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  • Air Norv
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    As a San Diego Chargers fan who is aware of our largest need on the roster(Nose Tackle) I saw Al Woods measureables and was ecstatic.(Along with Terrence Cody). Apparently Woods lost his starting job due to lazyness, poor work ethic. Reminds me of former Texas DT Frank Okam.

    Do any of you have any prospects that you think would fit well as a 3-4 NT?

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by RedRaider80 View Post
    Monroe has been number 1 on draftscout for a while. At least since late MAy. IDK when you did that though...
    They changed him around late June if I remember correctly.

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  • RedRaider80
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    Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
    I did with Eugene Monroe, though it wasn't random.

    Next thing I know Walter moves him into the 2nd, round, then first. Next thing I know NFLDraftScout.com has him ranked as the #1 OT for 2009.

    Also I had Vince Oghobaase in the first round of my mock before everyone else and the highest in my mock earlier than anyone at #10 in mid-April.
    Monroe has been number 1 on draftscout for a while. At least since late MAy. IDK when you did that though...

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by regoob2 View Post
    The Bears cant develop a QB ever so we should take Tebow? Doesnt make a ton of sense.
    Florida Quarterbacks are awesome. That's why you took him

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  • regoob2
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    The Bears cant develop a QB ever so we should take Tebow? Doesnt make a ton of sense.

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  • Joey_Potter
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    I currently have only one Guard and no Defensive Tackles in my third Mock Draft as of right now. I think there are two guys that could break in though. Just need a little more info on them.

    McShay wouldn't know talent if it ran him down and kicked his ass.

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  • IlliniVikeFan23
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    Originally posted by PuppyPuncher View Post
    I should just give you my ESPN magazine codes since I'm Canadian.
    What does you being Canadian have to do with it?

    I get ESPN the mag but you need to type in your credit card number to get insider even though it says it's free. My dad won't do it since he thinks he would have to pay more money.

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  • PuppyPuncher
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    Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
    I don't have insider so I can't read that article. Who are his top five?
    I should just give you my ESPN magazine codes since I'm Canadian.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
    I don't have insider so I can't read that article. Who are his top five?
    1. Atlanta Falcons -- Fili Moala, DT, USC
    Atlanta finally gets its playmaking interior defensive lineman. Moala has flown under the radar to this point but he should emerge from the shadow of 2008 No. 7 overall pick Sedrick Ellis and become one of the elite defenders in college football this fall.

    2. Detroit Lions -- Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
    Coach Rod Marinelli's defense is predicated on speed up front, and Johnson is blessed with plenty of that. Johnson was overlooked while playing in a rotation last season, but it won't take long for the rangy edge-rusher to make his mark in 2008.

    3. Kansas City Chiefs -- Matt Stafford*, QB, Georgia
    Another injury-plagued and disappointing season out of fragile QB Brodie Croyle will force the Chiefs to address the position with this high draft pick in 2009. If the supremely talented Stafford continues to progress as he did last fall, he could easily emerge as a top-five pick next April.

    4. Miami Dolphins -- Al Woods, DT, LSU
    At 6-foot-4 and 320 pounds, Woods is a physically imposing defensive tackle with enough size and strength to anchor the middle of a 3-4 defense.

    5. Cincinnati Bengals -- Sen'Derrick Marks*, DT, Auburn
    The Bengals got shut out in their pursuit of an elite defensive tackle in this year's draft, but 2009 will be more kind. Marks is an undersized playmaker with the first-step quickness to disrupt as a 3-technique tackle, which is exactly what Marvin Lewis' defense needs along its front.

    6. Oakland Raiders -- Andre Smith*, OT, Alabama
    Smith stepped in immediately as the Tide's starting left tackle and continues to improve with more coaching and game experience. The Raiders could enlist a player with his kind of skills to take care of their most recent first-round investments in QB JaMarcus Russell and RB Darren McFadden.

