Udpated Mock Draft

[Craig Smith]

Sorry, its been awhile since i have updated, and sorry Walter, i havent had a chance to input into the template for you. Just had alot of other stuff going on at the moment...

But here is a quick rundown
Round 1
1 Miami (0-11/.534) Jake Long, OT, Michigan

2T New York Jets (2-9/.523) Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

2T St. Louis (2-9/.523 ) Chris Long, DE, Virginia

4 New England (from San Francisco)(3-8/.466) Glen Dorsey, DT, LSU

5 Atlanta (3-8/.506) Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

6 Oakland (3-8/.517) Calias Campbell, DE, Miami

7 Cincinnati (4-7/.472 ) Kenny Phillips, S, Miami

8T Kansas City (4-7/.500) Sam Baker, OT, USC

8T Baltimore (4-7/.500) Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State

10 Carolina (4-7/.540) Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky

11 Arizona (5-6/.438) James Laurenitis, ILB, Ohio State

12 New Orleans (5-6/.472) – Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State

13 Buffalo (5-6/.506) – DeSean Jackson, WR. California

14 Houston (5-6/.511) – Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon

15T Minnesota (5-6/.528) – Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma

15T Denver (5-6/.528) – Keith Rivers, LB, USC

17 Chicago (5-6/.563) Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville

18T Washington (5-6/.568) Rey Mauluaga, ILB, USC

18T Philadelphia (5-6/.568) Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State

20 Tennessee (6-5/.494) – Early Doucet, WR, LSU

21 San Diego (6-5/.528) Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC

22 Detroit (6-5/.551) Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona

23 Seattle (7-4/.409) Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn

24 Dallas (from Cleveland) (7-4/.426) Frank Okam, DT, Texas

25 Tampa Bay (7-4/.455) Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers

26 New York Giants (7-4/.511) Godser Cherilus, OT, Boston College

27 Pittsburgh (8-3/.443) Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida

28 Jacksonville (8-3/.511) D.J. Hall, WR, Alabama

29 San Francisco (from Indianapolis)( 9-2/.511) Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin

30 Green Bay (10-1/.472) Terrell Thomas, DB, USC

31 Dallas (10-1/.477) James Hardy, WR, Indiana

32 New England (pick forfeited)(11-0/.449)

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Round 2
1 Miami (0-11/.534) Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU

2T New York Jets (2-9/.523) DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College

2T St. Louis (2-9/.523 ) Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi

4 San Francisco(3-8/.466) Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson

5 Atlanta (3-8/.506) Steve Slaton, RB, West Virginia

6 Oakland (3-8/.517) Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbuilt

7 Cincinnati (4-7/.472 ) Vince Hall, ILB, Virginia Tech

8T Kansas City (4-7/.500) Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M

8T Baltimore (4-7/.500) Xavier Adibi, OLB, Virginia Tech

10 Carolina (4-7/.540) Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC

11 Arizona (5-6/.438) Reggie Smith, DB, Oklahoma

12 New Orleans (5-6/.472) – Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose State

13 Buffalo (5-6/.506) – Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU

14 Atlanta (through Houston) (5-6/.511) Donnie Avery, WR, Houston

15T Minnesota (5-6/.528) Eric Ainge, QB, Tennessee

15T Denver (5-6/.528) – Mike Hart, RB, Michigan

17 Chicago (5-6/.563) Kevin Smith, RB, Central Florida

18T Washington (5-6/.568) Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida

18T Philadelphia (5-6/.568) – Erin Henderson, OLB, Maryland

20 Tennessee (6-5/.494) – Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State

21 Miami (from San Diego) (6-5/.528) Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan

22 Detroit (6-5/.551) Ezra Butler, LB, Nevada

23 Seattle (7-4/.409) Tashard Choice, RB, Georgia Tech

24 Cleveland (7-4/.426) Craig Steltz, S, LSU

25 Tampa Bay (7-4/.455) Dre Moore, DT, Maryland

26 New York Giants (7-4/.511) Phillip Wheeler, LB, Georgia Tech

27 Pittsburgh (8-3/.443) Roy Shuening, OG, Oregon State

28 Jacksonville (8-3/.511) Chris Ellis, DE, Virginia Tech

29 Indianapolis( 9-2/.511) Curtis Gatewood, OLB, Vanderbuilt

30 Green Bay (10-1/.472) Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina

31 Dallas (10-1/.477) Jamaal Charles, RB, Texas

32 New England(11-0/.449) Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU

[Walter]

I had a dilemma with the Jets pick. McFadden or no McFadden? They have so much money tied into the running back position and no defense. Still, I can't argue if they do take McFadden.

