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    This post will be updated with my latest Big Board throughout the season.

    NMD’s Final Big Board 2013 - Top 250

    1. Star Lotulelei DT – Big, strong, quick, and versatile enough to play the 0, 1, 3, or 5. I think he’s going to be one of the best DTs in this league in a few years.
    2. Luke Joeckel LT – Great kick step and feet, doesn’t get beat on the speed rush. Liked him as a top 10 prospect coming into the year showed all the same skills in superior SEC. A little bit susceptible to bull rush from the most powerful DEs. I put him a notch below the elite category OT prospects over the years but easy 10 years as a top 10 LT in the game.
    3. Chance Warmack OG – Power and technique, doesn’t get beat when he gets hands on someone. Moves surprisingly well for his size and should be able to dominate in any scheme. I think he’ll be a Steve Hutchinson HOF when it’s all said and done.
    4. Barkevious Mingo DE/ROLB – I have him much higher than most do at this point and actually 1 spot higher than I did preseason. He needs to be put in the right situation and has many weaknesses that need to be covered up. He’s a younger, cleaner Bruce Irvin who should easily be a double digit sack pressure maker for his whole career. If he can get in a LEO role that would be ideal although I do think he is a much better ROLB prospect then Irvin was so he could do either. If he can just get enough strength and technique to not be a liability vs the run he can justify this ranking and I’ll give him a couple years to do it while specializing in getting the defense off the field on 3rd down.
    5. Johnthan Banks CB – Love this kid as a prospect and think he can develop into one of the best CBs in the league. Love the length and ball skills, like everything else he brings to the table. I don’t know why he’s got knocked down so much. He’s got decent enough speed and does everything well. See some Richard Sherman in him if he can up the physicalness.
    6. Eric Fisher OT – Took me a while to warm up to him after hearing about him so late but yeah he does everything well and should be a long term reliable LT in the league. Stronger then Joeckel and I could see why some people would like him better but I prefer Joeckel because pass protection is the most important asset for a LT.
    7. Dion Jordan ROLB – Freakish athlete on the level with Mingo but with amazing height and length. I think he has a ways to go as a pass rusher at DE but he has the skills as a SLB I think he can effectively play in the 4-3 with pass rush potential to be a specialist. I really think he’d be a great 3-4 rush OLB where his great all around skills will be completely utilized in coverage, vs the run, and rushing the passer. I think he’ll disappoint if you’re expecting a 15 sack a year guy but if want a very good all around player who should become a 10 sack a year guy with a developed pass rush.
    8. Sharrif Floyd DT – I watched him a lot in 2011 playing mostly 5 tech where he was mostly on contain duty. My first impression without watching in depth I didn’t see him get much pressure but upon further review it seems he was schemed to contain against mobile QBs and when let lose he truly causes havoc on the interior. He can play the 5 tech well but his position value is at the 3 tech where big time burst and feet can get pressure on the QB and disrupt the running game.
    9. Sheldon Richardson DT – Great effort and athleticism for a 300lb DT always chasing down the play. Reminds me of Fletcher Cox with his runaway train mentality off the line. Less versatile then other top DTs but put at the 3 tech in a 4-3 he can have a huge effect as a penetrating force. Love his passion and attitude on the field even when it leads to some bonehead penalties.
    10. Geno Smith QB – I still think he’s a Franchise QB. Has shown all the tools he needs to be a Superbowl caliber QB if put in the situation.
    11. DeMarcus Milliner CB – Very good CB with good feet and instincts. Rarely makes mistakes and gives up big plays even less. I don’t think he plays up to his timed speed in the high 4.3s but has plenty enough to be a good CB. I don’t see him as an elite CB prospect most do though and question how he’ll match up with the best of the best at WR. I think he’s easily better then Stephon Gilmore from last year’s class.
    12. Jonathan Cooper OG – Crazy good movement skills for such a big guy while no slouch in pass protection. Can be one of the top Guards in the league and I think he’s a better prospect then DeCastro and the Pouncey’s. Definite top 20 value in this draft.
    13. Cordarrelle Patterson WR – Amazing weapon with an elite skill set where I can look past his inconsistent hands and limited experience. I don’t know or even care if he ever becomes a true #1 type WR in the league as a true playmaker I believe he’ll add wins to the team wherever he goes. With his speed I think he can become a deep threat like Torrey Smith has while being a Percy Harvin type weapon with plays created for him to use his elite after the catch skills.
    14. Jarvis Jones ROLB – I’m knocking him down 10 spots, not for his bad pro day but for his spinal stenosis. With such a scary injury I’m taking Mingo and Jordan ahead of him for sure but I still think he can be a great player in the league. He’s got a true knack for getting to the QB that the others do not and is tailor made for the ROLB position in a 3-4. I don’t want him in coverage too much but he can do some while specializing on pressure and chasing down RBs.
    15. Sam Montgomery DE – I’m knocking him down 10 spots as well but this is for character concerns. Admitting to taking the cupcakes less serious is concerning but in most games I’ve watched he’s always the DL chasing down the play. I think he’s the best 4-3 DE in this class and love his length and power with the athleticism to set the edge vs the run and put pressure on the QB. I know this will probably my most criticized ranking but I think he’ll be a very effective NFL player who will work hard and keep his head on straight.
    16. Ezekial Ansah DE – Awesome burst to close on the play. Surprisingly effective vs the run with his strength and when he gets by the OL and near the ball he makes the play. I don’t think he would be as effective in a full time role as a 3-4 OLB and fits the 4-3 DE much better. I hope he gets the coaching and the seasoning to become an effective every down player. Boom or bust guy but the boom is worth this rating to me.
    17. Alec Ogletree WLB – Great length, speed, and athleticism. Ideal fit at WLB in a 4-3 defense where he can just run around and chase guys down. Can play zones like a safety and cover backs and TEs man up. Has a weakness taking on blocks but being put on the weakside lessens that fact and lets him play to his skill set.
    18. Tavon Austin WR – I’m looking for playmakers and game changers and this guy is the epitome. Playing the slot, RB, KR, PR getting him touches all over will bring his value to the table. Elite speed combined with elite quickness is very hard to come by but the weight is of slight concern. I hope one of the top level offensive minds takes him and innovates the offense for him. If he can be durable he’ll be well worth this ranking in the long run.
    19. Desmond Trufant CB – Very good CB who does everything well. Has the best feet and close in this class to me with very good ball skills. Fine vs the run and a solid tackler. Elite competitive fire with great bloodlines and was raised to play the position. Great in man, good in zone, and can play inside and out. No real weaknesses make him a long time #1 CB in the league.
    20. Bjoern Werner DE – I actually like the 2011 version better than the 2012 one where he had more size and strength to be very good against the run while still being an effective rusher. He seemed to have the speed this year but I don’t see him as an OLB in the 3-4 and I think he should put the weight back on to be a 4-3 LE.
    21. Justin Hunter WR – With his skill set I’m worried I’m still ranking him too low. His speed, length, routes, hands, and jump ball ability makes him such a weapon. I don’t know whether to call him a poor man’s AJ Green or Randy Moss. He should be an easy #1 WR in this league if he can get to full health and stay there with potential to be truly elite. The top “pure or classic” WR prospect.
    22. Xavier Rhodes CB – Love his size, length and physical style of play. I think he can be a better Brandon Browner with his good speed. I want him to bump and run as much as possible so the more man coverage the better. He may struggle vs the Mike Wallace’s of the world and probably can’t play the slot very effectively which is why Trufant takes the advantage but in the right scheme he can be a very effective CB.
