With The ** Pick The **** Select Quenton Groves

[Joey_Potter]

Rumors are swirling after the Cleveand Browns had Quentin Groves in for a personal workout with the team that Phil Savage may trade Derek Anderson to get into the late first round to draft him.

Possibilities include San Fransisco, Minnesota, and heaven forbid Tampa Bay.

[SuperUberBob]

Absolutely no way they trade Anderson after signing him to such a lucrative contract.

[Vbsiena]

Yea I have trouble believing this rumor as well.

The Browns for all intensive purposes had their 08 draft already.

Brady Quinn
Corey Williams
Shaun Rodgers

not shabby.

[Joey_Potter]

Savage is known for draft day deals. Who knows what goes through his mind.

[Drumsteroo]

What cap hit would they take for trading Anderson now that he is signed to that deal? Wont that all hit the cap either this year or next? That makes no sense since Brady hasnt proven crap.

[NoNonsenseCoach]

I hope is happens, I want to see what Brady Quinn can do.

[ZN0rseman]

I hope is happens, I want to see what Brady Quinn can do.

Me too... but I'd rather see Quinn traded to the Vikings over Anderson.

[Joey_Potter]

Drum you need to go to my profie and read everything I have posted on Derek Anderson over the last couple months. You will see why Cleveland would be wise to make the deal. I hit that topic so hard it is like beating a dead horse now.

[EL Guapo]

So the most you get for Anderson is Groves. Is that really worth it? Shouldn’t he be given another year to see if he can be a real player and a productive winning quarterback in the NFL. There is nothing more valuable than that. I know people try looking at it logically by saying you have Quinn so why not get another first round pick. That’s not logical to me. There is nothing more important or harder to find than a quarterback and you can’t pass up the chance to have that for Quentin Groves. If Quinn sucks which a lot of quarterbacks do then you just f’d up your franchise. If he Anderson got lucky, why doesn’t this happen more often to other quarterbacks?

Joey, I know you know much more about this than me and I will gladly be wrong.

[Joey_Potter]

So the most you get for Anderson is Groves. Is that really worth it? Shouldn’t he be given another year to see if he can be a real player and a productive winning quarterback in the NFL. There is nothing more valuable than that. I know people try looking at it logically by saying you have Quinn so why not get another first round pick. That’s not logical to me. There is nothing more important or harder to find than a quarterback and you can’t pass up the chance to have that for Quentin Groves. If Quinn sucks which a lot of quarterbacks do then you just f’d up your franchise. If he Anderson got lucky, why doesn’t this happen more often to other quarterbacks?

Joey, I know you know much more about this than me and I will gladly be wrong.

If not for the recievers he would have had a completion percentage between 50 and 52 percent. Wit the recievers the last 8 games he was 55%. Teams figured him out with the bad accuracy and he had 12 interceptions the last eight games.

[NoNonsenseCoach]

If he Anderson got lucky, why doesn’t this happen more often to other quarterbacks?

Lots of QBs are one year wonders. Kordell Stewart, Neil Odonell, Tommy Maddox, Tim Couch, Trent Dilfer the list goes on.

Anderson's trade value is high right now. If you try him out another year and he doesn't look good then you won't get much in return for him.

[Drumsteroo]

Is a mid 1st rounder the most you see anyone giving up for him? There are some pretty QB needy teams out there.

[EL Guapo]

Lots of QBs are one year wonders. Kordell Stewart, Neil Odonell, Tommy Maddox, Tim Couch, Trent Dilfer the list goes on.

Anderson's trade value is high right now. If you try him out another year and he doesn't look good then you won't get much in return for him.

Losing out on the picks is the risk I would be willing to take. The opinion I value most is probably Phil Sims. He does radio in New York a lot. He always liked Derek Anderson so I don’t think it’s a fluke. He called it before he played.

[Joey_Potter]

Dilfer was good when he was younger and after that solid up until last year with the niners. So that wasnt one year. Stewert had a few solid years and 2 Pro Bowl years so lets say 4 year wonder. Couch was definately one year. O'donnell was too old for me to remember.

[NoNonsenseCoach]

Stewart went to the Pro Bowl once in 2001. He started 13 more games after that. He only had one year when he threw more than 15 TDs, and he didn't even make the Pro Bowl that year.