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  • walt's new update 3/24

    check it out. totally bodaciously trementacular.

  • #2
    i like the mock, dude. this gb scenario is awesome. love the sleeper picks. tracy porter is a stud, who plays real physical and at 5 11 isn't too small.
    martellus bennett is a monster, as evidenced by the final clip on his rivals.com highlight vid, which is him locking on a DE and pancaking him.
    adibi is ok, but i'd like to see donnie avery, who btw ran a sub 4.4 with a bad hamstring. driver, jennings, avery, jones, robinson, and martin would be a formidable group of wrs. lots of touchdowns between avery and jennings.
    john greco is one of the top second-tier linemen out there, and you can't not like a guy like that on your team, whether you need him or not.
    LOVE the brian johnston pick. i have been super high on that guy for a while now.
    kevin oconnell has some favre in him, but moves super for a 6 6 guy.
    if the packers get the 4th rd compensatory they could nab owen schmitt, too, to give them a brutal power complement to their running game. if they can't get schmitt, they might be able to land brandon mcanderson in the 7th or as FA. he runs and pass blocks very physically and has great hands. would be excellent fit with grant and jackson.
    great job for the packers.
    i think maybe i'll go look at it for the rest of the picks

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    • #3
      1 - OT Jake Long
      good pick
      2a - QB Brian Brohm
      good pick
      2b - NT Pat Sims
      good pick
      2c - MLB Curtis Lofton
      good pick
      3 - TE Jermichael Finley
      good pick
      4 - OL Heath Benedict
      good pick
      5 - CB John Zenon
      good pick

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      • #4
        Mike Jenkins-Good pick, Derrick Harvey could be the pick but Mike is a decent pick
        Fred Davis-Great pick, but IDK Kentwan Balmer looks nice
        Mike Pollak-Not a fan, I think all the C's in this draft will just be avg. in the NFL and we have a avg. C in Fowler
        Steve Johnson-Don't know much about him so can't really like it or not, but I do like Jerome Simpson
        Owen Schmitt-Love it

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        • #5
          Glad you like the mock, guys
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          • #6
            Bleh!



            Well, I'm glad you guys like the way your team's panned out in this mock, because if the Vikings drafted like Walt has them in his latest mock, I will probably throw up.

            1: Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
            Yuck. This isn't a need position as much as the media would have you believe. Other comparable DE's will be available in the 2nd. Plus, if the organization passes up on a chance to snag Brian Brohm that late in the first, I'll have to seriously consider becoming a Packers fan.

            2: Reggie Smith, CB/S, Oklahoma
            No, no and no. Again, Safety is not a need position for this team and this guy definitally is not the BPA. The Vikings pass defense and overall defense was the strength of the team last year. Sure, they ranked poorly because everyone abandoned the running game against them, but Vikings pass defense was quite good from a down by down basis. The offense was the entire problem the last couple of years and we've just passed (mulitple times) on the chance to vastly improve our offense.

            3: Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky
            Oh. My. God. Most overrated QB in the draft this year and we reach to pick him? (Considering the Vikings recent draft history, I really shouldn't be so suprised to see this.) Ugh. Great. We're going into the season with a purely backup quality QB (Bollinger), plus an overrated rookie who should never start for a team in the near future (Woodson), and a Div2 washout who wouldn't even make the practice squad of most NFL teams (Jackson)! Brilliant! First pick of the 2009 draft, here we come!

            3: Tony Hills, OT, Texas
            The only pick through the first 3 rounds that made any sense for the Vikes.

            4: Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
            Hrm. with Shiancoe and Mills, I don't see the Vikings needing a backup caliber TE. They either need to upgrade the position with a better TE selection, or use this pick for something else. Once again, not the BPA.

            5: Frank Morton, DT, Tulane
            Two picks out of 6 ain't bad, right? Seriously, this and the Hills pick were the only ones that passed my draft test of acceptability.

            My draft grade for Minnesota would be a D-.

