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    The player whose stock went up the most in this game is Harry Douglas WR UL. He isn't a product of the system. He is fast and he really has great hands. Great with YAC. Imo, he is now a first round NFL draft prospect. With a good 40 time he could be a first round lock.

    BIG PLAYERS...MAKE BIG PLAYS...IN BIG GAMES.

    Andre' Woodson is a great football player and imo he just backs me up in my evaluation that he is now 5 star NFL Draft prospect. He made a HUGE play with :28 seconds left on a 57 yard bomb for the game winner. Mentally he's got ice in his veins. He steps up and make big plays when his team needs him to. Watch the play action 65 yard play to DeMoreo Ford in the Music City Bowl last year. He is in the mold of Carson Palmer and he now becomes the clear consensus #1 QB in the 2007 NFL Draft.

    Brian Brohm's stock goes down a little bit in the minds of NFL scouts. While his deep ball accuracy can be amazing, he isn't going to have all day to throw the ball in the NFL. He is going to have to makes plays with his legs: run for short-medium gains, roll out of the pocket and throw on the run, and to summarize just improvise. He showed a lot of poise when UK had momentum and he made some great great throws. But when it comes down to it, he is a little overrated because his offense is designed so well. On a few intermediate throws a few of his throws are just off, and when he misses he misses behind his receivers. Not to say Woodson is Mr. Perfect. He missed a few throws in this game that could have been big and he misses high sometimes. But you can't debate with his 250 or so pass attempts with an interception. Brohm sometimes careless throws when his receivers aren't wide open. He simply isn't on the same level as Andre' Woodson and it showed in this game.

    Jacob Tamme in my mind could emerge as the best TE in the country. He made a TD catch with a LBer all over him, one handed and he is just Mr. Clutch. His deep threat speed showed. I don't think he is on the same level of Greg Olsen, but he is a very solid mid-late round 2 draft pick.

    Wesley Woodyard didn't have a very good game imo. He is a round 6-7 draft prospect. He just doesn't have the size to be a starter in the NFL.

    Eric Scott (C, UK) had a good game. Athletic. Room for more bulk on his frame. A late round prospect great fit in a ZBS scheme but I think he can play in about any scheme except for a Pittsburgh type offense that relies on pounding the ball with bigger lineman.

    Malik Jackson (OLB, UL) had a below average game. He isn't as fast as his 4.6 40 time would indicate. Didn't make any big stops when UL needed it. Late round prospect.

    Mario Urrutia's stock takes a huge dip in this game. He is soft. He might be 6'6 220, but he plays like 5'10 190. Scared to get hit, doesn't make circus catches. Brohm really doesn't trust him and he relies on Douglas quite a bit, and rightly so. Urrutia won't come out for this draft, but if he did he is a round 5-6 prospect.
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  • #2
    I'll eat my crow, but I never predicted the results of this game. My calling you out wasn't saying Brohm was better then Woodson, or that Louisville is better then Kentucky. I called you out because you said you were a "draft expert".
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mark View Post
      I'll eat my crow, but I never predicted the results of this game. My calling you out wasn't saying Brohm was better then Woodson, or that Louisville is better then Kentucky. I called you out because you said you were a "draft expert".
      Tell me why I'm not. My evaluations of players so far this season for the most part have been dead on. My analysis of them is very good in pointing out strengths and weaknesses.

      There are a lot of football experts on message boards. I have been really been impressed with some kids on NFL DraftCountdown and Footballs Future. They see things before the media does. The smarter kids are extremely objective and aren't homers.

      Tell me why I'm not an expert. After that game tongith, there is no justification to say Brohm is better than Woodson. He isn't as versatile and he is in a great offense designed for WRs to be absolutely wide open. His OL is amazing, but so was Woodson's tongiht. The difference is we know Woodson can make plays outside the pocket. We know Brohm can't. Therefore, the NFL will be a tougher for Brohm more so than for Woodson (of course this depends on other factors such as coaching and talent around them). You can't debate that Brohm handles pressure well. He can't stand in the pocket and take a hit like Woodson. He throws the ball into dangerous spots where Woodson doesn't.

      Woodson will be drafted ahead of Brian Brohm. Eat your crow on draft day. There is a reason why I have had Woodson ranked ahead of Brohm ever since the end of last season and then pro football scouts like Todd McShay and Mel Kiper have Woodson ahead of Brohm since last Tuesday.

      I know what I am talking about. My analysis deserves respect. It's only being ****y if you can't back it. I back my **** up.
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      • #4
        Woodson is the man, but I wouldn't say Brohm's stock went down in that game.

        Woodyard has to move to safety for the NFL. He doesn't have the size to be a LB, but he may have the 40 to have teams consider him as a safety.

        You didn't mention Harry Douglas. I thought he was awesome.