    7. Chicago Bears -- Tim Tebow*, QB, Florida
    It's almost certain that the Bears will need a quarterback come next offseason. Unfortunately, next year's crop of signal-callers does not look promising at this point. Bears fans won't be thrilled if the team uses a high pick on another Gators quarterback following the failed Rex Grossman experiment, but Tebow's unique blend of skills and rare intangibles might be too good to pass up. Should Tebow elect to leave school early, however, his uncommon skill set could make him the most difficult prospect at any position to grade.

    8. San Francisco 49ers -- Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
    Oher, who possesses the size and athletic ability to develop into an upper-echelon starting tackle in the NFL, would make an ideal bookend opposite 2007 first-rounder Joe Staley.

    9. St. Louis Rams -- Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
    Maualuga is the top senior prospect on my 2009 draft board at this insanely early point in the process, although he wouldn't be the first senior off the board. I've never seen a defensive player take over a game the way Maualuga did versus Illinois in the Rose Bowl, and his recognition skills are clearly catching up with his rare physical tools.

    10. New York Jets -- Knowshon Moreno*, RB, Georgia
    Moreno burst onto the scene as a redshirt freshman in 2007 and he should build on that momentum as a first-year starter behind a more mature offensive line during the upcoming season. The Jets were not able to land McFadden in this year's draft but Moreno would be worth the wait if he's available in 2009.

    11. Tennessee Titans -- Michael Crabtree*, WR, Texas Tech
    Do not pigeonhole Crabtree; he's not just a product of coach Mike Leach's pass-crazy offense. The tall, long-armed receiver could be the go-to-target QB Vince Young so desperately needs.

    12. Houston Texans -- Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
    Jenkins made a wise decision to return as a senior. He needs to improve his footwork and overall man-to-man cover skills to prove to scouts he's capable of playing corner in any scheme at the next level. Regardless, the Texans could use his ball-hawking skills in their secondary, no matter whether it's at cornerback or safety.

    13. Denver Broncos -- James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
    Laurinaitis surprised many NFL scouts when he elected to return to Columbus for his senior season. Assuming he continues to make progress in 2008, there's no reason to believe he will fall out of the top 20 picks in next year's draft. The instinctive, high-motor inside linebacker would be a nice addition to a Denver defense in search of more stout defenders up the middle.

    14. Baltimore Ravens -- Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
    The Ravens need an upgrade at corner and a young playmaker like Davis, who possesses rare athleticism for his size, would be an ideal fit.

    15. Philadelphia Eagles (from CAR) -- Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
    The Eagles failed to land a go-to-receiver in the 2008 draft (no, DeSean Jackson does not qualify). Instead of going the free-agent route to land a weapon for veteran QB Donovan McNabb, they might as well use one of two first-round picks in '09 on a future primary target for future QB Kevin Kolb.

    16. Arizona Cardinals -- LeSean McCoy*, RB, Pittsburgh
    After Arizona failed to find a complement for Edgerrin James in this year's draft, the Cardinals' need at running back will be far more pressing in the spring of '09. McCoy is a supremely talented sophomore who is draft eligible after spending a year in prep school, and he is reportedly already eyeing the 2009 draft.

    17. Buffalo Bills -- Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin
    Beckum could emerge as a top-20 pick if he can add 10-15 pounds to his frame while maintaining his big-play ability as a receiver during his senior season.

    18. Philadelphia Eagles -- Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
    After failing to land one of the record-setting seven offensive tackles selected in the first round of this year's draft, coach Andy Reid will be craving a big fella like Loadholt in 2009.

    19. Washington Redskins -- Greg Hardy*, DE, Mississippi
    Hardy is flying under the radar right now despite notching 10 solo sacks the past two seasons, and the Redskins will be looking for a young pass-rushing threat after failing to land one during the latest draft.

    20. Minnesota Vikings -- Percy Harvin*, WR/RS, Florida
    Staying healthy for a full season would all but guarantee Harvin a spot in the first round of the NFL draft, either next year or in 2010.

    21. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Ciron Black, OT, LSU
    The Bucs will be looking to enlist the services of a talented left tackle prospect such as Black, who displays quick feet for a 6-5, 315-pounder.