            Overall, the draft seems quite solid for most teams but it certainly doesn't seem to be very good at all for the Vikings. So, for the overall draft I'd give it a B+ but I would be sorely disappointed if my team were to draft close to this.
            Last edited by ZN0rseman; 03-24-2008, 01:30 PM.
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            WFB Comments on Vikings @ Steelers Game Rigging
            PuppyPuncher:"It sure was nice enough of Roger Goodell to let the refs from Ark-Florida officiate the Vikings-Steelers game"
            NoNonsenseCoach:"As a Steelers fan living in Pittsburgh I can still admit that tripping penalty was a complete ghost call."
            Simonds:"The tripping call was awful, yes, but there were a number of other absurd calls that went against the Vikings, including a DEFENSIVE delay of game penalty against the Vikings only called after a failed attempt to convert a third and 2 by the Steelers. Even the commentators were utterly floored that the refs made that call."
            Wraith36444:"A shady tripping call on Minnesota essentially gave the game to the Steelers. The Vikings were the better team, but it is too hard to beat a decent team and the refs. Oh and Harvin is the man."
            MaineMan:"I have to agree that it was an awful call and that it changed the outcome. Overall a great game by the Vikes and tragic that the well-deserved victory was stolen away like that."
            PaddyPatriot:"I've seen this play and I have to agree, I can't believe they called it tripping"
            Johndoe:"You know the officiating is bad when a Steeler's fan, like myself, thinks it was pretty bad."
            Steelers_Pens_Fan:"I will admit that the whole "tripping" thing probably shouldn't have been a flag."
            ZN0rseman:"It's great to know that good old fashioned pro football game rigging is still alive and well in America."
            Klunker18:"I'm with Z on this one. Definitely one of those games that makes you wonder if the NFL wants certain teams to win."
            TRICKaz"I agree that was a BS call"
            InjuredReserve:"Have yet to hear anyone say it was the right call. Seems as if the Vikings were cheated a bit."
            Eagles4Life:"Coaches just need to be able to challenge penalties"
            EL_Guapo:"The tripping call was bad, the delay of game was stupid Either way, the Vikings showed they are a top team."
            EllijayFalconsFan:"The tripping penalty was rediculous."
            Archon095:"Even as a Steeler fan I agree that the call was bull."
            BroncosCon:"I'm sorry that was a total bull**** call and it changed the outcome of the game. Pittsburgh still won, but it was almost like Denver winning at Cincy."

            Tony Dungy:"The Vikings are just one bad tripping penalty away from being undefeated.
            Jon Gruden:"That was just a bad, bad call. It cost the Vikings an important win at Pittsburgh, and it could really hurt them in the post season."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Walter View Post
              Glad you like the mock, guys

              it's so much easier to appreciate a mock that goes in-depth and addresses things through five rounds.

              on another note, the more i watch of cason and porter, in particular, the more i think they will be BPA at 30. my problem with flowers isn't his speed, it's his height, and rumor has it that thompson won't touch any corners lower than 5 10 and even if they're close to that they better be darn good. flowers is 5 9 1/2 i think. porter is 5 11 and cason is 6 0. that works. talib plays coverage like kind of a softie, don't you think, from watching him? i mean he tackles ok but isn't a real destructive presence in coverage like those other three. keep an eye on the for fun forum mock. i'm gonna show you how it's done. maybe. kindof.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ZN0rseman View Post


                Well, I'm glad you guys like the way your team's panned out in this mock, because if the Vikings drafted like Walt has them in his latest mock, I will probably throw up.

                1: Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
                Yuck. This isn't a need position as much as the media would have you believe. Other comparable DE's will be available in the 2nd. Plus, if the organization passes up on a chance to snag Brian Brohm that late in the first, I'll have to seriously consider becoming a Packers fan.

                2: Reggie Smith, CB/S, Oklahoma
                No, no and no. Again, Safety is not a need position for this team and this guy definitally is not the BPA. The Vikings pass defense and overall defense was the strength of the team last year. Sure, they ranked poorly because everyone abandoned the running game against them, but Vikings pass defense was quite good from a down by down basis. The offense was the entire problem the last couple of years and we've just passed (mulitple times) on the chance to vastly improve our offense.

                3: Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky
                Oh. My. God. Most overrated QB in the draft this year and we reach to pick him? (Considering the Vikings recent draft history, I really shouldn't be so suprised to see this.) Ugh. Great. We're going into the season with a purely backup quality QB (Bollinger), plus an overrated rookie who should never start for a team in the near future (Woodson), and a Div2 washout who wouldn't even make the practice squad of most NFL teams (Jackson)! Brilliant! First pick of the 2009 draft, here we come!

                3: Tony Hills, OT, Texas
                The only pick through the first 3 rounds that made any sense for the Vikes.

                4: Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
                Hrm. with Shiancoe and Mills, I don't see the Vikings needing a backup caliber TE. They either need to upgrade the position with a better TE selection, or use this pick for something else. Once again, not the BPA.

                5: Frank Morton, DT, Tulane
                Two picks out of 6 ain't bad, right? Seriously, this and the Hills pick were the only ones that passed my draft test of acceptability.

                My draft grade for Minnesota would be a D-.

                Overall, the draft seems quite solid for most teams but it certainly doesn't seem to be very good at all for the Vikings.