    23. Eric Reid S – My top Safety, I call him a poor man’s Eric Berry who can do everything. His 2012 did disappoint from his 2011 when I thought he was going to take the next step to be a near elite safety prospect. His elite physical tools combined with his reported work ethic I think he’ll take his game to the next level in the NFL. I can see him as a SS covering TEs and making plays vs the run in the box or FS covering the backend flying to make plays on the ball. Definite 1st rounder for me.
    24. Cornellius Carradine DE – I have to say I was really skeptical when a guy replacing Brandon Jenkins and opposite of Bjoern Werner came in and started racking up sacks but when watching he was damn effective and opened up Werner probably more than Werner did for him. Should probably be about 10 spots higher without the ACL injury but it’s hard to draft someone that high before recovering fully. He’s got the speed and strength of to be a real effective rushing the passer and playing the run. Surprisingly skilled for being a backup (expected him to be a Lavar Edwards who’s effective not so skilled).
    25. Robert Woods WR – Solid, solid, solid, no weaknesses. Reggie Wayne type player who I expect to have a Reggie Wayne type career where he spends time as a great #2 then evolves into a very good #1.
    26. Johnathan Hankins DT – Good athlete with a big body, really like his quick feet. Lined up all over and showed effectiveness as a 1, 3, and 5 giving him a fit for most defenses. I think he’ll be more consistent in the NFL where he’ll be asked to go 100% with more limited reps.
    27. Damontre Moore DE/OLB – Knocked him about 10 spots from my last big board with questions on athleticism and off field work ethic. But on the field he has an excellent motor and just makes plays on the ball. I love his long arms and expect this young kid to develop into a real effective player that is a good fit in the 4-3 or 3-4.
    28. Keenan Allen WR – I loved Keenan preseason with his size and make you miss ability. With his injury questions that left him with terrible workout numbers and a reported failed drug test at the combine I’m going to take some of the other WRs ahead of him. I like that he works well out of the slot at his size and think he can be a Colston type player.
    29. Matt Barkley QB – I’m still giving him mid 1st round draft value ranking him here. I think he’ll be a long term starting QB who could win Superbowls in the perfect situation but not a sure fire upper echelon QB prospect.
    30. DeAndre Hopkins WR – Solid, solid, solid, no weaknesses. Much like Robert Woods I see no chance of him washing out and will spend his career as an upper echelon #2 or possibly a #1 guy but with his average size/measureables I think some of the other guys get picked before him.
    31. Arthur Brown OLB – Really like Arthur Brown. Top notch speed for a LB combined with good strength and knowing what to do. 3 down LB with his best fit as a WLB where he can use his range but can take on blockers much better than WLBs Ogletree and Greene and could play on the inside if need be. Should have a real good career but I don’t know if he will really transcend a defense like Ogletree could.
    32. Lane Johnson OT – Obviously I feel Johnson is being over rated as a top 10 prospect. Limited experience on the Oline and playing in Oklahoma’s goofy offense gives me pause even if he did look pretty solid during the season. I don’t understand how elite athleticism pushes O lineman up so much. I expect him to struggle his rookie year especially if he starts out at LT but does have the potential for a good career.
    33. Kenny Vaccaro FS – I know I have him ranked way lower than most people but I do like him. I like his speed that gives him range when tackling or with the ball in the air and he can match up in man with WRs and TEs. I wish he would have played the back end more often to get a feel to how he reacts but I’m willing to bet he’ll be good back there. He’s no Earl Thomas but a real good FS prospect.
    34. Zach Ertz TE – I really like Ertz, down the field he reminds me of Zach Miller if only he could get his blocking to that level. People are way down on his run blocking but I think Ertz is decent and easily better then Eifert, Reed, Escobar and McDonald with Travis Kelce head and shoulders above all he highly rated TEs. I really like his routes and how he seems to always get open and make the catch when it’s needed. I like Ertz as the best all around TE in this draft but I expect Eifert to be picked up before Ertz easily with his ball skills and ability to get up.
    35. Tyler Eifert TE – I know a lot of people have Eifert in the top 25 but for me I’m taking those top 6 WRs over a TE who I’m not real comfortable with inline. That’s not to say Eifert doesn’t have the potential to become a better run blocker as he always gives effort but I don’t trust him to win more often than not right now. That being said I think he may be the best TE to win a jump ball in the league besides Jimmy Graham starting out. His catch radius is outstanding and his hands don’t disappoint. He doesn’t get the separation Ertz does but he doesn’t need it with his ball skills. I expect him to come off the board between 25-30.
    36. Kawann Short DT – Really like Short to become a productive 3 tech. He doesn’t have the pure athleticism of Floyd and Richardson or the power of Star but I love his feet and ability to get skinny on a pass rush and a natural finding the RB. I think he could be a pass rushing 5 but I’m look for him to be best at the 3.
    37. Alex Okafor DE – A real good player who I think can threaten double digit sacks a season in the 4-3 but not a 3-4 fit for me. Good enough vs the run and seems to diagnose plays pretty well.
    38. Manti Teo LB – Solid player, I really like how he showed some skills defending the pass reading his zones well. Enough speed and athleticism to control inside the hashes and should be viable all 3 downs. My main knock is not the athleticism, it’s the question of will he be able to lead a group of men with them everything that has gone on. Prefer to put him in a 4-3 opposed to a 3-4.
    39. Eddie Lacy RB – Best RB in the class after Marcus Lattimore went down. I like his power with his surprising feet and good enough speed to make plays. He’s not nearly on Trent Richardson’s level but brings more than Mark Ingram to me. I’m not real worried about his heart or conditioning as was questioned at his pro day, watching him play he seemed to bring it all the time and every RB needs a 2nd to take some carries off to stay fresh. I expect him to be picked in the top 10ish of the 2nd round.
    40. Jordan Poyer CB – I’m not sure why Poyer as seemed to drop off the map after the senior bowl. A real good CB in every aspect, can play inside and out and matchup with different types of WRs. May never be a #1 CB but should be a starter throughout his career. Ability to play the slot is nice and not all the top CBs in this draft can do it, also brings good punt return abilities. A good consolation prize to Desmond Trufant as a real similar player 20 spots later.
    41. Jesse Williams NT – Unless you’re a dominating huge NT who will be a sure force in the 3-4 like Wilfork or Ngata I think your value is going to take a hit at the position. I’m not sure Jesse will be a dominant NT but he’s got the size, strength, and quickness to become one so the early 2nd round is solid value for him. I think he would do real well at 1 tech like and Brandon Mebane and a run stopping 5 tech as well so he has some versatility.
    42. Jonathan Cyprien S – Love the way he flies around the field. Strikes people when he makes tackles. Reminds me of Dashon Goldson and should be able to play FS or SS and would appeal most to teams that like interchangeable safeties.
    43. Margus Hunt DE – When he’s on he’s so impressive. His last two bowl games he looked unstoppable and with his insane measurable looked like an easy first round pick. But watching other games he struggles to provide consistent pressure, showed his rawness at the senior bowl and will be a 26 year old rookie. With all those factors I have him as a mid second round pick.
    44. Menelik Watson OT – I don’t know if he ever becomes a franchise LT and that’s why I have him ranked so low. But the potential of getting a LT mid 2nd is great value and he’s got plenty of tools.
    45. Markus Wheaton WR – Fast, smooth, good hands, and great effort leave little room for him to fail at the next level. Can play outside and inside and do both well while giving a nice speed deep threat. Should have a long starting career starting week 1.
    46. Sylvester Williams DT – Big, strong, and quick who can put pressure on the QB. His knocks are age and I think he’s a 3 or 1 in the 4-3 beating inside lineman for pressure and not really a 3-4 fit.
