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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by Craig Smith View Post
    Coughlin is ridiculous. He beats his players into the ground and by mid-season they got nothing left

    Lets see, before back peddling on the statement, Pro Bowl Running Back Tiki Barber flat out said that he is why he retired. Not to mention previous public critisizm.

    Pro Bowl TE Jeremey Shockey has publically critisized him as well.

    Its ridiculous to release not only your LEft Tackle without a replacement, but 2/3 of your staring LB corps, without replacement.
    Surprisingly Dave Diehl has actually been very solid in both games so far against solid players in Ware and Kampman (whos sack only came due to Lorenzen holding onto the ball for an age outside of the pocket).

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  • Walter
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    Eli Manning would be really good with the Bears.

    I think we all have to give Manning a lot of credit for playing well given the amount of pressure he's under. He's a QB in New York for a team that gave up so much to draft him. He just needs to start coming through late in the year, which is something Peyton had trouble doing early in his career.

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  • Mark
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    Eli Manning could be great if he a shut-down defense. How good would the Bears be with Eli Manning?

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by Walter View Post
    And I think it's ridiculous to keep drafting defensive ends every year.

    Matt, I wouldn't pin the Giants' struggles on Eli Manning, but he doesn't seem the type of QB that players rally around to get out of a funk.
    Thats a great point Walter, this team has stacked up their DL too much and it is so obvious how many holes could have been filled on their defense. I never really thought about it but I think you are on to something.

    I mean, its hard to get out of a funk period. I like how I have seen Eli perform in the 2 minute drill and he has been very clutch at times...maybe you're wrong maybe you're right I have no idea...I think winning teams have leadership all across the board. Look at SB teams like the Bucs and Steelers in past seasons. There was a leader at every freaking position...and the division winners usually seem to have more leaders than the losing teams.

    I mean we can't blame Eli Manning...the Giants gave up a lot for him and quite frankly I don't think he was worth it.

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  • Walter
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    And I think it's ridiculous to keep drafting defensive ends every year.

    Matt, I wouldn't pin the Giants' struggles on Eli Manning, but he doesn't seem the type of QB that players rally around to get out of a funk.

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  • Craig Smith
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    Coughlin is ridiculous. He beats his players into the ground and by mid-season they got nothing left

    Lets see, before back peddling on the statement, Pro Bowl Running Back Tiki Barber flat out said that he is why he retired. Not to mention previous public critisizm.

    Pro Bowl TE Jeremey Shockey has publically critisized him as well.

    Its ridiculous to release not only your LEft Tackle without a replacement, but 2/3 of your staring LB corps, without replacement.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by Walter View Post
    Eli's problem has always been that after he starts hot, he fades in November and December. He also gets very rattled under pressure.
    True, but I don't think we can attribute to Giants struggles to Eli Manning.

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  • Walter
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    Eli's problem has always been that after he starts hot, he fades in November and December. He also gets very rattled under pressure.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by Adam Maciasz View Post
    I think Eli is very over rated and not your QB of the future. But that's only 1 problem with your Giants
    Eli has played very good this year...what games are you watching?

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  • Walter
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    Eli isn't great. He is erratic, but can be very good at times. The defense is horrendous though. They can't tackle at all.

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  • Adam Mac
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    I think Eli is very over rated and not your QB of the future. But that's only 1 problem with your Giants

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  • Walter
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    And even worse is that they tend to fade at the end of each year. Under him, the Giants have actually played well early but struggled in November and December. This year looks completely different.

    Why wasn't he fired after last season? Was it like Office Space, where Jerry Reese forgot to tell him that he's fired?

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by Walter View Post
    True, but they can't tackle at all. The Packers and Cowboys combined for 80 points. If Washington beats them, they'll be 0-3 and could quit on Coughlin.
    I'd hate to play for Coughlin...seems like that middle school coach that thinks he is the greatest thing since peanut butter but really doesn't get it done.

    Since when have the Giants truly played good, consistent football under him? That is the sign of a good coach and they just haven't done it.

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  • Walter
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    True, but they can't tackle at all. The Packers and Cowboys combined for 80 points. If Washington beats them, they'll be 0-3 and could quit on Coughlin.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by Walter View Post
    I still can't believe Reese said "The left tackle position is overrated."

    He's an idiot. The Giants are playing like they're dead.
    I heard on Mike and Mike that Pam Oliver said that there was absoultely no emotion on the Giants bench.

    This team obviously needs to draft a defensive leader. They need to have a draft like the Jets did 2 years ago and just draft smart players that are leaders on their football teams.

    The Giants aren't far away from going on a big run imo...I wasn't shocked at all when Eli came out and said that cuz I felt the same way. This team is going overlooked becaue they are 0-2, but they are by far the best 0-2 team at least offensively.

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