2020 NFL & College Football Discussion Thread

[Castiron]

Damn. I can't believe Art Smith took the Falcons job. That team is a disaster.

[steelers_pens_fan]

Rumor is they're promoting Canada, which probably means Ben is coming back. Sorry about all that.

Apparently he wants to come back and is alreafy lobbying for Juju. Juju is a good player but we just don't need more WRs when we have 3 good ones on rookie deals. And the cap isnt looking good.

They appear to be doing what I hoped they wouldnt, but always kinda knew they would.

[Johnnyallstar]

Unsurprising that we came out flat after beating the Steelers, but this season was massive positives all around. Need to address the defense, but all in due time. Now, grabbing wings and rooting for my ErieBros. GO BILLS!

[steelers_pens_fan]

Unsurprising that we came out flat after beating the Steelers, but this season was massive positives all around. Need to address the defense, but all in due time. Now, grabbing wings and rooting for my ErieBros. GO BILLS!

Yeah fix the back 7 and you have a very strong team. Getting some of those guys healthy will go a long way.

[Castiron]

Unsurprising that we came out flat after beating the Steelers, but this season was massive positives all around. Need to address the defense, but all in due time. Now, grabbing wings and rooting for my ErieBros. GO BILLS!

The Browns could be really dangerous with a good offseason. I think a DT, LB, DE and depth on both lines is what is needed. What do you think?

[Castiron]

Yeah fix the back 7 and you have a very strong team. Getting some of those guys healthy will go a long way.

They're getting Greedy and Delpit back. That will be huge, assuming that they come back 100%.

[Johnnyallstar]

They're getting Greedy and Delpit back. That will be huge, assuming that they come back 100%.

Yeah, we missed them severely all year. And Vernon will probably be let go now that he ruptured his achilles. LB is the big one I want to address, but without moving up, I don't know if JOK is going to make it to us, and Parsons is just a pipe dream. May end up having to look for other defensive positions. Wade would be alright to give us security at safety, or someone like Zaven Collins might still be available to be the DL bookend to Garrett.

The nice thing is that our offensive starters are 100% on contract, and we don't have to worry about free agents yet, so we can focus primarily on defense, and the one place where we could argue that the offense was lacking was WR, and Odell will be coming off of injury. This offseason should be almost all defense. I wouldn't hate trying to upgrade our DC Joe Woods, but unless we want to try Wade Phillip's 3-4, I don't know who we would look towards.

[Castiron]

Yeah, we missed them severely all year. And Vernon will probably be let go now that he ruptured his achilles. LB is the big one I want to address, but without moving up, I don't know if JOK is going to make it to us, and Parsons is just a pipe dream. May end up having to look for other defensive positions. Wade would be alright to give us security at safety, or someone like Zaven Collins might still be available to be the DL bookend to Garrett.

The nice thing is that our offensive starters are 100% on contract, and we don't have to worry about free agents yet, so we can focus primarily on defense, and the one place where we could argue that the offense was lacking was WR, and Odell will be coming off of injury. This offseason should be almost all defense. I wouldn't hate trying to upgrade our DC Joe Woods, but unless we want to try Wade Phillip's 3-4, I don't know who we would look towards.

DC? Steve Wilks. At Mike, I'd look at Cameron McGrone. He's inexperienced but has the traits. I have NO idea what folks see in Zaven Collins. In a perfect world, Rousseau (who I hate) would fall to y'all, which I think is actually possible. I think you've got the talent to roll the dice on him or Patrick Jones. How do you feel about your DTs? Seems to me like that is an area that could use a significant upgrade.

[Johnnyallstar]

Wilks was our DC in 2019 and we fired him, so I think that's a no-go. Rousseau is probably going top 5, and I have no reason to expect him to fall anywhere near where we could get him without a considerable trade up. And if we're trading up significantly, I'd rather try to target Parsons, because I think he's the real deal.

At DT we have Sheldon Richardson who is still pretty good. Ogunjobi is okay as a rotational guy, but definitely not the high end starter we were hoping he'd turn into, while 3rd round rookie Jordan Elliott barely made any impact all year. I honestly thought he missed half the season because I never saw him, but apparently he played every game. Not a great sign.

DE/DT is definitely going to be addressed, either in draft or free agency. There's too many questions on that side of the ball still.

[Castiron]

Wilks was our DC in 2019 and we fired him, so I think that's a no-go. Rousseau is probably going top 5, and I have no reason to expect him to fall anywhere near where we could get him without a considerable trade up. And if we're trading up significantly, I'd rather try to target Parsons, because I think he's the real deal.

At DT we have Sheldon Richardson who is still pretty good. Ogunjobi is okay as a rotational guy, but definitely not the high end starter we were hoping he'd turn into, while 3rd round rookie Jordan Elliott barely made any impact all year. I honestly thought he missed half the season because I never saw him, but apparently he played every game. Not a great sign.

DE/DT is definitely going to be addressed, either in draft or free agency. There's too many questions on that side of the ball still.

My bad on Wilks. Haven't been following as closely as I usually do (my biological father blew his head off two months ago). I don't believe Rousseau will go top 10 and if he does I will laugh my butt off. Unfortunately, I think this DT class bites. The value may be there in the 2nd or 3rd, but not in the 1st. Also, get rid of OBJ as soon as possible.

[Johnnyallstar]

I'm sorry to hear that my dude.

I'd be very surprised if Odell moved. No GM in their right mind is going to pony up anything worthwhile for a WR with his contract fresh off of an ACL injury, while at the same time if we cut him he'll incur $12.7M in dead cap space compared to the $15M.7 he'll take up for being on the roster. Doesn't really matter what anyone thinks of OBJ, there's no way we'll think saving $3M this year is the better option than trying to work him into what Stefanski's offense has evolved into. Even then, replacing him with a veteran would end up more expensive at the end of the day. And I don't think that cutting OBJ and using our first round draft pick on a WR to save $1M is a good use of our current capital. Not when our defense is so piss poor.

Thanks to the Browns not being complete ass this year, I've barely put any time into actually watching tons of college film yet, so a lot of my guesses are just based on a few big boards I see. I just wish draft breakdown didn't die off. That place was a treasure.

[Castiron]

I'm sorry to hear that my dude.

I'd be very surprised if Odell moved. No GM in their right mind is going to pony up anything worthwhile for a WR with his contract fresh off of an ACL injury, while at the same time if we cut him he'll incur $12.7M in dead cap space compared to the $15M.7 he'll take up for being on the roster. Doesn't really matter what anyone thinks of OBJ, there's no way we'll think saving $3M this year is the better option than trying to work him into what Stefanski's offense has evolved into. Even then, replacing him with a veteran would end up more expensive at the end of the day. And I don't think that cutting OBJ and using our first round draft pick on a WR to save $1M is a good use of our current capital. Not when our defense is so piss poor.

Thanks to the Browns not being complete ass this year, I've barely put any time into actually watching tons of college film yet, so a lot of my guesses are just based on a few big boards I see. I just wish draft breakdown didn't die off. That place was a treasure.

Thanks, man. But no worries. He hasn't been any part of my life for over 4 decades.

You make good points about OBJ. I just think he's a headache that should been gotten rid of as soon as is feasible.

[Castiron]

Steelers interviewing Hue Jackson for OC? Not sure if that is better or worse than Canada. I think Anthony Lynn would actually be a better hire.

[Castiron]

Josh McCown getting a HC interview for the Texans? Watson is gonna go through the roof!

[steelers_pens_fan]

Steelers are looking at Pep Hamilton as well.