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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by jimmyp View Post
    Shockey is a very solid TE, however I do agree with a point a number of people have been making is that when he's on the field, he becomes Eli's outlet guy. So much so that Eli probably doesn't focus on his progression and the other receivers as much because old reliable "Jremee" will be there underneath. When he got injured, I think Eli started spreading the ball around a lot more. I saw more throws to Toomer, Smith, Moss and this Tyree guy who caught a ball with his freaking helmet in the superbowl!

    I don't think Moss is done, this was only his 2nd year. However, if Toomer goes, they do need another guy with good hands.
    From what I gather Moss has fallen to sixth on the depth chart behind Tyree and Domenik Hixon. While he'll still be with the Giants, I think you can officially label him a bust now.

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  • jimmyp
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    Originally posted by Mark View Post
    Good points about the receivers. Steve Smith looks great (despite that pass he knocked in the air and got intercepted). I do not think the Giants will miss a beat when Amani Toomer retires. Now, when they develop Sinorice Moss, the Giants will be plenty of solid targets for Eli to use.
    Steve Smith was only a rookie, he should continue to improve. So should Moss, who also has great speed. That bobbled catch for a pick was just bad luck, but I really liked the way Smith caught pretty much everything thrown at him for the rest of the game. Some people would have though after the pick, "Man I just effed up the superbowl." Full credit to Steve Smith "Jr" showing ticker.

    Toomer will be missed, period. He has great chemistry with Eli, and in the playoffs made some spectacular sideline, toe-dragging catches. I'd try and replace him via free agency to keep some experience in the WR core.

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  • Mark
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    Good points about the receivers. Steve Smith looks great (despite that pass he knocked in the air and got intercepted). I do not think the Giants will miss a beat when Amani Toomer retires. Now, when they develop Sinorice Moss, the Giants will be plenty of solid targets for Eli to use.

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  • jimmyp
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    Originally posted by giantsfanmike View Post
    They need a new slot receiver in case Toomer retires. Moss is done and Tyree despite his heroics is a number 4 at best. Possibly need a good nickel for the future, not sold on Dockery.

    Theres too much money invested in Shockey to quit on him, and Boss is a decent second stringer to bring on. I like Shockey btw and I think any heat he had with anyone in the organization went out the window last night.
    Shockey is a very solid TE, however I do agree with a point a number of people have been making is that when he's on the field, he becomes Eli's outlet guy. So much so that Eli probably doesn't focus on his progression and the other receivers as much because old reliable "Jremee" will be there underneath. When he got injured, I think Eli started spreading the ball around a lot more. I saw more throws to Toomer, Smith, Moss and this Tyree guy who caught a ball with his freaking helmet in the superbowl!

    I don't think Moss is done, this was only his 2nd year. However, if Toomer goes, they do need another guy with good hands.

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  • jimmyp
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    Originally posted by Walter View Post
    Eli Manning though - where did this come from? He led the league in turnovers and all of a sudden he turns into the third-best QB in the NFL.
    Phoenix from the flames of the New York newspapers.

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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by vbsiena24 View Post
    O ok. That seems like a stupid rule. I'm curious as to the justification of it.
    I've no idea either its quite dumb, IMO. Possibly incase a player is standing on crutches near the side and a player or two crashes out and collides with them?

    Stupid, I know, but thats all I can think of.

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  • Vbsiena
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    Originally posted by giantsfanmike View Post
    Players on IR aren't allowed on the sidelines.
    O ok. That seems like a stupid rule. I'm curious as to the justification of it.

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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by vbsiena24 View Post
    why wasn't Shockey standing on the sidelines with his teammates yesterday? I thought I saw him drinking a beer up in a luxury box. Doesn't sound like the type of teammate I'd like to have on my team if he wants to alienate himself during the Superbowl.
    Players on IR aren't allowed on the sidelines.

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  • Vbsiena
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    why wasn't Shockey standing on the sidelines with his teammates yesterday? I thought I saw him drinking a beer up in a luxury box. Doesn't sound like the type of teammate I'd like to have on my team if he wants to alienate himself during the Superbowl.

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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
    WR? Plax and Steve Smith this team is set.

    CB? Aaron Ross, Corey Webster played dynamite...not a huge need here but maybe for depth.

    I think TE...Kevin Boss can do some good things but he is a 2nd stringer and Shockey's game has fallen off a bit. They need more speed at this position.
    They need a new slot receiver in case Toomer retires. Moss is done and Tyree despite his heroics is a number 4 at best. Possibly need a good nickel for the future, not sold on Dockery.

    Theres too much money invested in Shockey to quit on him, and Boss is a decent second stringer to bring on. I like Shockey btw and I think any heat he had with anyone in the organization went out the window last night.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    WR? Plax and Steve Smith this team is set.

    CB? Aaron Ross, Corey Webster played dynamite...not a huge need here but maybe for depth.

    I think TE...Kevin Boss can do some good things but he is a 2nd stringer and Shockey's game has fallen off a bit. They need more speed at this position.

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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
    The Giants do need to address DT in the Draft...they are so far under the cap they might even be able to sign Lance Briggs...which is sick.

    I still think they need a runningback, and it is why I gave them Jamaal Charles then I got busted for that, but lik you said Jacobs is an overrated player.
    I think Jacobs helped wear down the Pats D since he is so tough to wear down.

    In the off-season the Giants will need to upgrade at SS and OLB, possibly also CB, WR and DT.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    The Giants do need to address DT in the Draft...they are so far under the cap they might even be able to sign Lance Briggs...which is sick.

    I still think they need a runningback, and it is why I gave them Jamaal Charles then I got busted for that, but lik you said Jacobs is an overrated player.

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  • schmidty
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    I give the Giants all the credit in the world and they played great, espcially defeating all 3 NFC teams on the road and then embarrasing the hell out of the Pats. The Giants made the big plays to catapult themselves as the best team that the NFL has to offer for the 2007-2008 season. I think we will now see the demise of the Patriots!! Defense is to old, Moss may not come back, dealing with congress. Kraft, Bellichic better get ready to really earn thier paychecks now!! Hahaha

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  • Walter
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    They'd never speak to each other ever again haha

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