    47. Datone Jones DL – I do see Datone as a bit of a tweener between a true DE and 5 tech but I guess he could do either ok. I think he’s pretty highly over rated at this point and don’t think he’s a good enough pass rusher to warrant the 1st round pick most are giving him. I don’t see him as a sure fire guy at either spot though and think mid to late 2nd is best value.
    48. Khaseem Greene WLB – Team leader, solid speed/athletic ability and has the instincts make big plays. Definite 3 down LB but probably only has this value to 4-3 teams at WLB where they can keep OL off him to make plays.
    49. Larry Warford OG – Big powerful blocker on the inside who doesn’t get beat in pass pro. Good athlete for his size who can move to the second level but not on the level of the top 2 guys.
    50. Da’Rick Rogers WR – Too much skill to fall out of my top 50. Big, fast, and physical with strong hands to bring in tough balls in traffic. Has the Anquan Boldin mentality on the field going into traffic and always trying to break tackles plus much better speed and make you miss ability.
    51. Kevin Minter MLB – Probably too low for Minter as he is a real solid player but so many good players in this class. Does everything pretty well and lead a defense of stars. Can be a 3 down LB if need be and I expect him to be a tackling machine.
    52. Jamar Taylor CB – Like his physical nature and he seems bigger than he is. Can play inside and out which is valuable when you may not be a #1 CB so he’ll always have a big role no matter who the other two CBs are. I could see him being picked ahead over Poyer with his timed speed but I would put him a step below.
    53. Matt Elam S – Good player but has size limitations and plays a little out of control at times. I like big hitters at safety and he showed more speed than I thought he had at the combine.
    54. Ryan Nassib QB – I like Nassib but it’s hard to rank a QB if you don’t know if he’s going to be a good starter in the league. I love Nassib accuracy when he’s able to put velocity on his throws especially over the middle but when it comes to touch he can be hit and miss. He like his feet even though he does too much with them when he should just set and throw but I could see him moving like Brees in the pocket if it gets coached into him. He also brings the run element as he’s a pretty good athlete and from all accounts truly understands offense and how to be a QB. I’d take him early round 2 if I needed a QB and give him an Andy Dalton type of comparison.
    55. Blidi Wreh Wilson CB – More impressed with him the more I watched. Covers ground with good ball skills to get hands on balls at the high point especially on the deep ball. Tackles well and always willing to stick his nose in. I could see him becoming a #1 CB with some years of seasoning.
    56. Barrett Jones OL – A pretty far fall for Barrett from his preseason status with questions of his athleticism and the injury. I love the versatility of Jones being able to play any of the 5 positions on the Oline. I really think he’d be solid at RT or at any of the interior positions with his smarts and fundamentals to not make mistakes. He’s got enough strength and good feet to kick step the edge or move to the 2nd level from the interior.
    57. Chris Faulk OT – I had him around 15 overall preseason. A big guy who I do believe as the kick step to play LT at a high level. Doesn’t get overpowered in pass pro and a strong run blocker. If he comes back 100% from the knee I think he’ll be a huge steal even late round 2 as a real good LT.
    58. Travis Kelce TE – Real good all around TE. Love his blocking and is head and shoulders over every other upper echelon TE prospect in that regard in this class. Holds the edge real well vs LBs and even DEs. Good athlete with enough speed to make plays down field catching the ball with good routes and real good hands. I don’t know about the character concerns but I’m sure they’ll knock him down some. Zach Miller/ Heath Miller type of all around TE.
    59. TJ McDonald SS – Impressive physical specimen with the bloodlines and leadership you want in a safety. I like him better in the box where he can rack up tackles vs the run and cover TEs with his height, length, hops, and good enough speed. Probably don’t want him covering the backend vs speed too often but can do it when need be.
    60. DJ Fluker OT – I think DJ Fluker is the most over rated prospect in this year’s draft. He’s got no shot at LT with his slow feet and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gives too much up at RT and gets kicked into guard. He is a big strong mauler and those long arms are impressive but I’d rank him below James Carpenter and Cordy Glenn as prospects in similar molds. If a team has needs at RT and at OG and like him I could see him as a high 2nd rounder but if I just want a mauling OG I want Warford ahead of Fluker. I’m still going to be shocked if he goes in the first half of round 1, I just don’t see the value.
    61. Le’Veon Bell RB – Really like his workhorse mentality and how he uses his power to always fall forward. Plenty of agility to get through holes and enough speed to make plays. Probably the best hands at RB in the draft so he can play any and every down. Not all that much separating him from guys like Ball, Michael and Davis though so I wouldn’t draft him too high.
    62. Sean Porter OLB – Real good LB who can do a bit of everything. Can play in either the 3-4 or 4-3 on the outside. I like how he sets the edge well vs TEs when playing the run and sheds. Has the ability to cover TEs and RBs. A good tackler and blitzes well especially playing at about 230. Should start a whole lot of games in the league and having a place in most packages to stay on the field.
    63. Jon Jenkins NT – True space eating nose tackle. Not many people could block him one on one with his size and strength but it seemed sometimes when he got doubled he was content to hold his ground. Pretty good feet for being so heavy and has reportedly lost a lot of weight. I could easily see him becoming a real good NT in the league and outperforming this ranking.
    64. Robert Alford CB – Moves backwards better than anybody else in this class and most pro CBs I’ve seen. It’s crazy how fast he is in his backpedal and how quick he can move side to side shadowing WRs. Real strong press combined with his feet makes press corner his ideal fit and those feet will work well in the slot as well. His speed is what you want in a pro corner and pretty good reactions to the ball in front of him and deep. The question is the level of competition he’s been facing.
    65. Quinton Patton WR – Guy with a lot of skills and gets open as well as anyone in the class. Seemingly has a top competitive attitude and compares himself to Chad Johnson which is a good comp I think as a route runner and real good hands.
    66. Kyle Long OG – I think he’s rated a little high on most people’s boards when he’s an older draftee that probably will have to play guard in the NFL and probably won’t be an immediate starter. Love the bloodlines and athletic ability. Hope he puts it all together and becomes a real good starter in the league.
    67. DJ Hayden CB – I heard of this guy late as I hadn’t watched Houston all year and he was injured. Reviewing his draft breakdown tapes it looks like this guy is probably the fastest CB in the draft. I don’t think he has the best reactions and gets beat but he uses that speed to catch guys who have run past him and closes quick on WRs in front of him. Good ball skills and should create TOs making up ground on the ball and catching ball carriers off guard from behind. You can’t teach his speed so I wouldn’t be surprised if he went much earlier if people like the tapes I haven’t seen.
    68. Gavin Escobar TE – Real good receiving threat who can stretch the field over the middle. Doesn’t bring much as a blocker but can get in the way a bit. If a team wants a flex TE this is a good prospect but I wouldn’t take him too high. I really think he’s much closer to Reed and McDonald in value then up there with Eifert and Ertz.
    69. Montee Ball RB – Good all around back who profiles to a #1 RB on a depth chart. Can carry the load and can catch effectively out of the backfield. Reminds me of a less athletic Doug Martin.
    70. David Amerson CB – What a disappointing season for Amerson. Got beat deep numerous times this season and just seemed unaware of his responsibility some times. He really has awesome ball skills and should be able to create turnovers in the NFL. Interesting offseason coming in a couple inches shorter then he was listed but then he runs way faster at 4.38 then it looked like when Cordarrelle was running past him. If he played physically like Banks and Rhodes I’d rank him higher but he seems to prefer to play off then doesn’t get his hips around quick enough to keep up. FS might be a good switch for him but that’s a real hard projection.
