaches just need to be able to challenge penalties"
    EL_Guapo:"The tripping call was bad, the delay of game was stupid Either way, the Vikings showed they are a top team."
    EllijayFalconsFan:"The tripping penalty was rediculous."
    Archon095:"Even as a Steeler fan I agree that the call was bull."
    BroncosCon:"I'm sorry that was a total bull**** call and it changed the outcome of the game. Pittsburgh still won, but it was almost like Denver winning at Cincy."

    Tony Dungy:"The Vikings are just one bad tripping penalty away from being undefeated.
    Jon Gruden:"That was just a bad, bad call. It cost the Vikings an important win at Pittsburgh, and it could really hurt them in the post season."

  • #2
    I don't know that much about the Vikings but I will give it a shot.

    QB Brian Brohm - Louisville

    I think Brohm will be a good NFL QB. I don't think that Minn is going to draft a QB in round 1 though.

    DE Lawrence Jackson - USC

    I like this pick. Minn needs a DE and Jackson is a good one.

    WR Jordy Nelson - Kansas State

    I'm having a tough time getting a read on Nelson. I think he'll either be a major stud or a huge bust. Only time will tell, this could be a steal, or a waisted pick.

    OT Duane Brown - Virginia Tech

    I'm not sure if the Vikings run a zone blocking scheme.....If they do then this is a good pick, If not then Brown may struggle.

    C Steve Justice - Wake Forest

    If the Vikings need a center then Justice is a good one to pick at this spot.

    SS Craig Steltz – LSU

    I love Steltz....I was hoping he would fall to the next Cards pick. I think that he is very underated and will have a good, not great, but good NFL career.

    DE Darrell Robertson - Georgia Tech

    I thought about making a Stanford Keglar joke here, but I figure that's a door best left shut. Robertson seems to have all the measurable but never turned it into production in college until his senior year. Maybe the right coaching will turn him into more than just a situational player.

    WR Todd Blythe - Iowa State

    Seems to be a big red zone guy. He's a typical 6th round receiver, some of them make it...some of them don't. He has great size though.

    K Taylor Mehlhaff - Wisconsin

    He's a kicker....'nuff said
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    • #3
      Any draft that doesn't include us getting Jared Allen in a trade sucks!!

      Anyways, if we somehow don't get him I still wouldn't really like this draft especially the 1st round pick.

      QB Brian Brohm - Louisville

      0% Chance this happens. Brian Brohm might end up being a solid QB, but the Vikes are commited to TJ and Childress already said he is looking to draft a developmental guy late in the draft.

      DE Lawrence Jackson - USC

      Obviously if we don't go DE round 1 this would be a solid but not great pick. Would rather have Calais Campbell if avalible.

      WR Jordy Nelson - Kansas State

      Not a bad pick at all

      OT Duane Brown - Virginia Tech

      Great pick

      C Steve Justice - Wake Forest

      Cook is the future center, we don't need to draft another one.

      SS Craig Steltz – LSU

      Don't like it

      DE Darrell Robertson - Georgia Tech

      Very good pick

      WR Todd Blythe - Iowa State

      2 WR's? It won't happen

      K Taylor Mehlhaff - Wisconsin

      Horrible pick, no need to waste a pick on a K....Longwell still has 4 good years left.

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      • #4
        You and I both agree that Brian Brohm is awesome, and Duane Brown was a huge steal.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
          QB Brian Brohm - Louisville
          0% Chance this happens. Brian Brohm might end up being a solid QB, but the Vikes are commited to TJ and Childress already said he is looking to draft a developmental guy late in the draft.
          I dont' think Brohm would take the starting role away from Jackson until mid-season, so drafting him doesn't hurt Jackson's status as the starter by default. Childress has not publically committed to Jackson, and if there is one thing we desperately need on the team, it's competition at the QB position... something we haven't had since we made the horrid lunge for Jackson on draft day. It's time to fact the facts, Jackson just sucks, and if we don't draft a QB who can start in 2009 we'll be stuck with him under center again next year.


          Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
          DE Lawrence Jackson - USC

          Obviously if we don't go DE round 1 this would be a solid but not great pick. Would rather have Calais Campbell if avalible.
          Campbell showed up fat and slow to the NFL combine which raises serious questions about his work-ethic. If he wasn't motivated to stay in shape by the prospect of millions of dollers in contract money he would earn just by a good showing infront of NFL scouts at the combine, how hard do you think he'll work once he's cashed a check for millions of dollars? So, even though there is no doubt that Campbell is very talented, there is no way I would take a guy like that over an equally talented guy like Lawrence Jackson with outstanding work ethic.

          Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
          WR Jordy Nelson - Kansas State

          Not a bad pick at all

          OT Duane Brown - Virginia Tech

          Great pick

          C Steve Justice - Wake Forest

          Cook is the future center, we don't need to draft another one.
          Cook projects better as a guard, we knew that when we drafted him. On top of that, I feel like I got the best Center in the entire draft with this pick. Considering the Vikings have a need at this position for 2009, there is no way I could turn down a guy with Steve Justice's ability this late in the draft.

          Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
          SS Craig Steltz – LSU

          Don't like it
          Seriously??? What do you not like about Steltz as a 5th round pick? I thought that was a super-steal.

          Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
          DE Darrell Robertson - Georgia Tech

          Very good pick
          You won't believe how tough this pick was to secure.

          Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
          WR Todd Blythe - Iowa State

          2 WR's? It won't happen
          Maybe not, but you just have love both of those WR selections.

          Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
          K Taylor Mehlhaff - Wisconsin

          Horrible pick, no need to waste a pick on a K....Longwell still has 4 good years left.
          I totally disagree with that. We got the best kicker in the draft class. While I agree, Longwell can hang-on in the league for another 4-5 years, he's not a great kicker... he's just average. Taylor Mehlhaff would likely oust Longwell with ease and he would increase the range inwhich we could kick field goals by 10 yards. You can't tell me that you don't think that would be a very valuable assett to the team. On top of that, we could easily trade Longwell to other kicker-desperate teams who weren't able to get Mehlhaff in the draft for more players, or 2009 draft picks. That's win-win baby!
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          WFB Comments on Vikings @ Steelers Game Rigging
          PuppyPuncher:"It sure was nice enough of Roger Goodell to let the refs from Ark-Florida officiate the Vikings-Steelers game"
          NoNonsenseCoach:"As a Steelers fan living in Pittsburgh I can still admit that tripping penalty was a complete ghost call."
          Simonds:"The tripping call was awful, yes, but there were a number of other absurd calls that went against the Vikings, including a DEFENSIVE delay of game penalty against the Vikings only called after a failed attempt to convert a third and 2 by the Steelers. Even the commentators were utterly floored that the refs made that call."
          Wraith36444:"A shady tripping call on Minnesota essentially gave the game to the Steelers. The Vikings were the better team, but it is too hard to beat a decent team and the refs. Oh and Harvin is the man."
          MaineMan:"I have to agree that it was an awful call and that it changed the outcome. Overall a great game by the Vikes and tragic that the well-deserved victory was stolen away like that."
          PaddyPatriot:"I've seen this play and I have to agree, I can't believe they called it tripping"
          Johndoe:"You know the officiating is bad when a Steeler's fan, like myself, thinks it was pretty bad."
          Steelers_Pens_Fan:"I will admit that the whole "tripping" thing probably shouldn't have been a flag."
          ZN0rseman:"It's great to know that good old fashioned pro football game rigging is still alive and well in America."
          Klunker18:"I'm with Z on this one. Definitely one of those games that makes you wonder if the NFL wants certain teams to win."
          TRICKaz"I agree that was a BS call"
          InjuredReserve:"Have yet to hear anyone say it was the right call. Seems as if the Vikings were cheated a bit."
          Eagles4Life:"Coaches just need to be able to challenge penalties"
          EL_Guapo:"The tripping call was bad, the delay of game was stupid Either way, the Vikings showed they are a top team."
          EllijayFalconsFan:"The tripping penalty was rediculous."
          Archon095:"Even as a Steeler fan I agree that the call was bull."
          BroncosCon:"I'm sorry that was a total bull**** call and it changed the outcome of the game. Pittsburgh still won, but it was almost like Denver winning at Cincy."

          Tony Dungy:"The Vikings are just one bad tripping penalty away from being undefeated.
          Jon Gruden:"That was just a bad, bad call. It cost the Vikings an important win at Pittsburgh, and it could really hurt them in the post season."

