walt's new update 3/24

[starqb14]

check it out. totally bodaciously trementacular.

[starqb14]

i like the mock, dude. this gb scenario is awesome. love the sleeper picks. tracy porter is a stud, who plays real physical and at 5 11 isn't too small.
martellus bennett is a monster, as evidenced by the final clip on his rivals.com highlight vid, which is him locking on a DE and pancaking him.
adibi is ok, but i'd like to see donnie avery, who btw ran a sub 4.4 with a bad hamstring. driver, jennings, avery, jones, robinson, and martin would be a formidable group of wrs. lots of touchdowns between avery and jennings.
john greco is one of the top second-tier linemen out there, and you can't not like a guy like that on your team, whether you need him or not.
LOVE the brian johnston pick. i have been super high on that guy for a while now.
kevin oconnell has some favre in him, but moves super for a 6 6 guy.
if the packers get the 4th rd compensatory they could nab owen schmitt, too, to give them a brutal power complement to their running game. if they can't get schmitt, they might be able to land brandon mcanderson in the 7th or as FA. he runs and pass blocks very physically and has great hands. would be excellent fit with grant and jackson.
great job for the packers.
i think maybe i'll go look at it for the rest of the picks

[scar988]

1 - OT Jake Long
good pick
2a - QB Brian Brohm
good pick
2b - NT Pat Sims
good pick
2c - MLB Curtis Lofton
good pick
3 - TE Jermichael Finley
good pick
4 - OL Heath Benedict
good pick
5 - CB John Zenon
good pick

[bills_red]

Mike Jenkins-Good pick, Derrick Harvey could be the pick but Mike is a decent pick
Fred Davis-Great pick, but IDK Kentwan Balmer looks nice
Mike Pollak-Not a fan, I think all the C's in this draft will just be avg. in the NFL and we have a avg. C in Fowler
Steve Johnson-Don't know much about him so can't really like it or not, but I do like Jerome Simpson
Owen Schmitt-Love it

[Walter]

Glad you like the mock, guys

[ZN0rseman]

Bleh!



Well, I'm glad you guys like the way your team's panned out in this mock, because if the Vikings drafted like Walt has them in his latest mock, I will probably throw up.

1: Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
Yuck. This isn't a need position as much as the media would have you believe. Other comparable DE's will be available in the 2nd. Plus, if the organization passes up on a chance to snag Brian Brohm that late in the first, I'll have to seriously consider becoming a Packers fan.

2: Reggie Smith, CB/S, Oklahoma
No, no and no. Again, Safety is not a need position for this team and this guy definitally is not the BPA. The Vikings pass defense and overall defense was the strength of the team last year. Sure, they ranked poorly because everyone abandoned the running game against them, but Vikings pass defense was quite good from a down by down basis. The offense was the entire problem the last couple of years and we've just passed (mulitple times) on the chance to vastly improve our offense.

3: Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky
Oh. My. God. Most overrated QB in the draft this year and we reach to pick him? (Considering the Vikings recent draft history, I really shouldn't be so suprised to see this.) Ugh. Great. We're going into the season with a purely backup quality QB (Bollinger), plus an overrated rookie who should never start for a team in the near future (Woodson), and a Div2 washout who wouldn't even make the practice squad of most NFL teams (Jackson)! Brilliant! First pick of the 2009 draft, here we come!

3: Tony Hills, OT, Texas
The only pick through the first 3 rounds that made any sense for the Vikes.

4: Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
Hrm. with Shiancoe and Mills, I don't see the Vikings needing a backup caliber TE. They either need to upgrade the position with a better TE selection, or use this pick for something else. Once again, not the BPA.

5: Frank Morton, DT, Tulane
Two picks out of 6 ain't bad, right? Seriously, this and the Hills pick were the only ones that passed my draft test of acceptability.

My draft grade for Minnesota would be a D-.

Overall, the draft seems quite solid for most teams but it certainly doesn't seem to be very good at all for the Vikings. So, for the overall draft I'd give it a B+ but I would be sorely disappointed if my team were to draft close to this.

[starqb14]

Glad you like the mock, guys

it's so much easier to appreciate a mock that goes in-depth and addresses things through five rounds.

on another note, the more i watch of cason and porter, in particular, the more i think they will be BPA at 30. my problem with flowers isn't his speed, it's his height, and rumor has it that thompson won't touch any corners lower than 5 10 and even if they're close to that they better be darn good. flowers is 5 9 1/2 i think. porter is 5 11 and cason is 6 0. that works. talib plays coverage like kind of a softie, don't you think, from watching him? i mean he tackles ok but isn't a real destructive presence in coverage like those other three. keep an eye on the for fun forum mock. i'm gonna show you how it's done. maybe. kindof.

[starqb14]

Well, I'm glad you guys like the way your team's panned out in this mock, because if the Vikings drafted like Walt has them in his latest mock, I will probably throw up.