[starqb14]

very interesting. could probably switch ikegwuonu and thomas around (sf/gb) but the chris johnson pick is a good one if he's still there, since the semi-emergence of ryan grant. nice job overall as well. another guy I think the Pack will really like is chris ellis from VT. if they trade back he may be a target earlier rd2.

they will probably be able to hit tight end and fullback in rds. 3 & 4. maybe even two tight ends.

[Matt McGuire]

Where would Dorsey play on NE's DL?

Ty Warren: LDE
Vince Wilfork: NT
Richard Seymour: RDE

And all were first round picks. If NE drafts Chris Long they draft him as an OLB. They will not draft DL. I mean this team is ridiculously talented and deep, but there is enough need there for 3rd round picks to make this team at ILB, CB, and FS. (their biggest needs).

[starqb14]

Where would Dorsey play on NE's DL?

Ty Warren: LDE
Vince Wilfork: NT
Richard Seymour: RDE

And all were first round picks. If NE drafts Chris Long they draft him as an OLB. They will not draft DL. I mean this team is ridiculously talented and deep, but there is enough need there for 3rd round picks to make this team at ILB, CB, and FS. (their biggest needs).

what happens if wilfork tears his acl in preseason? dorsey would be a nice fallback. also, they could just rotate to prevent fatigue. dorsey might even be quick enough to rotate at end some.

[Craig Smith]

Where would Dorsey play on NE's DL?

Ty Warren: LDE
Vince Wilfork: NT
Richard Seymour: RDE

And all were first round picks. If NE drafts Chris Long they draft him as an OLB. They will not draft DL. I mean this team is ridiculously talented and deep, but there is enough need there for 3rd round picks to make this team at ILB, CB, and FS. (their biggest needs).

Yes ththose are their biggest needs. But who are they going to take at that spot?

New England is going to be in a tight spot. Obviously they will want to trade down with someone, but barring that they have two choices. Take the BPA, and if your New England who is going to argue with you? Or meach for a Kenny Phillips or maybe a Malcolm Jenkins if Asante Samuels leaves in the offseason...

I wouldn't be suprised if they took Dorsey, then either tried to trade his rights, or to trade Wilfork to try and get back in their to pick up a Linebacker...

Its kind of a hypocritical argument since you got them taking Darren McFadden when 2 years ago they spent a first rounder on Maroney. Where is McFadden going to play especiially in their newfound pass happy offense?

[Matt McGuire]

Yes ththose are their biggest needs. But who are they going to take at that spot?

New England is going to be in a tight spot. Obviously they will want to trade down with someone, but barring that they have two choices. Take the BPA, and if your New England who is going to argue with you? Or meach for a Kenny Phillips or maybe a Malcolm Jenkins if Asante Samuels leaves in the offseason...

I wouldn't be suprised if they took Dorsey, then either tried to trade his rights, or to trade Wilfork to try and get back in their to pick up a Linebacker...

Its kind of a hypocritical argument since you got them taking Darren McFadden when 2 years ago they spent a first rounder on Maroney. Where is McFadden going to play especiially in their newfound pass happy offense?

If Malcolm Jenkins has good post season workouts I think he is good enough to take at #4 overall if Jake Long, Darren McFadden, and Chris Long (if they plan to use him as an OLB hybrid only) are all off the board.