    71. Phillip Thomas S – Intriguing skill set of speed, quicks, and good tackler who can play close to the line and the deep half. Should be effective in coverage vs TEs and some WRs in man and really closes well in zone. I want to put him with another do it all type safety like Eric Berry so neither is stuck in a certain role when they can do it all.
    72. Bennie Logan DT – I may be over looking Logan here as he’s got the size and athleticism to be a real good 3 tech. Played with a lot of very talented guys so it was hard from him to stick out too much. I think he’s mainly a 3 tech who should be a solid starter and warrants 3rd round value.
    73. Sio Moore OLB – Versatility is what makes Sio such an interesting prospect as he could probably find a fit with every team in the NFL at either OLB spot in the 4-3 while being viable inside and out in the 3-4. He’s got the athletic ability to rush around the edge or chase runners down containing the edge. With his length and burst he should be able to cover effectively as well. I hope he goes to a 3-4 where coaches can just play games putting him in a bunch of different spots.
    74. Tony Jefferson FS – Best over the top safety in this class in my opinion. Shockingly bad combine 40 time because I saw a rangy guy who made plays on the ball covering ground quick. Did a good job covering WRs in the slot and I think he could do it in the NFL but would rather have him protecting deep. Not a very strong tackler in run support but shouldn’t be a liability at FS.
    75. Travis Frederick C – I always seem to under rate Wisconsin O lineman and I may be doing it again here with Frederick. He’s a big powerful guy for a center with enough quickness to get off the ball and handle the quick and power guys. I think he plays a little high at times and some defenders are able to get under his pads. Not as quick laterally as centers tend to be and may struggle vs the quickest NTs. Solid prospect though and can be just as effective at guard, I could really see him with the 49ers next to Iupati replacing Goodwin.
    76. Vance McDonald TE – Big impressive specimen for a receiving specialist who Rice tried everything to get the ball in his hands. Hasn’t been much of a blocker but has the big body and plenty of strength to develop in the NFL like Vernon Davis had to. His physical ability give him the higher grade to Reed for me.
    77. Stedman Bailey WR – Real productive WR who is just good at getting open and always brings the ball in. Can run any route from the outside and inside and enough speed to win deep. Even at 5-10 he has plenty ability to play on the outside and should be just as good in the slot, so he can be drafted to a team with an established slot or two established outside guys and fit as a top 3 WR for a team. Reminds me of Doug Baldwin as a reliable guy to go to in crunch time who fans will love.
    78. Cornelius Washington DE – Athletic freak who looks like he was made in a lab to be an NFL player. Popped in senior bowl practice coming in late but winning 1 v 1 impressively. Blew up the combine with great measureables in every aspect. Never really popped off the tape at UGA with all the NFL talent on that defense but coach Richt has since said he was schemed not to be a playmaker. I love his length and when he gets close to the ball he bursts to it so well. Has real upside at DE and I’d take a shot on him a bit higher than this if I needed a high upside pass rusher.
    79. Marcus Lattimore RB – Easily the best RB in this draft pre injury. Loved the smoothness of his cutting ability making it look easy. With his great rehabilitation so far I’m willing to risk this ranking on a guy who could be a star at RB with a full recovery. Doesn’t have to play year one to justify the pick for me.
    80. Tyler Bray QB – Tyler Bray is the most interesting QB in this draft class with his elite arm and terrible mechanics. His whacky whiplash release that’s not always consistent and refusal to get his feet set consistently stand out as probably his biggest problem with missing guys by a lot when it seems he could hit a pin head at other times. His work ethic and character off the field have also raised many questions. All that being said I think this is the type of pick a strong team that can let him sit for a few years should make and see if they can get a franchise guy this late. I see a chance with Bray that I don’t see with Manuel and Landry who I just can’t see being real effective franchise QBs in the NFL.
    81. DJ Swearinger S – Seems to always be around the ball making plays. Covers inside WRs and TEs better than most safeties in man with great reactions to the ball in zone. Real good tackler on ball carriers. His knocks are he’s probably slower than the rest of the high ranking safeties and might not be the over the top safety net Jefferson and Thomas are.
    82. Justin Pugh OG – His not so impressive kick step and short arms mean he probably won’t be sticking
    at LT in the NFL. He’s not the biggest or strongest guy to be a road grater but he bases out nice and moves well to be a solid guard at the next level. Could play RT if need be and even LT in a pinch which is useful to not carry a backup LT so he has plenty of value to a team.
    83. Terron Armstead OT – A small school guy I haven’t been able to see a whole lot of. The cutups I saw didn’t feature pass rushers who really had the skills to put real pressure on him so he mostly won easily but didn’t look especially strong or quick footed. I didn’t think he was great in the senior bowl and thought of him as a raw prospect with mid round value. He then blew up the combine and shot up boards but I don’t see how speed is such a key thing to a OTs success. I’m sticking him with mid 3rd round value based on LT upside but will likely sit for a while.
    84. Jamie Collins OLB – Another great athlete who blew up the combine and has the versatility similar to Sio Moore. Played a pass rushing hand in the dirt role and a stand up OLB role in the last couple years and showed effectiveness doing both. Probably best fits at OLB in the 3-4 where he can be close to the line of scrimmage but still do a little of everything.
    85. Jordan Reed TE – A true move TE in the Aaron Hernandez mold although a poor man’s version without that elite speed. He’s a nice big body in the slot for who can work the middle and be a tough matchup for LBs and safeties. Is a willing blocker but not much more than a get in the way type guy who won’t provide much inline. Might as well be considered a big slot WR so he’s a certain type fit.
    86. Terrance Williams WR – Interesting draft stock for Williams who got pushed up all the way into the 1st around in a lot of mocks and dropping like a rock back to the 3rd lately. His height was disappointing ending up right at 6-2 when he was listed at 6-3 and 6-4 in a lot of places. Intriguing deep threat who can make big plays and score TDs. Mostly only runs fly routes, quick slants, comebacks, and bubble screens and a lot of people question whether he can run an effective full route tree. Last of my top 11 WRs who ends my 2nd tier because I think he has the most bust potential although I think he’d fit well for a team like the Bills at the top of the 3rd.
    87. Dallas Thomas OG – Plenty consistent, just doesn’t have the upside a lot of the other lineman in this draft have. Could probably play RT if they wanted him to but I don’t think he has NFL LT feet that some say he has a chance at. Should be a solid starting guard in the league.
    88. Corey Lemonier DE/OLB – I feel he’s a bit over rated and a lot of his production came from “easy sacks”. He does have the physical ability you want in a pass rusher though and may even be able to play 3-4 OLB in a heavy pass rush role. I could see him going much earlier and he probably will with his measureables and some production. I just see more potential with a guy like Washington.
    89. Jelani Jenkins WLB – A perfect fit as a 3 down player at WLB in a 4-3 defense which also will limit the teams interested in him. Real good speed to give him a lot of range in coverage and chasing down running backs. Should start most of his rookie year and is one of the guys I look at as my guy. Could be a poor man’s Lavonte David.
    90. Darius Slay CB – Natural movement skill at CB with great speed and pretty good size. Finds the ball and closes well to get pass breakups. Does get beat from time to time and I though Banks was clearly the better player. May have a better all around skill set then others rated higher like Hayden, Amerson, and Alford but they each have one very intriguing skill that could make them great. Should be able to play some slot if need be so should make the rotation early.