    22. Green Bay Packers -- Max Unger, OT, Oregon
    Unger, who projects as a first-day pick in next year's draft, is the type of versatile lineman the Packers typically covet.

    23. Cleveland Browns -- Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson
    Sapp is an up-and-coming talent with outstanding speed and pass-rushing potential. He should fit perfectly as a rush linebacker in a 3-4 scheme like the one employed in Cleveland.

    24. Seattle Seahawks -- Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma
    The Seahawks are still looking for a long-term solution at left guard, so why not use this pick on the player who is at this point the top prospect at that position.

    25. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
    Jackson is among the elite senior defensive prospects right now but that might not hold up for 12 full months, as he's simply not a great fit for every team's defensive scheme. At 6-5 and 290, Jackson is best suited to play defensive end in a three-man front like the one employed in Pittsburgh.

    26. New Orleans Saints -- Gerald McRath, OLB, Southern Miss
    The Saints will be looking for an injection of youth and athleticism at linebacker and the speedy, undersized McRath falls in line with that objective.

    27. New York Giants -- Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
    The Giants could use a quick and powerful tackling machine like Spikes after failing to address that need early in the 2008 draft.

    28. Jacksonville Jaguars -- William Moore, S, Missouri
    Moore emerged as a playmaking machine in 2007, when he notched 114 tackles and eight interceptions. At 6-1 and 215 pounds he could be the versatile strong safety Jacksonville needs opposite FS Reggie Nelson.

    29. Indianapolis Colts -- Vance Walker, DT/DE, Georgia Tech
    Walker has the right blend of tools to provide depth along the interior of Indianapolis' quick-but-undersized defensive line.

    30. San Diego Chargers -- Auston English, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
    English is an instinctive, high-motor player with very good speed and fluid hips for a young defensive end. He already has experience dropping into coverage on zone-blitz looks within Oklahoma's complex defensive scheme.

    31. Dallas Cowboys -- Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
    Wide receiver is the one area Dallas did not address during an otherwise promising 2008 draft. Byrd has a lot to prove as a senior but he certainly has the blend of size and deep speed it takes to emerge as a first-round draft pick.

    32. New England Patriots -- Brian Cushing, OLB, USC
    The Patriots continue a recent trend of drafting linebackers by using this selection on the versatile Cushing. The 6-5, 248-pounder has experience on the strong side and as a rush linebacker, which will be attractive to a New England coaching staff that likes versatility in its linebackers.

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  • IlliniVikeFan23
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    I don't have insider so I can't read that article. Who are his top five?

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by IlliniVikeFan23 View Post
    Didn't either Kiper or McShay have Al Woods the first pick in the draft?
    McShay did. Kiper doesn't make mocks very early.

    McShay is an idiot. He has Fili Moala #1 and he doesn't have Beanie Wells in his first round, and he thinks Wells is one of the more overrated players in the country because he "isn't a good receiver."

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...2=stateChanged

    McShay has the worst top 5 picks on the internet in his 2009 mock. Easily.

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  • IlliniVikeFan23
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    Didn't either Kiper or McShay have Al Woods the first pick in the draft?

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by MMONTERO View Post
    I had Al Woods because I predicted he would win the starting job. Looks like he's just lazy. That's fine though because I already took him out before Nevis moved ahead of him.
    Like I say all the time, but you never listen.

    You can't put a player in the first round that hasn't done anything.

    If Al Woods can't or struggles to crack the starting lineup, it is illogical for you to put him in your first round.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by PuppyPuncher View Post
    You and Walter should put a random player in the top 10 and see if he shows up in any new mocks.
    I did with Eugene Monroe, though it wasn't random.

    Next thing I know Walter moves him into the 2nd, round, then first. Next thing I know NFLDraftScout.com has him ranked as the #1 OT for 2009.

    Also I had Vince Oghobaase in the first round of my mock before everyone else and the highest in my mock earlier than anyone at #10 in mid-April.

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  • MMONTERO
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    I had Al Woods because I predicted he would win the starting job. Looks like he's just lazy. That's fine though because I already took him out before Nevis moved ahead of him.

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