If the Pats are picking 5th, I think you are getting good enough value to take Kenny Phillips, James Laurinaitis, Ryan Clady, and if they want to look at a hybrid maybe Vernon Gholston/Derrick Harvey depending on their post season workouts.

The thing is I am not so sure if the hybrid is a need at all with New England if they plan to take an ILB in round 2 or 3 which I am sure is what they plan to do (someone like J Leman, Ben Moffitt, Beau Bell, Vince Hall, etc.) so they can move Adalius Thomas outside. How much longer does Mike Vrabel have left...must be evaluated. But I think considering Asante Samuel wants big money it would be best to take Malcolm Jenkins considering how overrated their pass coverage is.

[Matt McGuire]

Where is McFadden going to play especiially in their newfound pass happy offense?

Runningback? I big plus to McFadden is his versatility as a receiver and runner after the catch like a Reggie Bush. Maybe NE throws it a lot in shotgun because they don't have confidence in Laurence Maroney?

McFadden is just such a good player he presents great value to them and their offense, if they want to cut their punter who is going to argue?

The thing with taking Dorsey even though he is such a great talent, is that they have already stacked their DL with first round picks, and I'm not so sure Dorsey would be the kind of playmaker/upgrade that would give them adequate value to take in the draft period because he is a bad fit in the 3-4 defense. Taking Dorsey leaves the Patriots with a lot of needs still to be addressed.

Now taking McFadden doesn't necessarilly fill a need, but he is a big upgrade over Laurence Maroney (I don't care if he was a first rounder), and Maroney becomes expendable. A team like the NY Giants, Detroit, or Seattle would consider trading their first round pick for Maroney.

Then New England could get back in round 1. Spend the first on McFadden, try to shop Maroney for a first rounder, and if they get back in round 1 they can take a CB or ILB.

[Craig Smith]

And i could completely agree with that, but in my mock, McFadden is no longer available, (if he was then he is the BPA and they do take him) That being said the best player available at that point in time in my opinion is Dorsey, who is obviously worthy of the #1 overall pick since alot of people seem to think Miami may take him #1 overall...

[Matt McGuire]

And i could completely agree with that, but in my mock, McFadden is no longer available, (if he was then he is the BPA and they do take him) That being said the best player available at that point in time in my opinion is Dorsey, who is obviously worthy of the #1 overall pick since alot of people seem to think Miami may take him #1 overall...

Just because Dorsey is worhty of the #1 overall pick doesn't mean thats a good reason for the Patriots to take him.

It's no different than with Aaron Rodgers. He was worthy of the #1 overall pick, then another 20 teams passes on him. But based on your logic Craig they should have taken him since...

"he is obviously worthy of the #1 overall pick since alot of people seem to think San Francisco may take him #1 overall."

It's no different.

[animal52]

Good luck to anyone trying to guess who Miami will take #1 overall. Most of the postings have made sense to me but let's not forget the choices Miami made in 2007.... Ted Ginn Jr. #9 overall??? A team that has so many holes needs the "best athlete", regardless of position. So who do you take between the 2 Longs, Dorsey, or McFadden? Then, who do you think they'll pick?

[Matt McGuire]

Good luck to anyone trying to guess who Miami will take #1 overall. Most of the postings have made sense to me but let's not forget the choices Miami made in 2007.... Ted Ginn Jr. #9 overall??? A team that has so many holes needs the "best athlete", regardless of position. So who do you take between the 2 Longs, Dorsey, or McFadden? Then, who do you think they'll pick?

#9 overall and #1 overall are 2 totally different picks. We will know from sources though who they will take if they don't do a preliminary draft signing.

Ted Ginn wasn't as bad a pick as much of it was a shocker to us. If not Ginn (or Quinn since Cameron didn't like him), then who?

I think they made the right pick other than Quinn. Ginn did fill a huge need.

[Walter]

Patrick Willis would have filled a huge need too.

[Matt McGuire]

Patrick Willis would have filled a huge need too.

Channing Crowder says hi.

[Walter]

...as he tries to decipher the British language.

Replacement for Zach Thomas is what I meant.