    91. Giovanni Bernard RB – Excellent agility with giddy up to get through and out of the hole threatening big play potential. Real good hands and punt return ability that should get him on the field plenty. I don’t really see him in a lead role like LeSean McCoy and that’s why I’ve ranked him so low as a RB who should split carries about half and half.
    92. Bacarri Rambo FS – Looks like a SS but plays like a true FS with nice range and plays the ball real well. More of a hitter than a tackler but that’s ok with more from the FS position. I trust him on the back end, he’s plenty good in run support, and could probably match up with some TEs well as a pro.
    93. Tyrann Mathieu CB – True playmaker and game changer which is rare for someone in the back 7. I’m of the opinion that there is plenty of value in the nickel back role as it’s almost a full time starting role. He’s got some safety potential and should be a top tier punt returner which add to his value. We all know the question marks with him and I hope he can get it together and hopefully get over his depression sounding systems and over the weed dependence. A defensive coach should have a field day moving Mathieu around letting him make plays on the ball.
    94. Brandon Williams DT – A real big body at 6-1 with pretty quick feet. Should be solid at 1 or 0 tech although his not so impressive length may hamper is 3-4 potential. Could be a nice consolation prize for whoever wants Jesse Williams but doesn’t get him.
    95. Chris Harper WR – Big body with real strong hands who finds a way to rack up receptions without great speed and consistently needing a lot of separation. Does a good job shielding defenders with his big body and grabs the ball strongly, I see him as a reliable, go to 3rd down WR and reminds me some of Anquan Boldin physically but probably won’t fit the slot. Harper is the start of the next tier of my WRs after the top 11.
    96. Tyler Wilson QB – I like a true tough guy at QB and believe it does well to rally a team behind him. Of course he has to play well too and consistently which was the problem this last year at Arkansas. He was put in a terrible situation losing his coach after losing a group of NFL caliber weapons to boot and a porous O-line. I think if he can get comfortable in an offense and keep his feet set he can clean up his accuracy. I think he grades below Kirk Cousins but in the same range as he could be a viable starter but should easily be an upper echelon back up QB who can come in capably win.
    97. David Quessenberry OG – He was the most surprisingly impressive O lineman at the Senior Bowl for me with his consistency vs a variety of opposition. Was a solid LT in college but I don’t think he has the feet to do it in the NFL when guys can counter seamlessly. He should do well inside at OG with a guy on either side of him to protect him vs the very quick guys and he has the strength and base to handle bigger guys in there. Could probably play RT in a pinch.
    98. Marquess Wilson WR – I still really like Marquess, I had him in the 1st round prior to this year as I expected him to make a jump under Leach. Getting in the dog house and eventually quitting the team the way he did is not the preferred path to go pre draft but it is what it is and I hope it humbled him into a harder worker. I’ve always called him a rich man’s Malcolm Floyd who can get deep and win to the ball with pretty good speed combined with height, length, and ability to go up and snatch the ball. He can run most routes and is pretty good after the catch. I think a team with interest in Justin Hunter but isn’t able to grab him early would like Wilson as a mid round consolation prize with a similar game.
    99. Zavier Gooden WLB – Truly elite speed at the LB position but is only a 4-3 WLB prospect. Doesn’t seem as natural at the position as Jelani but has greater athleticism.
    100. Sanders Commings CB – Big physical CB with surprisingly quick feet giving him the ability to guard guys you wouldn’t expect. Great timed speed for his size, in the 4.4s, but doesn’t seem that fast on the field. Great awareness of the ball in the air so when he’s in position he’s going to make a good play on it. One of the better run support CBs in the draft and an aggressive tackler. I think the Jags would be a good landing spot if they don’t go CB real early.
    101. Kevin Reddick MLB – Good thumping LB on the inside and could fit in either scheme at MLB or ILB. Has decent range defending the run and not afraid to stick a lineman to disrupt lanes and allow others to make plays and can shed guys to make his own tackles. Probably only a 2 down LB who will be the 1st one out in sub packages as he doesn’t look athletic or comfortable enough in coverage man or zone.
    102. Duke Williams S – Solid safety who can do whatever you want from him and will likely be a career mid level starter.
    103. Aaron Dobson WR
    104. Logan Ryan CB
    105. Jon Bostic LB
    106. Leon McFadden CB
    107. Ryan Swope WR
    108. Devin Taylor DE
    109. Mike Glennon QB
    110. Akeem Spence DT
    111. John Simon DE
    112. Knile Davis RB
    113. Will Davis CB
    114. Stepfan Taylor RB
    115. William Gholston DE
    116. Brennan Williams OT
    117. Shawn Williams SS
    118. Kenny Stills WR
    119. Devonte Holloman OLB
    120. Lavar Edwards DE
    121. Ray Graham RB
    122. Levine Toilolo TE
    123. Trevardo Williams OLB/DE
    124. Kiko Alonso LB
    125. Andre Ellington RB
    126. Shamarko Thomas S
    127. Khaled Holmes C
    128. Chase Thomas OLB
    129. Christine Michael RB
    130. Zac Dysert QB
    131. Brian Schwenke C
    132. Marquise Goodwin WR
    133. Kenjon Barner RB
    134. Quanterus Smith DE
    135. Mark Harrison WR
    136. Joseph Randle RB
    137. Denard Robinson RB/WR
    138. Michael Buchanan OLB/DE
    139. Jonathan Franklin RB
    140. Nickell Robey CB
    141. Montori Hughes DT
    142. Ryan Otten TE
    143. BW Webb CB
    144. Cobi Hamilton WR
    145. JJ Wilcox S
    146. Jordan Mills OT
    147. Alvin Bailey OG
    148. Jawan Jamison RB
    149. Josh Evans S
    150. Dion Sims TE
    151. David Bakhtiari OT
    152. Brandon Jenkins DE/OLB
    153. Terry Hawthorne CB
    154. Everett Dawkins DT
    155. Nico Johnson LB
    156. EJ Manuel QB
    157. Chris Gragg TE
    158. Tavarres King WR
    159. Earl Wolff S
    160. Malliciah Goodman DE
    161. Jordan Hill DT
    162. Xavier Nixon OT
    163. Steve Beuaharnais MLB
    164. Matt Scott QB
    165. Corey Fuller WR
    166. Nick Kasa TE
    167. Mike Gillislee RB
    168. Ricky Wagner OT
    169. Tharold Simon CB
    170. Josh Boyd DT
    171. Marcus Davis WR
    172. Kwame Geathers NT
    173. Vince Williams ILB
    174. Brian Winters OG
    175. Reid Fragel OT
    176. Landry Jones QB
    177. Kyle Juszcyzk FB
    178. Kerwynn Williams RB
    179. Oday Aboushi OG
    180. Cooper Taylor SS
    181. Dwayne Gratz CB
    182. Cierre Wood RB
    183. Jake Stoneburner TE
    184. Ace Sanders WR
    185. Jonathan Stewart LB
    186. Hugh Thornton OG
    187. Dennis Johnson RB
    188. Micah Hyde CB
    189. Michael Mauti LB
    190. Emory Blake WR
    191. Gerald Hodges WLB
    192. Dexter McCoil S
    193. JC Tretter OG
    194. Michael Williams TE
    195. Aaron Mellette WR
    196. Philip Lutzenkirchen TE
    197. Josh Boyce WR
    198. Joseph Fauria TE
    199. Jordan Rodgers QB
    200. Brandon McGee CB
    201. Travis Johnson OLB
    202. Mario Benavides C
    203. Zac Stacey RB
    204. Johnny Adams CB
    205. Zeke Motta S
    206. Quinton Dial DL
    207. Keith Pough OLB
    208. Sean Renfree QB
    209. Robert Lester FS
    210. TJ Moe WR
    211. Joe Kruger DE
    212. Spencer Ware RB
    213. Mike Catapano DE
    214. Chad Bumpis WR
    215. Steve Williams CB
    216. Walter Stewart DE
    217. Mark Jackson OG
    218. Michael Ford RB
    219. Conner Vernon WR
    220. Marc Anthon CB
    221. Travis Long OLB/DE
    222. John Boyett S
    223. Omoregie Uzzi OG
    224. Chris Thompson RB
    225. Josh Johnson CB
    226. Joe Madsen C
    227. Lerente McCray DE/OLB
    228. AJ Klein LB
    229. Garrett Gilkey OG
    230. Colby Cameron QB
    231. Onterio McCalleb RB
    232. Justice Cunningham TE
    233. Rodney Smith WR
    234. Russell Sheppard WR
    235. Adrian Bushell CB
    236. Armonty Bryant DE
    237. Michael Clay WLB
    238. DJ Harper RB
    239. Mychal Rivera TE
    240. Joe Vellan DT
    241. Braxston Cave C
    242. Rex Burkhead RB
    243. Robbie Rouse RB
    244. Courtney Gardner WR
    245. Aaron Hester CB
    246. Ty Powell DE/OLB
    247. Justin Brown WR
    248. Jasper Collins WR
    249. Stansley Maponga DE/OLB
    250. Bruce Taylor LB