                rucker is actually pretty good. not a devastating blocker, but a greg jennings-type receiver but at tight end. if you know what i mean.
                of course i don';t think tony hills is that good. so, i guess maybe it's a wash.
                you should probably become a packers fan anyway, since the vikings are interminably hopeless. packers will be division champs for about nineteen years the way thompson has built this team.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by starqb14 View Post
                  rucker is actually pretty good. not a devastating blocker, but a greg jennings-type receiver but at tight end. if you know what i mean.
                  of course i don';t think tony hills is that good. so, i guess maybe it's a wash.
                  you should probably become a packers fan anyway, since the vikings are interminably hopeless. packers will be division champs for about nineteen years the way thompson has built this team.
                  Rucker doesn't fit as a Vikings TE anyway. The Vikings TE's are functioning not as glorified WR's, but as true TE's who spend most of their time run blocking downfield, or pass blocking. A bigger TE who can effectively block is imparative. A glorified WR like Rucker just doesn't make sense considering how our offense is supposed to operate. Besides, what good does it do to pick up a pass-catching TE, or more WR's, when the team does not even have a QB who can get them the ball???
                  Last edited by ZN0rseman; 03-24-2008, 01:37 PM.
                  sigpic
                  WFB Comments on Vikings @ Steelers Game Rigging
                  PuppyPuncher:"It sure was nice enough of Roger Goodell to let the refs from Ark-Florida officiate the Vikings-Steelers game"
                  NoNonsenseCoach:"As a Steelers fan living in Pittsburgh I can still admit that tripping penalty was a complete ghost call."
                  Simonds:"The tripping call was awful, yes, but there were a number of other absurd calls that went against the Vikings, including a DEFENSIVE delay of game penalty against the Vikings only called after a failed attempt to convert a third and 2 by the Steelers. Even the commentators were utterly floored that the refs made that call."
                  Wraith36444:"A shady tripping call on Minnesota essentially gave the game to the Steelers. The Vikings were the better team, but it is too hard to beat a decent team and the refs. Oh and Harvin is the man."
                  MaineMan:"I have to agree that it was an awful call and that it changed the outcome. Overall a great game by the Vikes and tragic that the well-deserved victory was stolen away like that."
                  PaddyPatriot:"I've seen this play and I have to agree, I can't believe they called it tripping"
                  Johndoe:"You know the officiating is bad when a Steeler's fan, like myself, thinks it was pretty bad."
                  Steelers_Pens_Fan:"I will admit that the whole "tripping" thing probably shouldn't have been a flag."
                  ZN0rseman:"It's great to know that good old fashioned pro football game rigging is still alive and well in America."
                  Klunker18:"I'm with Z on this one. Definitely one of those games that makes you wonder if the NFL wants certain teams to win."
                  TRICKaz"I agree that was a BS call"
                  InjuredReserve:"Have yet to hear anyone say it was the right call. Seems as if the Vikings were cheated a bit."
                  Eagles4Life:"Coaches just need to be able to challenge penalties"
                  EL_Guapo:"The tripping call was bad, the delay of game was stupid Either way, the Vikings showed they are a top team."
                  EllijayFalconsFan:"The tripping penalty was rediculous."
                  Archon095:"Even as a Steeler fan I agree that the call was bull."
                  BroncosCon:"I'm sorry that was a total bull**** call and it changed the outcome of the game. Pittsburgh still won, but it was almost like Denver winning at Cincy."

                  Tony Dungy:"The Vikings are just one bad tripping penalty away from being undefeated.
                  Jon Gruden:"That was just a bad, bad call. It cost the Vikings an important win at Pittsburgh, and it could really hurt them in the post season."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ZN0rseman View Post
                    Rucker doesn't fit as a Vikings TE anyway. The Vikings TE's are functioning not as glorified WR's, but as true TE's who spend most of their time run blocking downfield, or pass blocking. A bigger TE who can effectively block is imparative.
                    so you're looking for craig stevens or joey haynos. you could really use a good receiving TE, though too. and rucker isn't soft in downfield blocking, he just doesn't have much experience in-line. you could probably get haynos in the 6th. then you'd have both, and they could both develop their weak areas besides. of course i don't really know why we're arguing because we're both pretty much right.

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                    • #11
                      Great job on the Giants. I would love for Phillips to fall to them.

                      I also noticed the Minkoski joke somewhere in there.

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                      • #12
                        I like round 1, but I am going to finally give up hope on Walter that he will see my point of view that the worst O-Line in the league (Lions) needs to address this problem in the first three rounds, much less the first five.

                        An OT needs to be picked by the second pick of the third round or there is no point in drafting Mendenhall or any other RB because there will be nobody to block for him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by animal52 View Post
                          I like round 1, but I am going to finally give up hope on Walter that he will see my point of view that the worst O-Line in the league (Lions) needs to address this problem in the first three rounds, much less the first five.

                          An OT needs to be picked by the second pick of the third round or there is no point in drafting Mendenhall or any other RB because there will be nobody to block for him.
                          unless they draft barry sanders. because that pretty much summarizes his whole career.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by animal52 View Post
                            I like round 1, but I am going to finally give up hope on Walter that he will see my point of view that the worst O-Line in the league (Lions) needs to address this problem in the first three rounds, much less the first five.

                            An OT needs to be picked by the second pick of the third round or there is no point in drafting Mendenhall or any other RB because there will be nobody to block for him.
                            I hear ya Animal. It was fun watching Thomas Jones get 1 or 2 yards on every carry last year. How he managed 1100 yrds is amazing considering he had Adrien "shouldn't even be in Arena Football" Clark blocking for him.
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                            • #15
                              The Lions and Jets aint got nothing on the chiefs. They had the worst line in the NFL. The stats may not show it or they might? Im too lazy to look it up but they couldnt do anything on offense at all

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