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  • PuppyPuncher
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    Nah, Al Davis's first round picks in the past 5 years aren't all that bad. Most of Matt Millen's picks aren't even on the roster and most of his late round picks don't make it out of training camp alive.

    Keep in mind that at one point, Al Davis was a genuis at putting together talent. He's obviously lost it, but at least he had it at some point.

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  • Leo Fender
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    I think Davis is worse than Millen...

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  • starqb14
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    Originally posted by animal52 View Post
    Am I allowed to brag that my team has the WORST GM (Matt Millen) in the league? Can anybody really argue with me on this?
    maybe matt millen is the illegitimate son of al davis.

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  • gq4ever
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    Originally posted by animal52 View Post
    Am I allowed to brag that my team has the WORST GM (Matt Millen) in the league? Can anybody really argue with me on this?
    Not only may you brag, but you can take the second and third place as well. LOL

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  • Matt McGuire
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    I mean it is a Bucs magazine so yeah they are going to pump up the team a bit and inflate the talent.

    Also, Bruce Allen has been a very successfull GM in this league for many years Reese doesn't have his experience so he isn't on Allen's level yet.

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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
    From PewterReport.com (premium insider service):

    So you are disappointed about the lack of activity in free agency from the Buccaneers, and you are wondering why the team passed on almost every big name available on the open market in March. Well the reason is because Tampa Bay thought its future playmakers were better than the so-called playmakers available in free agency.

    I say future playmakers because the Bucs believe the young nucelus of talent consisting of tight end Alex Smith, wide receivers Michael Clayton and Maurice Stovall, offensive linemen Jeremy Trueblood, Davin Joseph and Arron Sears, defensive linemen Gaines Adams, Jovan Haye and Greg White, linebackers Cato June and Barrett Ruud and defensive backs Tanard Jackson and Sabby Piscitelli have star potential, and will be the catalysts to make Tampa Bay a perennial playoff contender. By the way, all of those players are under the age of 29.

    By 2011, only Adams is scheduled to be under contract with Tampa Bay. That’s only four years away.

    In 2010, the contracts for Smith, Clayton, Stovall, Trueblood, Haye, White, June and Ruud will all have expired, and Joseph, Sears, Jackson and Piscitelli will be in the final years of their deals. That means that over the next two years, those players will need contract extensions, and the expectation is that they will have performed so well while turning Tampa Bay into a consistent winner that they will command top dollar in free agency.

    The Bucs have to have money available to pay for those players with whom the team has invested time, money and draft picks in. How does that impact what the Bucs are doing – or not doing – in free agency in 2008?

    Well, most contracts are backloaded, so if the Buccaneers were to overpay for mediocre talent, such as Javon Walker, who still has knee problems stemming from his torn ACL in 2005, or Donte` Stallworth, who is somehow considered an elite receiver despite being on his fourth team in four years, or Drayton Florence, who was paid $6 million per year to be Jacksonville’s nickel corner, those deals would end up squeezing the Bucs out of the money it needs to re-sign its own free agents in 2009 and 2010.

    As one team official told Pewter Report, free agency should be used to keep a team intact and to add a few necessary players, such as Tampa Bay did this year with the signing of center Jeff Faine. Keep in mind that the Bucs budgeted some of the $41 million in cap room they had at the start of free agency to extend the contracts of quarterback Jeff Garcia, halfback Earnest Graham, cornerback Phillip Buchanon and possibly the likes of Haye and White, too.

    If a non-Pro Bowl defensive end like Justin Smith gets a six-year, $45 million deal with $20 million in guarantees in 2008, what is a player like White going to command in 2011 when he would be eligible to test free agency (provided he has not signed a long-term extension with the Bucs by then)?

    If a middle of the road guard like Jacob Bell cashes in on a six-year, $36 million deal with $13 million in guaranteed money, what will the market bear for potential Pro Bowlers like Joseph and Sears in 2011?

    These are future scenarios the Bucs are thinking about in the present day. It is better for a team to keep its good, proven players than to go out and try to replace those players in free agency. Signing a player like Stallworth or Florence in 2008 may come at the expense of losing Ruud or Trueblood in 2010.
    Hes makes some good points, but the point about Michael Clayton, Maurice Stovall and Alex Smith is ridiculous.

    Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
    A.J. Smith of the Chargers and Scott Pioli of the Patriots.

    Bucs GM is Bruce Allen btw.
    Bruce Allen hasn't done anything to suggest hes better than Jerry Reese.

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  • Joey_Potter
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    Brag away Animal.

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  • PuppyPuncher
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    Originally posted by animal52 View Post
    Am I allowed to brag that my team has the WORST GM (Matt Millen) in the league? Can anybody really argue with me on this?
    The Ford family seems to.

    As for best GM, I'd have to go with AJ Smith.

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  • animal52
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    Am I allowed to brag that my team has the WORST GM (Matt Millen) in the league? Can anybody really argue with me on this?

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  • Joey_Potter
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    It has been proven that no one can do the GM and coaching job for a sustained period. Mike Holmgren did a great job at it but he was an oddity in that situation. Nolan will do much better I believe with only one job to concentrate on.

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  • 49ersfan
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    Mike Nolan is the WORST GM in the NFL (thankfully, he is only the coach now)

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  • bulldog0123
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    STEELERS have the top GM(kevin colbert)

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  • 49ersfan
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    Henne and Flacco will not go in the first round. Flacco's stock is going up, but not that much. He is too much of a project. As for Henne, his inconsistently will kill his chance of going in the first round.

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  • Joey_Potter
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    McCown is a good young QB. We just need to wait and see if he is a career backup or potential starter. I havent heard anything on it.

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  • starqb14
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    Originally posted by PuppyPuncher View Post
    It's as simple as not jumping to conclusions.

    Back on topic: The Buccaneers have done a solid job solidifying their offensive line for years, but I still think perennial playoff contender is a bit of a stretch. Jeff Garcia is old and still is likely to be battered by injuries and they need to figure out if Luke McCown is their QB of the future.
    does luke mccown also look like dolph lundgren? it would be totally awesome if he looked like jean-claude van damme. then he and his brother could "universal soldier" it out sometime.

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