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    Big Board #2 - Post #48
    Big Board #3 - Post #56
    Final Big Board - Post #77
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    This post will be updated with my most recent mock draft throughout the season.

    April 25th - 3 Round Mock - Best Guess on top and What I Would Do on bottom.

    My final best guess mock for the 2013 NFL Draft including trades. Not based on my own rankings.

    1 - 1 - Kansas City - Luke Joeckel OT
    1 - 2 - Jacksonville - Dion Jordan LEO
    1 - 3 - Detroit - Eric Fisher OT
    1 - 4 - Philadelphia - Star Lotulelei DL
    1 - 5 - Miami - Lane Johnson OT
    1 - 6 - Cleveland - Geno Smith QB
    1 - 7 - Arizona - Barkevious Mingo ROLB
    1 - 8 - Tennessee - Ezekial Ansah DE
    1 - 9 - New York Jets - Dee Milliner CB
    1 - 10 - St. Louis - Tavon Austin WR
    1 - 11 - San Diego - Chance Warmack OG
    1 - 12 - Oakland - Shariff Floyd DT
    1 - 13 - New York Jets - Jarvis Jones ROLB
    1 - 14 - Carolina - Sheldon Richardson DT
    1 - 15 - Atlanta - Xavier Rhodes CB
    1 - 16 - Buffalo - Matt Barkley QB
    1 - 17 - Pittsburgh - Cordarrelle Patterson WR
    1 - 18 - Dallas - Jonathan Cooper OG
    1 - 19 - New York Giants - Bjoern Werner DE
    1 - 20 - Chicago - DJ Fluker RT
    1 - 21 - Cincinnati - Kenny Vaccaro S
    1 - 22 - St. Louis - Alec Ogletree WLB
    1 - 23 - Minnesota - Justin Hunter WR
    1 - 24 - Indianapolis - Desmond Trufant CB
    1 - 25 - Minnesota - Sylvester Williams DT
    1 - 26 - Green Bay - Tyler Eifert TE
    1 - 27 - Houston - Robert Woods WR
    1 - 28 - Denver - Tank Carradine DE
    1 - 29 - New England - DeAndre Hopkins WR
    1 - 30 - New Orleans - Johnthan Banks CB
    1 - 31 - San Francisco - Eric Reid S
    1 - 32 - Baltimore - Arthur Brown ILB
    2 - 33 - Jacksonville - Jon Cyprien S
    2 - 34 - San Francisco - Jesse Williams DL
    2 - 35 - Philadelphia - Kyle Long OL
    2 - 36 - Detroit - Damontre Moore DE
    2 - 37 - Cincinnati - Eddie Lacy RB
    2 - 38 - Arizona - Menelik Watson OT
    2 - 39 - New York Jets - Ryan Nassib QB
    2 - 40 - Tennessee - Larry Warford OG
    2 - 41 - Buffalo - Keenan Allen WR
    2 - 42 - Oakland - DJ Hayden CB
    2 - 43 - Tampa Bay - Zach Ertz TE
    2 - 44 - Carolina - Matt Elam S
    2 - 45 - San Diego - Jamar Taylor CB
    2 - 46 - St. Louis - Kawann Short DT
    2 - 47 - Dallas - Datone Jones DL
    2 - 48 - Pittsburgh - Corey Lemonier OLB
    2 - 49 - New York Giants - Manti Teo MLB
    2 - 50 - Chicago - Kevin Minter MLB
    2 - 51 - Washington - Blidi Wreh Wilson CB
    2 - 52 - Minnesota - Alex Okafor DE
    2 - 53 - Cincinnati - Terron Armstead OT
    2 - 54 - Miami - Markus Wheaton WR
    2 - 55 - Green Bay - Margus Hunt DE
    2 - 56 - Seattle - Johnathan Hankins DT
    2 - 57 - Houston - Sio Moore LB
    2 - 58 - Denver - TJ McDonald S
    2 - 59 - New England - Barrett Jones OL
    2 - 60 - Saints - Justin Pugh OT
    2 - 61 - San Francisco - Travis Frederick C
    2 - 62 - Baltimore - Da'Rick Rogers WR
    3 - 63 - Kansas City - Phillip Thomas S
    3 - 64 - Jacksonville - David Amerson CB
    3 - 65 - Oakland - Sam Montgomery DE
    3 - 66 - Oakland - Quinton Patton WR
    3 - 67 - Philadelphia - EJ Manuel QB
    3 - 68 - Cleveland - Jordan Poyer CB
    3 - 69 - Arizona - Mike Glennon QB
    3 - 70 - Tennessee - Robert Alford - CB
    3 - 71 - Buffalo - Gavin Escobar - TE
    3 - 72 - New York Jets - Jordan Reed - TE
    3 - 73 - Tampa Bay - Johnathan Jenkins - NT
    3 - 74 - San Francisco - Vance McDonald - TE
    3 - 75 - New Orleans - Chris Faulk - OT
    3 - 76 - San Diego - David Bahktiari - OT
    3 - 77 - Miami - Darius Slay - CB
    3 - 78 - Buffalo - Tyrann Mathieu - CB
    3 - 79 - Pittsburgh - Brandon Williams - NT
    3 - 80 - Dallas - Bacarri Rambo - FS
    3 - 81 - New York Giants - Travis Kelce - TE
    3 - 82 - Miami - Christian Michael - RB
    3 - 83 - Minnesota - Tony Jefferson - FS
    3 - 84 - Cincinnati - Tyler Bray - QB
    3 - 85 - Washington - Duke Williams - S
    3 - 86 - Indianapolis - Terrance Williams - WR
    3 - 87 - Seattle - Khaseem Greene - WLB
    3 - 88 - Green Bay - Le'Veon Bell - RB
    3 - 89 - Houston - Brennan Williams - OT
    3 - 90 - Denver - Montee Ball - RB
    3 - 91 - New England - Leon McFadden - CB
    3 - 92 - Atlanta - Cornelius Washington - DE
    3 - 93 - San Francisco - Stedman Bailey - WR
    3 - 94 - Baltimore - Shawn Williams - SS
    3 - 95 - Houston - Tyler Wilson - QB
    3 - 96 - Kansas City - Kevin Reddick - ILB
    3 - 97 - Tennessee - Ryan Swope - WR