1: Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
Yuck. This isn't a need position as much as the media would have you believe. Other comparable DE's will be available in the 2nd. Plus, if the organization passes up on a chance to snag Brian Brohm that late in the first, I'll have to seriously consider becoming a Packers fan.

2: Reggie Smith, CB/S, Oklahoma
No, no and no. Again, Safety is not a need position for this team and this guy definitally is not the BPA. The Vikings pass defense and overall defense was the strength of the team last year. Sure, they ranked poorly because everyone abandoned the running game against them, but Vikings pass defense was quite good from a down by down basis. The offense was the entire problem the last couple of years and we've just passed (mulitple times) on the chance to vastly improve our offense.

3: Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky
Oh. My. God. Most overrated QB in the draft this year and we reach to pick him? (Considering the Vikings recent draft history, I really shouldn't be so suprised to see this.) Ugh. Great. We're going into the season with a purely backup quality QB (Bollinger), plus an overrated rookie who should never start for a team in the near future (Woodson), and a Div2 washout who wouldn't even make the practice squad of most NFL teams (Jackson)! Brilliant! First pick of the 2009 draft, here we come!

3: Tony Hills, OT, Texas
The only pick through the first 3 rounds that made any sense for the Vikes.

4: Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
Hrm. with Shiancoe and Mills, I don't see the Vikings needing a backup caliber TE. They either need to upgrade the position with a better TE selection, or use this pick for something else. Once again, not the BPA.

5: Frank Morton, DT, Tulane
Two picks out of 6 ain't bad, right? Seriously, this and the Hills pick were the only ones that passed my draft test of acceptability.

My draft grade for Minnesota would be a D-.

Overall, the draft seems quite solid for most teams but it certainly doesn't seem to be very good at all for the Vikings.

rucker is actually pretty good. not a devastating blocker, but a greg jennings-type receiver but at tight end. if you know what i mean.
of course i don';t think tony hills is that good. so, i guess maybe it's a wash.
you should probably become a packers fan anyway, since the vikings are interminably hopeless. packers will be division champs for about nineteen years the way thompson has built this team.

[ZN0rseman]

rucker is actually pretty good. not a devastating blocker, but a greg jennings-type receiver but at tight end. if you know what i mean.
of course i don';t think tony hills is that good. so, i guess maybe it's a wash.
you should probably become a packers fan anyway, since the vikings are interminably hopeless. packers will be division champs for about nineteen years the way thompson has built this team.

Rucker doesn't fit as a Vikings TE anyway. The Vikings TE's are functioning not as glorified WR's, but as true TE's who spend most of their time run blocking downfield, or pass blocking. A bigger TE who can effectively block is imparative. A glorified WR like Rucker just doesn't make sense considering how our offense is supposed to operate. Besides, what good does it do to pick up a pass-catching TE, or more WR's, when the team does not even have a QB who can get them the ball???

[starqb14]

Rucker doesn't fit as a Vikings TE anyway. The Vikings TE's are functioning not as glorified WR's, but as true TE's who spend most of their time run blocking downfield, or pass blocking. A bigger TE who can effectively block is imparative.

so you're looking for craig stevens or joey haynos. you could really use a good receiving TE, though too. and rucker isn't soft in downfield blocking, he just doesn't have much experience in-line. you could probably get haynos in the 6th. then you'd have both, and they could both develop their weak areas besides. of course i don't really know why we're arguing because we're both pretty much right.

[EL Guapo]

Great job on the Giants. I would love for Phillips to fall to them.

I also noticed the Minkoski joke somewhere in there.

[animal52]

I like round 1, but I am going to finally give up hope on Walter that he will see my point of view that the worst O-Line in the league (Lions) needs to address this problem in the first three rounds, much less the first five.

An OT needs to be picked by the second pick of the third round or there is no point in drafting Mendenhall or any other RB because there will be nobody to block for him.

[starqb14]

I like round 1, but I am going to finally give up hope on Walter that he will see my point of view that the worst O-Line in the league (Lions) needs to address this problem in the first three rounds, much less the first five.

An OT needs to be picked by the second pick of the third round or there is no point in drafting Mendenhall or any other RB because there will be nobody to block for him.

unless they draft barry sanders. because that pretty much summarizes his whole career.

[Vbsiena]

I like round 1, but I am going to finally give up hope on Walter that he will see my point of view that the worst O-Line in the league (Lions) needs to address this problem in the first three rounds, much less the first five.

An OT needs to be picked by the second pick of the third round or there is no point in drafting Mendenhall or any other RB because there will be nobody to block for him.

I hear ya Animal. It was fun watching Thomas Jones get 1 or 2 yards on every carry last year. How he managed 1100 yrds is amazing considering he had Adrien "shouldn't even be in Arena Football" Clark blocking for him.

[titan_qb_3]

The Lions and Jets aint got nothing on the chiefs. They had the worst line in the NFL. The stats may not show it or they might? Im too lazy to look it up but they couldnt do anything on offense at all