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          • #6
            I'll approach this question from the point of view of a Lions fan, and how much better the Vikes can compete with us this season.

            Brohm - no immediate help in round 1. Thanks. But that doesn't mean it was a bad pick long term.

            Jackson - good pick, you need to replace Udeze.

            Nelson - good pick to replace Williamson

            Brown - you stole him from me!

            Justice - Steltz was good pick in the next round, but I would have gone for a safety here given the losses to free agency.

            Steltz - see above

            Robertson - great value

            Blythe - you needed more than on WR so I agree with this pick.

            Mehlhaff - Sorry but think this one is wasted. Longwell is a pro and is not going anywhere, but it's a round 7 so you didn't waste much.

            All in all a good draft. The things that I questioned above are relatively trivial. This could end up to be an outstanding draft. We'll know for sure in about 3 years.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by animal52 View Post
              Justice - Steltz was good pick in the next round, but I would have gone for a safety here given the losses to free agency.
              You know, I thought the same thing. In fact, I was targeting a saftey there but I noticed that very few safties had been targeted by that point in the draft, so I knew I'd get a good saftey regardless. Plus, I felt that Justice was the best Center in the draft, so I decided to pull the trigger on him as I was sure he would be gone by the time I picked again. I didn't think Steltz would be there either, but I had planned to add the best Saftey available, with the next pick and then get S Caleb Campbell - Army, in round 6. It turns out I didn't need to get Campbell though, as Steltz somehow fell to me with my next selection.

              As for the Melhalf selection... look at it from this perspective. Was there a more valuable player available in the 7th round? Nope.

              With that selection I could afford to trade either Melhalf or Longwell for as much as a 3rd round pick in 2009, or for starting caliber players from several teams who are desperate for help in their kicking game. Several teams in the draft were unhappy that I took Melhalf when I did. Overall, I felt it was the best value pick that could be made at that point.

              Thanks for the input you guys!
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              WFB Comments on Vikings @ Steelers Game Rigging
              PuppyPuncher:"It sure was nice enough of Roger Goodell to let the refs from Ark-Florida officiate the Vikings-Steelers game"
              NoNonsenseCoach:"As a Steelers fan living in Pittsburgh I can still admit that tripping penalty was a complete ghost call."
              Simonds:"The tripping call was awful, yes, but there were a number of other absurd calls that went against the Vikings, including a DEFENSIVE delay of game penalty against the Vikings only called after a failed attempt to convert a third and 2 by the Steelers. Even the commentators were utterly floored that the refs made that call."
              Wraith36444:"A shady tripping call on Minnesota essentially gave the game to the Steelers. The Vikings were the better team, but it is too hard to beat a decent team and the refs. Oh and Harvin is the man."
              MaineMan:"I have to agree that it was an awful call and that it changed the outcome. Overall a great game by the Vikes and tragic that the well-deserved victory was stolen away like that."
              PaddyPatriot:"I've seen this play and I have to agree, I can't believe they called it tripping"
              Johndoe:"You know the officiating is bad when a Steeler's fan, like myself, thinks it was pretty bad."
              Steelers_Pens_Fan:"I will admit that the whole "tripping" thing probably shouldn't have been a flag."
              ZN0rseman:"It's great to know that good old fashioned pro football game rigging is still alive and well in America."
              Klunker18:"I'm with Z on this one. Definitely one of those games that makes you wonder if the NFL wants certain teams to win."
              TRICKaz"I agree that was a BS call"
              InjuredReserve:"Have yet to hear anyone say it was the right call. Seems as if the Vikings were cheated a bit."
              Eagles4Life:"Coaches just need to be able to challenge penalties"
              EL_Guapo:"The tripping call was bad, the delay of game was stupid Either way, the Vikings showed they are a top team."
              EllijayFalconsFan:"The tripping penalty was rediculous."
              Archon095:"Even as a Steeler fan I agree that the call was bull."
              BroncosCon:"I'm sorry that was a total bull**** call and it changed the outcome of the game. Pittsburgh still won, but it was almost like Denver winning at Cincy."

              Tony Dungy:"The Vikings are just one bad tripping penalty away from being undefeated.
              Jon Gruden:"That was just a bad, bad call. It cost the Vikings an important win at Pittsburgh, and it could really hurt them in the post season."

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