    NMD's Final "What I would do " Mock Draft - no trades

    1 - 1 - Kansas City - Luke Joeckel - OT
    1 - 2 - Jacksonville - Star Lotulelei - DL
    1 - 3 - Oakland - Barkevious Mingo - DE
    1 - 4 - Philadelphia - Johnthan Banks - CB
    1 - 5 - Detroit - Eric Fisher - OT
    1 - 6 - Cleveland - Geno Smith - QB
    1 - 7 - Arizona - Dion Jordan - ROLB
    1 - 8 - Buffalo - Chance Warmack - OG
    1 - 9 - New York Jets - Dee Milliner - CB
    1 - 10 - Tennessee - Ezekial Ansah - DE
    1 - 11 - San Diego - Lane Johnson - OT
    1 - 12 - Miami - Tavon Austin - WR
    1 - 13 - New York Jets - Jarvis Jones - ROLB
    1 - 14 - Carolina - Sheldon Richardson - DT
    1 - 15 - New Orleans - Sharrif Floyd - DT
    1 - 16 - St. Louis - Cordarrelle Patterson - WR
    1 - 17 - Pittsburgh - Justin Hunter - WR
    1 - 18 - Dallas - Jon Cooper - OG
    1 - 19 - New York Giants - Sam Montgomery - DE
    1 - 20 - Chicago - Johnathan Hankins - DT
    1 - 21 - Cincinnati - Eric Reid - S
    1 - 22 - St. Louis - Alec Ogletree - WLB
    1 - 23 - Minnesota - Desmond Trufant - CB
    1 - 24 - Indianapolis - Xavier Rhodes - CB
    1 - 25 - Minnesota - Bjoern Werner - DE
    1 - 26 - Green Bay - Tyler Eifert - TE
    1 - 27 - Houston - Robert Woods - WR
    1 - 28 - Denver - Tank Carradine - DE
    1 - 29 - New England - DeAndre Hopkins - WR
    1 - 30 - Atlanta - DaMontre Moore - DE
    1 - 31 - San Francisco - Kenny Vaccaro - FS
    1 - 32 - Baltimore - Arthur Brown - ILB
    2 - 33 - Jacksonville - Matt Barkley - QB
    2 - 34 - San Francisco - Jesse Williams - NT
    2 - 35 - Philadelphia - Kyle Long - OL
    2 - 36 - Detroit - Alex Okafor - DE
    2 - 37 - Cincinnati - Eddie Lacy - RB
    2 - 38 - Arizona - Zach Ertz - TE
    2 - 39 - New York Jets - Keenan Allen - WR
    2 - 40 - Tennessee - Jordan Poyer - CB
    2 - 41 - Buffalo - Ryan Nassib - QB
    2 - 42 - Miami - Menelik Watson - OT
    2 - 43 - Tampa Bay - Kawann Short - DT
    2 - 44 - Carolina - Jonathan Cyprien - S
    2 - 45 - San Diego - Manti Teo - ILB
    2 - 46 - St. Louis - Sylvester Williams - DT
    2 - 47 - Dallas - Matt Elam - S
    2 - 48 - Pittsburgh - Jamar Taylor - CB
    2 - 49 - New York Giants - Kevin Minter - MLB
    2 - 50 - Chicago - Margus Hunt - DE
    2 - 51 - Washington - Blidi Wreh Wilson - CB
    2 - 52 - Minnesota - Markus Wheaton - WR
    2 - 53 - Cincinnati - DJ Fluker - OT
    2 - 54 - Miami - Robert Alford - CB
    2 - 55 - Green Bay - Datone Jones - DE
    2 - 56 - Seattle - Khaseem Greene - WLB
    2 - 57 - Houston - Barrett Jones - OL
    2 - 58 - Denver - Le'Veon Bell - RB
    2 - 59 - New England - Larry Warford - OG
    2 - 60 - Atlanta - DJ Hayden - CB
    2 - 61 - San Francisco - Travis Frederick - C
    2 - 62 - Baltimore - Da'Rick Rogers - WR
    3 - 63 - Kansas City - Phillip Thomas - S
    3 - 64 - Jacksonville - David Amerson - CB
    3 - 65 - Detroit - TJ McDonald - SS
    3 - 66 - Oakland - Travis Kelce - TE
    3 - 67 - Philadelphia - Darius Slay - CB
    3 - 68 - Cleveland - Quinton Patton - WR
    3 - 69 - Arizona - DJ Swearinger - S
    3 - 70 - Tennessee - Justin Pugh - OG
    3 - 71 - Buffalo - Terrance Williams - WR
    3 - 72 - New York Jets - Tyler Wilson - QB
    3 - 73 - Tampa Bay - Sean Porter - SLB
    3 - 74 - San Francisco - Vance McDonald - TE
    3 - 75 - New Orleans - Chris Faulk - OT
    3 - 76 - San Diego - Jon Jenkins - NT
    3 - 77 - Miami - Montee Ball - RB
    3 - 78 - St. Louis - Tony Jefferson - FS
    3 - 79 - Pittsburgh - Sio Moore - OLB
    3 - 80 - Dallas - Bennie Logan - DT
    3 - 81 - New York Giants - Jordan Reed - TE
    3 - 82 - Miami - Cornelius Washington - DE
    3 - 83 - Minnesota - Terron Armstead - OT
    3 - 84 - Cincinnati - Tyler Bray - QB
    3 - 85 - Washington - Bacarri Rambo - FS
    3 - 86 - Indianapolis - Corey Lemonier - OLB
    3 - 87 - Seattle - Tyrann Mathieu - CB
    3 - 88 - Green Bay - Marcus Lattimore - RB
    3 - 89 - Houston - Jamie Collins - OLB
    3 - 90 - Denver - Brandon Williams - NT
    3 - 91 - New England - Sanders Commings - CB
    3 - 92 - Atlanta - Dallas Thomas - OL
    3 - 93 - San Francisco - Stedman Bailey - WR
    3 - 94 - Baltimore - Duke Williams - S
    3 - 95 - Houston - Kevin Reddick - ILB
    3 - 96 - Kansas City - Knile Davis - RB
    3 - 97 - Tennessee - Ryan Swope - WR


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    Mock Draft #2 - Post #20
    Mock Draft #3 - Post #22
    Mock Draft #4 - Post #39
    Mock Draft #5 - Post #52
    Mock Draft #6 - Post #57
    Mock Draft #7 - Post #67
    Final Best Guess Mock - Post #76
    Final What I Would Do Mock - Post #79
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    • #3
      Where is Tyler Eifert?

      You have Indianapolis picking twice. They only have one first-round pick right now.
      Originally posted by jepg
      I apologise to the entire Walter Football community for my bigoted views.

      I should be put on an island and nuked.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Blue View Post
        Where is Tyler Eifert?

        You have Indianapolis picking twice. They only have one first-round pick right now.
        I had the Eagles taking Eifert but then decided I would keep everybody eligible and decided Bray was too much to pass up, and then I couldn't find a fit in the mid to late 20s for Eifert.

        Oh my bad, that is supposed to be the Rams 2nd pick. I was thinking Robert Griffin, Andre Luck and done confused my self.
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        • #5
          Tyler Wilson in no way is Carson Palmer lite. He has a very different palying style more resembling ARodgers or JCutler.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tango View Post
            Tyler Wilson in no way is Carson Palmer lite. He has a very different palying style more resembling ARodgers or JCutler.
            Wilson reminds me a lot of a poor man's Jay Cutler.
            Originally posted by jepg
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            I should be put on an island and nuked.
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            • #7
              I could really see TJ McDonald happening. Alternatively, we could see a rush backer, a tight end, and an inside linebacker (in that order for the most part). Maybe a corner, though I doubt it. Culliver should be coming into his own by then.

              Tight End is only if a really talented guy falls. Guys were talking about Eifert, and I think if TJ McDonald weren't available for the Niners in this mock, then Eifert would be a decent choice. By the 2014 season, Vernon Davis will be 30 years old, and Delanie Walker will be long gone. VD's biggest asset is his speed, and I don't know how effective he'll be as he ages. I certainly don't think they're going to keep him on his huge contract once he loses his legs. A tight end will come in the first two rounds either this upcoming draft, or the one after.

              Inside linebacker has the issue that NaVorro Bowman might end up leaving for money he won't be able to get in San Francisco. Then again, not sure it's going to be a 1st round priority.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tango View Post
                Tyler Wilson in no way is Carson Palmer lite. He has a very different palying style more resembling ARodgers or JCutler.
                Originally posted by Blue View Post
                Wilson reminds me a lot of a poor man's Jay Cutler.
                Good points, Cutler is a much better player comparison. I like Wilson the same type of offense a 2012 Palmer fits, can do the vertical stuff while his accuracy can work in a shorter timing passing game as well.
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                • #9
                  The Titans could take a corner in the first, but I don't like Banks over Rhodes.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Daniel View Post
                    The Titans could take a corner in the first, but I don't like Banks over Rhodes.
                    Yeah I think Xavier Rhodes is ranked above Johnthan Banks for most people but I really like Banks and he'll probably be the guy people think is much too high on my Big Board when I finish it up.

                    How is Derrick Morgan working out in Tennessee, he's been mostly injured right? Has he shown anything to make you think he'll be a viable future starter?
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                    • #11
                      Mock Draft #1 - Pre Training Camp

                      This draft order was just based on a quick ranking before training camp without too much thought and no game by game picking so don't concentrate on that part more the player ranking and need.

