Ryan vs Russell

[kbigsexy9]

who would go one this year if they were both in the draft and Russell was the starting QB on LSU this year? I think they are both going to be average QB's but i could see Ryan being in the league for awhile as a back up or transition QB and russell needs to get his weight together and get his head on the right track. I dont see that happening so i got to go with Ryan.

[phenomenal_waffles]

Obviously Russell. Everyone had an orgasm over him last year, and Ryan wouldn't change that.

[SuperUberBob]

Russell and it's not close.

[PuppyPuncher]

I don't understand why everyone hates on Matt Ryan.

[bills_red]

wow, lots on new members...have nothing eles to add

[Blazedestin]

Russell has more upside than Ryan possibly could ever have. Russell can literally hit anywhere on the field that he wants to. Ryan has good arm strength, but his arm isn't even comparable to Joe Flacco, let alone JaMarcus Russell.

I think Ryan is the better leader, but Russell is much more enticing as a prospect due to his insane upside.

[Joey_Potter]

I think they are both no better than Mid First Round Picks.

[titan_qb_3]

There is a long thread on this somewhere. Just from last week

[bwest36]

to much hate on ryan..

[bwest36]

Russell and it's not close.

really???

[bills_red]

36 please change u'r sig, lol, thanks, to bright and that is the old mock

[Matt McGuire]

Russell had an elite arm.

I give Ryan a higher grade because he is more polished and he seems to love the game for. I was never sold on Russell. #1 pick upside more than Ryan? Yes. Would I take him #1 over Ryan? Yes.

Confusing I know, but you don't take a player #1 that doesn't have much upside (jake long).

[Blazedestin]

Not really confusing. You're saying that Ryan is better than Russell out of college, but Russell at his best is much better than Ryan at his best.

Ryan from a physical standpoint loses to Russell in every aspect. Ryan does however, have elite leadership and intangibles, IMO. You can shoot me for saying this for the 29 millionth time (The other 28,999,999 times were by McMoron/Mayock), but Matty Ice wasn't just a nickname for his love of frozen beverages.

[Vbsiena]

Not really confusing. You're saying that Ryan is better than Russell out of college, but Russell at his best is much better than Ryan at his best.

Ryan from a physical standpoint loses to Russell in every aspect. Ryan does however, have elite leadership and intangibles, IMO. You can shoot me for saying this for the 29 millionth time (The other 28,999,999 times were by McMoron/Mayock), but Matty Ice wasn't just a nickname for his love of frozen beverages.

I thought it was because he liked to drink Natty Ice.

[Blazedestin]

What is Natty Ice? I know of Smirnoff Ice, but that's about it.