        Urrutia's definitely not a round 5-6 prospect.
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        • #5
          ex·pert /n., v. ˈɛkspɜrt; adj. ˈɛkspɜrt, ɪkˈspɜrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[n., v. ek-spurt; adj. ek-spurt, ik-spurt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.a person who has special skill or knowledge in some particular field; specialist; authority:



          Person who has special knowledge in a field...

          I think anyone who studies a particular topic extensively can be considered an expert, even if they don't work for a major corporation like ESPN.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Walter View Post
            Woodson is the man, but I wouldn't say Brohm's stock went down in that game.

            Woodyard has to move to safety for the NFL. He doesn't have the size to be a LB, but he may have the 40 to have teams consider him as a safety.

            You didn't mention Harry Douglas. I thought he was awesome.

            Urrutia's definitely not a round 5-6 prospect.
            Have you watched Urrutia? Trevard Lindley shut his @$$ down in this game. Once he plays a real SEC corner he gets shut down, why does that not shock me? Walter, I just think you are mesmirized with his size. Urrutia is scared to go over the middle and he drops a lot of passes. He doesn't use his size to his advantage.

            OMFG, how did I not mention Harry Douglas? His stock went up so much in this game. He has speed. He has hands. He runs great routes. Really looks like he can sneak into the first round if he has a good 40 time. Elusive after the catch. I really hate comparing players to other players based on race or their alma mater, but he does look a lot like Deion Branch.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Walter View Post
              ex·pert /n., v. ˈɛkspɜrt; adj. ˈɛkspɜrt, ɪkˈspɜrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[n., v. ek-spurt; adj. ek-spurt, ik-spurt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.a person who has special skill or knowledge in some particular field; specialist; authority:



              Person who has special knowledge in a field...

              I think anyone who studies a particular topic extensively can be considered an expert, even if they don't work for a major corporation like ESPN.

              What does Webster's say about "hater"?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Walter View Post
                Woodyard has to move to safety for the NFL. He doesn't have the size to be a LB, but he may have the 40 to have teams consider him as a safety.
                Well, you are right for the most part, but I wonder if a team would take him in round 5 and be willing to spend 1.5 years to develop his body physically for the NFL and play LBer. It would be worth the gamble imo if they feel like they can add 17 pounds on his 6'2/215 frame.
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                • #9
                  Woodyard would be a nice fit for BUF WILL LB. 215 might be a bit small but 5 pounds would be nice.

                  Coy Wire is 6-0 220 - Back-Up WILL
                  Keith Ellison is 6-0 229 - Starting WILL

                  They like LB'ers that can run. Wire played SS for his 1st 4/5 years.

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                  • #10
                    Matt, if you are calling me a hater, you are way off. I don't call people experts when they make two accurate mock drafts. I never said he had to work for a big corporation to be an expert, because most of the "experts" on ESPN are jokes. I just think that is being very arrogant. But, thats just me. Am I a NBA draft grade expert because I did it for two years? No.
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                    • #11
                      I'm not arrogant because I back it up. Arrogant people talk but they don't have anything to show for it.

                      Chad Johnson isn't ****y or arrogant. He backs everything he says/does up on the field. He has a right to.

                      With my analysis, I look ahead of what everyone else sees. I said towards the end of last year that Andre' Woodson is the best QB in the country. Come D-Day 2008 I expect everyone on this board to eat their crow when Woodson is the first QB off teh board...and it will be very early in the draft. It wasn't me being a homer, my prediction was entirely objective because I saw something there and went with it with evidence to support my prediction.
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                      • #12
                        Listen Matt, get it threw your thick headed skull. I know you're a loner at college. But once again, making two mock drafts DOES NOT MAKE YOU A DRAFT EXPERT.
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                        1. #17 - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
                        2. #37 - Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU
                        2. #43 - Jonathan Hefney, FS, Tennessee
                        3. #74 - John David Booty, QB, USC
                        3. #82 - Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
                        4. #107 - Matt Forte, RB, Tulane

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mark View Post
                          Listen Matt, get it threw your thick headed skull. I know you're a loner at college. But once again, making two mock drafts DOES NOT MAKE YOU A DRAFT EXPERT.
                          No it doesn't. Lots of idiots have mock drafts. What makes me an expert is my accurate predictions.
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                          • #14
                            Two mock drafts doesn't make you an expert. It makes you reliable, but you need more then two accurate mock drafts to be an expert.
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                            2. #37 - Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU
                            2. #43 - Jonathan Hefney, FS, Tennessee
                            3. #74 - John David Booty, QB, USC
                            3. #82 - Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
                            4. #107 - Matt Forte, RB, Tulane

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mark View Post
                              Two mock drafts doesn't make you an expert. It makes you reliable, but you need more then two accurate mock drafts to be an expert.
                              Isn't that what I just said?
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