                      1 CLE Matt Barkley QB - I'm not certain Barkley will be the #1 QB by the end of the year but he is now and I think Weeden will have a Gabbert like season thrown in too early on a bad young offense. I think they go QB since I don't think any of the other players turns around the team.
                      2 STL Keenan Allen WR - More the prototypical #1 WR then Woods gets him the edge to a WR needy team.
                      3 MIA Robert Woods WR - This team needs a #1 WR bad, I don't think the Dolphins should be quite this bad but I think they get a bunch of close losses resulting in the reign of Tannehill and they decline the 2nd half of the season.
                      4 IND Barkevious Mingo OLB - I think Mingo is a bigger better version of Bruce Irvin used to his skill set that will push him to the top of the draft as a pure pass rush prospect.
                      5 MIN David Amerson CB - A Patrick Peterson type prospect who if used well should be a great cover 2 CB, not a Revis but still effective.
                      6 JAC Eric Reid S - I heart Eric Reid, I think he gets up to top 10 and the Jags need matches up.
                      7 OAK Tyler Wilson QB - Might as well give the Raiders a Palmer Lite QB to train as backup for 1-2 years.
                      8 TB Jarvis Jones LB - Need and talent didn't match too well on my big board and I don't know much on how Schiano is going to run things but I think Jones is a great SAM to team up with Foster and David for a great young LB core.
                      9 STL Luke Joeckel OT - I really like Joeckel as a pure pass protector, needs to get a stronger base but should be a 10 plus year starter at LT.
                      10 ARI Logan Thomas QB - Hard to say where Thomas ends up as a prospect but his talent will probably get him taken to a team in need of a future franchise guy.
                      11 CAR Justin Hunter WR - Give Cam his future #1 who can work as a 2 kind of like Julio for a year or two and take over.
                      12 TEN Johnthan Banks CB - I like Banks in any scheme to quickly become a #1 semi shutdown CB.
                      13 SD Star Lotulelei NT - Complete the re-vamped DL to anchor Liuget and Reyes with a Ngata Lite.
                      14 KC Xavier Rhodes CB - Routt's deal will get him cut after this year and Rhodes is a better alternative to re-signing him here. Skilled CB who should fit any scheme.
                      15 CHI DJ Fluker OT - The only real hole on the team is LT, if Fluker can adjust to the left he could get picked here.
                      16 PIT Marcus Lattimore RB - Lattimore drops like RBs tend to do and the Steelers get great value here in Mendenhall's replacement.
                      17 DAL Sean Porter OLB - I bet they let Spencer walk and get Porter to be the coverage guy who can rush pretty well too, probably needs to get bigger to hold up vs run in the 3-4 but he's got time.
                      18 BUF Marquess Wilson WR - A little bit high for Wilson but I think he'd be a great compliment to Stevie Johnson at one of the few real holes on the team.
                      19 DET Alex Okafor DE - I have Werner rated higher but the Lions take the better pass rusher to replace Cliff Avril.
                      20 NO Sam Montgomery DE - They take the local high upside DE to get ready to replace the aging Will Smith.
                      21 DEN Bjoern Werner DE - I true LE who can stuff the run and create pressure, I honestly didn't see much Ayers this year but I'm sure Werner an upgrade.
                      22 CIN Barrett Jones OL - A pretty stacked roster, might as well get a guy who can fill in at any spot on the Oline and to it well.
                      23 NYG Manti Teo MLB - Teo goes a little high based on my big board but the Giants haven't had a true MLB in years.
                      24 ATL Chris Faulk OT - I have Lewan as rated a little higher but ATL wants someone who has a good shot at LT and Faulk has a lot of talent.
                      25 NYJ Dion Jordan OLB - Dropped down my mock based on need but a perfect fit with NYJ.
                      26 SEA Kawaan Short - Cue the Seahawks aren't nearly this good but it's my mock and I think they're good. I'm sure either Jones or Branch prices themselves out of re-signing and short can provide the pass rush and run defense like Carroll will like to play 3-tech. I almost went Da'Rick Rogers here but I think the combo of all the ok WRs we have will be good enough.
                      27 BAL Taylor Lewan OT - I really like Lewan as a mauling RT and I know they'd rather have Oher there but maybe Lewan can play LT and they're a run based team.
                      28 PHI Tyler Bray QB - I think Nick Foles sucks and Vick is getting old, Bray could end up anywhere from #1 pick to 2nd round but I think Philly can take the future here.
                      29 SF TJ McDonald FS - Goldson is probably gone after this season and McDonald does everything well.
                      30 NE Da'Rick Rogers WR - Good time to get a young starting WR who doesn't necessarily have to be a #1 with all the other weapons.
                      31 HOU Jake Matthews OT - Replace a great run blocking specialist RT with a great run blocking specialist RT.
                      32 GB Kenny Vaccaro S - It was either S or RB here for me and I think Vaccaro is the better value here then someone like Ball or Davis would be at RB.
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                        Training Camp Big Board 100

                        1 Keenan Allen WR*
                        2 Robert Woods WR*
                        3 Matt Barkley QB
                        4 David Amerson CB*
                        5 Barkevious Mingo DE*
                        6 Jarvis Jones OLB*
                        7 Marcus Lattimore RB*
                        8 Eric Reid S*
                        9 Justin Hunter WR*
                        10 Luke Joeckel LT*
                        11 Star Lotulelei DT
                        12 Tyler Wilson QB
                        13 Johnthan Banks CB
                        14 Sean Porter OLB
                        15 Logan Thomas QB*
                        16 Bjoern Werner DE*
                        17 DJ Fluker OT*
                        18 Dion Jordan DE
                        19 Barrett Jones OL
                        20 Xavier Rhodes CB*
                        21 Chris Faulk OT*
                        22 Kawann Short DT
                        23 Marquess Wilson WR*
                        24 Alex Okafor DE
                        25 Tyler Bray QB*
                        26 Sam Montgomery DE*
                        27 Taylor Lewan OT*
                        28 Tyrann Mathieu DB*
                        29 Aaron Murray QB*
                        30 Manti Te’o MLB
                        31 Da'Rick Rogers WR*
                        32 TJ McDonald S
                        33 Jackson Jeffcoat DE*
                        34 Tyler Eifert TE*
                        35 Montee Ball RB
                        36 Geno Smith QB
                        37 Desmond Trufant CB
                        38 Jake Matthews OT*
                        39 Kenny Vaccaro S
                        40 Johnathon Hankins NT*
                        41 Chance Warmack OG
                        42 Brandon Jenkins DE
                        43 Kevin Reddick LB
                        44 Ricky Wagner OT
                        45 Devin Taylor DE
                        46 Knile Davis RB
                        47 Jonathan Cooper OG
                        48 Shayne Skov LB
                        49 Robert Lester S
                        50 Ray Graham RB
                        51 William Gholsten DE*
                        52 Sheldon Richardson DT
                        53 Keith Price QB*
                        54 Johnny Adams CB
                        55 Jonathan Brown LB*
                        56 Margus Hunt DE
                        57 Jordan Poyer CB
                        58 Landry Jones QB
                        59 Oday Aboushi OT
                        60 Jelani Jenkins OLB*
                        61 Akeem Spence DT*
                        62 Kenny Stills WR*
                        63 Chase Thomas OLB
                        64 DeMarcus Milliner CB*
                        65 Terrance Williams WR
                        66 Jesse Williams DT
                        67 Giovanni Bernard RB**
                        68 Damontre Moore OLB*
                        69 Alex Hurst OT
                        70 Andre Ellington RB
                        71 EJ Manuel QB
                        72 Bacarri Rambo S
                        73 DeAndre Hopkins WR*
                        74 Justin Gilbert CB*
                        75 Khaled Holmes C
                        76 John Simon DE
                        77 Kenjon Barner RB
                        78 Tony Jefferson FS*
                        79 Cobi Hamilton WR
                        80 Michael Buchanan DE
                        81 Bennie Logan DT*
                        82 Nico Johnson ILB
                        83 Joseph Fauria TE
                        84 Christine Michael RB
                        85 Johnathan Jenkins NT
                        86 Eddie Lacy RB*
                        87 Tharold Simon CB*
                        88 Jaymes Gayle DE*
                        89 Carrington Byndom CB*
                        90 Tavon Austin WR
                        91 Joseph Randle RB*
                        92 LevineToilolo TE*
                        93 Tom Wort LB*
                        94 Micah Hyde DB
                        95 Zach Ertz TE*
                        96 Arthur Brown LB
                        97 Aaron Mellette WR
                        98 Michael Dyer RB*
                        99 Zavier Gooden LB
                        100 Matt Elam FS*
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                          Originally posted by NMD View Post
                          How is Derrick Morgan working out in Tennessee, he's been mostly injured right? Has he shown anything to make you think he'll be a viable future starter?
                          He looked like a future starter in his limited time as a rookie, but last season he was alright against the run, but that was it. He's been constantly injured, so there's that too. 2012 will probably show his true abilities.

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                          • #14
                            Robert Woods stock to drop once his medical report comes out.

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                              The Jags don't need a safety.

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