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  • miamidolphin4life
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    Originally posted by Jwarr37 View Post
    Eh, you can still **** it up. I thought I did a pretty good job with BPA
    I don't know... Faried with Lebron didn't make much sense to me. Faried doesn't work well in a half court offense. Anyone who could slow the game down would really limit your offense. Jrue is another ball handler but I know little about him so I'm not gonna state a case on his impact.

    Rest of your team was decent, but I don't think you could have beaten Indy.

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  • Robley
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    Cavs #1, none of you know anything.

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  • miamidolphin4life
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    Celtics aren't that good but they have Lebron so they're really good if that makes sense.

    I like Footsy but Seattle is terrible. In a four team playoff, there's no way that team woulda made it, much less win a division championship. But they made a run and actually have a chance to win a title. Congrats.

    Spurs and Lakers were the two best in west and Indy, Boston, Philly, Washington were the best teams from the East IMO.

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  • Jwarr37
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    Originally posted by vikingfan View Post
    I honestly think anyone could make a title team on here, all you need is lebron and that's it.
    Eh, you can still **** it up. I thought I did a pretty good job with BPA

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  • vikingfan
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    I honestly think anyone could make a title team on here, all you need is lebron and that's it.

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  • Robley
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    Originally posted by InjuredReserve View Post
    The Thunder weren't anywhere near the same quality of team with Westbrook out of the lineup. Sure Durant still puts up his stats, but it was nowhere near the same team and it was a heavily discussed issue. So I think it is fair to question why people are doubting Lebron when his career has been marked with more individual success than Durants. But, it isn't even just a one on one comparison that people are trying to make. Compare both teams and Seattle isn't comparable.
    I misread and thought you said "Durant doesn't even look that good without Westbrook in the lineup" and obviously anyone putting up a 34-11-7 (which was actually a 31/9/6 overall, though his numbers were up around 34/11/7 through the first 6 or so games) in the playoffs could in no way be called 'not that good.' But either way, you said "Durant doesn't even look that good with Westbrook in the lineup," which I also don't get since a full season of 28-8-5 with the 50-40-90 to boot can't be called 'not that good' in any way either. As for the more individual success for LeBron thing, I wouldn't say that's fair.

    Over their first 6 seasons, each from the ages of 19 through 24, their averages are:

    LeBron - 27.5 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.7 APG, 47.0 FG%, 32.8 3P%, 73.7 FT%

    Durant - 26.6 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 3.1 APG, 47.5 FG%, 37.3 3P%, 88.4 FT%

    With their 6th seasons of:

    LeBron - 28.4 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 7.2 APG, 48.9 FG%, 34.4 3P%, 78.0 FT%

    Durant - 28.1 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 4.6 APG, 51.0 FG%, 41.6 3P%, 90.5 FT%

    They both missed the playoffs in their first 2 seasons and made it in years 3 through 6.

    LeBron's 1st year - lost in the 2nd round, 30.8 8.1 5.8 47.6/33.3/73.7

    2nd year - lost in the Finals, 25.1 8.1 8.0 41.6/28.0/75.5

    3rd year - lost in the 2nd round, 28.2 7.8 7.6 41.1/25.7/73.1

    4th year - lost in the ECF, 35.3 9.1 7.3 51.0/33.3/74.9

    Durant's 1st year - lost in the 1st round, 25.0 7.7 2.3 35.0/28.6/87.1

    2nd year - lost in the WCF, 28.6 8.2 2.8 44.9/33.9/83.8

    3rd year - lost in the Finals, 28.5 7.4 3.7 51.7/37.3/86.4

    4th year - lost in the 2nd round, 30.8 9.0 6.3 45.5/31.4/83.0

    Adjusted for age, is there really much of a difference in how much they've done? If you decide Durant's superior shooting splits roughly cancel out LeBron's superior assist numbers, they're damn near identical (and I'd argue the shooting splits are more important, frankly).

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  • Leelee
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    LeBron's team is better

    **** you guys

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  • Daniel Brown
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    Originally posted by InjuredReserve View Post
    I said they would be a danger not that the Celtics would lose. That was a close vote for me, but I stand by the Celtics as the better team in that matchup.
    Because at the end of the day LeBron>all.

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  • Jwarr37
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    Originally posted by InjuredReserve View Post
    Besides that though the Celtics are the better built team and matchup well here. The Celtics would be in danger against teams with strong big men, but that is precisely Seattle's weakness. So I don't see how this voting is close.
    Thanks, but I got to the finals facing teams with better big men than me.

    EDIT: oh you already answered dat

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  • InjuredReserve
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    Originally posted by Daniel Brown View Post
    Which is funny because you and many others voted for the Celtics against CH's Pacers.
    I said they would be a danger not that the Celtics would lose. That was a close vote for me, but I stand by the Celtics as the better team in that matchup.

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  • InjuredReserve
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    Originally posted by GongKong View Post
    What are you talking about? Durant is a beast that can handle the pressure, and if it wasnt' for Wade, LeBron would still be winless and all of you would hate him, instead you worship him, and suck on his balls for no good reason.

    **** LeBron, he isn't championship quality. He is the Dan Marino of basketball.
    Originally posted by Robley View Post
    Uh...what? The first two rounds after Westbrook went down, Durant was averaging a 34-11-7 or some **** like that.
    The Thunder weren't anywhere near the same quality of team with Westbrook out of the lineup. Sure Durant still puts up his stats, but it was nowhere near the same team and it was a heavily discussed issue. So I think it is fair to question why people are doubting Lebron when his career has been marked with more individual success than Durants. But, it isn't even just a one on one comparison that people are trying to make. Compare both teams and Seattle isn't comparable.

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  • BB3
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    Celtics are clearly better than the Sonics.

    I'm still sulking over the fact that the finals wasnt Pacers and Lakers. In reality, I think the Pacers should've won the whole thing. I really thought Pek and Boozer got underrated.

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  • RoflDogs
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    Still mad that I didn't make the playoffs

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  • Daniel Brown
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    Originally posted by InjuredReserve View Post
    Besides that though the Celtics are the better built team and matchup well here. The Celtics would be in danger against teams with strong big men, but that is precisely Seattle's weakness. So I don't see how this voting is close.
    Which is funny because you and many others voted for the Celtics against CH's Pacers.

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  • Robley
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    Originally posted by InjuredReserve View Post
    Even if you hold this view I don't think it holds water when Lebron is up against Kevin Durant. Durant doesn't even look that good with Russell Westbrook in the lineup and Deron Williams is not a legitimate substitute for that imo. So even if you aren't looking at the entire teams you would have to go with Lebron over Durant considering they both lean on teammates.

    Besides that though the Celtics are the better built team and matchup well here. The Celtics would be in danger against teams with strong big men, but that is precisely Seattle's weakness. So I don't see how this voting is close.
    Uh...what? The first two rounds after Westbrook went down, Durant was averaging a 34-11-7 or some **** like that.

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