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  • Matt McGuire
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    Yeah, good point. Chicago can't go wrong with Ryan, Woodson, Brohm, McFadden, or even Stewart (he just might sneak into the top 10)

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  • Craig Smith
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    I dont think McFadden will fall from the top 5 but depending on thedraft order it would not suprise me at all. And Dallas dealing both of their #1's to move up is highly unlikely, but it also wouldnt shock me for some reason.

    I mean based on Walter's order, i would guess that even with Brohm off the board, Atlanta still goes QB and takes Woodson, at that point in time i would have McFadden dropping to Chicago at #8

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by Walter View Post
    That's a great point, someone may trade up, but it's way too early to predict that. Whom do you think trades up?
    I disagree. I don't think McFadden has a very good chance of going top 3. Teams just don't want to put a big contract onto a runningback. Look at past backs taken really high in the draft. I know McFadden is the best RB prospect since Bo Jackson, but he could very well fall to 7 or 8 in the draft.

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  • nflchad
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    Like you said its way to early to tell, a lot will depend on what the draft order ends up. I think if the Cowboys are close enough (w/ the browns first rounder) then they may try to jump in there because jones is not known to sit still. The Packers need Mcfadden, but they usually do something that is hard to predict.

    I would love for the Falcons to get him as you predicted, but I think they need to go defense, because they are terrible..

    I could even see Arizona or New Orleans taking him. Edgerrin and Deuce are getting older and Payton in New Orleans would be able to do a lot of things with Reggie and Mcfadden in the backfield or split out wide..

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  • Walter
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    Originally posted by nflchad View Post
    I will be suprised if Mcfadden drops to #5, I know the teams you have listed do not really need him, but I think if this is the case someone would be happy to trade up to have a franchise runningback with the skills of Mcfadden. I think it would be hard for Miami to pass him up aswell even with all there other needs..
    That's a great point, someone may trade up, but it's way too early to predict that. Whom do you think trades up?

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  • nflchad
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    McFadden

    I will be suprised if Mcfadden drops to #5, I know the teams you have listed do not really need him, but I think if this is the case someone would be happy to trade up to have a franchise runningback with the skills of Mcfadden. I think it would be hard for Miami to pass him up aswell even with all there other needs..

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  • bills_red
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    Originally posted by Walter View Post
    How about Yamon Figurs? He was no one until he ran a 4.30 (I think).

    Someone drafted him.
    Yea before he ran that great 40 time, I wanted him in the 6th round for BUFF cuz I saw 2 or 3 games and thought he looked like a nice player.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Has Jay Alford played at all this year?

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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
    I didn't say better off OL/RB than defense... I said better off OL/RB than corner (in round 1).

    Walter never agreed. If you can quote him on it than feel free...but he didn't so stop putting words in his mouth or others.

    Aaron Ross says hello...I think the Giants will draft a corner this year, but more likely in round 2 or 3, not 1.

    You are overrating INTs. A great defensive backfield is more about coverage imo and making tackles. INTs are nice, but being able to break up passes and shutting down the opposition is much more important.

    I think the Giants biggest need at the moment is LB imo. So I don't know why you think I feel like the Giants must go offense in round 1.
    Walter said if Steve Slaton was still there he would have given the Giants him.

    Its not just the Ints man, players were getting burned bad. Corey Webster for example was getting torched by James Jones and RW McQuarters by Patrick Crayton. Those two guys despite being promising recievers will not ever be number 1 recievers. Its also giving up those hefty passing yards despite having a pretty decent pass rush

    With the first rounder being spent of a corner last year and Kiwi being a stop gap and Mitchell not working out, as well as the fact I'm a firm believer of building a good defense through the front seven I also do believe our biggest need is LB.

    However I don't get to watch much college football so I won't gauge where I think X prospect will go and who fits the Giants, so I'll just be happy with best defensive player available from OLB, CB, DT or S.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by giantsfanmike View Post
    You claimed that you think we'd be better off going OL or RB. Walter agreed and just about the rest of the mock drafting world does for some reason.

    The Giants have not allowed anymore than two sacks in a game so far this season, and one of the games where we conceded two sacks were both on the incompetent and sluggish Jared Lorenzen, and Derrick Ward has averaged almost 5 yards per carry.

    On the defense none of our CBs have an interception at all between them. RW McQuarters and Corey Webster are terrible. Sam Madison is old. Kawika Mitchell hasn't worked out so far and I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll improve. Gibril Wilson one of the brighter spots of the secondary is a free agent this year and has both our interceptions. We struggle to spot teams on third down as well.

    I look at our offense and nothing cries out to me as a major problem, while I can name quite a few on the defense.
    I didn't say better off OL/RB than defense... I said better off OL/RB than corner (in round 1).

    Walter never agreed. If you can quote him on it than feel free...but he didn't so stop putting words in his mouth or others.

    Aaron Ross says hello...I think the Giants will draft a corner this year, but more likely in round 2 or 3, not 1.

    You are overrating INTs. A great defensive backfield is more about coverage imo and making tackles. INTs are nice, but being able to break up passes and shutting down the opposition is much more important.

    I think the Giants biggest need at the moment is LB imo. So I don't know why you think I feel like the Giants must go offense in round 1.

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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
    So the Giants, you claiming, are set offensively? Because they are so good. Thats a homer post, period.

    It's isn't a fact the Giants will draft defense, is it likely, yes. I'd say 60%, but they could very well go offense.

    I think you might have misinterpreted what I said. I said the Giants won't go CB 2 years in a row in round 1, not defense.
    You claimed that you think we'd be better off going OL or RB. Walter agreed and just about the rest of the mock drafting world does for some reason.

    The Giants have not allowed anymore than two sacks in a game so far this season, and one of the games where we conceded two sacks were both on the incompetent and sluggish Jared Lorenzen, and Derrick Ward has averaged almost 5 yards per carry.

    On the defense none of our CBs have an interception at all between them. RW McQuarters and Corey Webster are terrible. Sam Madison is old. Kawika Mitchell hasn't worked out so far and I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll improve. Gibril Wilson one of the brighter spots of the secondary is a free agent this year and has both our interceptions. We struggle to spot teams on third down as well.

    I look at our offense and nothing cries out to me as a major problem, while I can name quite a few on the defense.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by Walter View Post
    How about Yamon Figurs? He was no one until he ran a 4.30 (I think).

    Someone drafted him.
    He's a return specialist. The Ravens didn't draft a WR they drafted a RS.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by giantsfanmike View Post
    Sorry Matt, but the Giants have struggled much more on the defensive side of the ball as the stats so clearly indicate. Despite being stop gaps and not long term options David Diehl and Derrick Ward have played superbly.

    The Giants will pick defense, FACT. It really all boils down to whos available and who pick up in FA of course as there a number of free agents this year who could really help us. Lance Briggs, Asante Samuels, Nnamdi Asomugha and Drayton Florence all spring to mind.

    The only offensive position the Giants will definetly address in '08 is FB.
    So the Giants, you claiming, are set offensively? Because they are so good. Thats a homer post, period.

    It's isn't a fact the Giants will draft defense, is it likely, yes. I'd say 60%, but they could very well go offense.

    I think you might have misinterpreted what I said. I said the Giants won't go CB 2 years in a row in round 1, not defense.

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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post

    I don't feel like the Giants go CB 2 years in a row. They need more offensive talent especially on the OL and RB.
    Sorry Matt, but the Giants have struggled much more on the defensive side of the ball as the stats so clearly indicate. Despite being stop gaps and not long term options David Diehl and Derrick Ward have played superbly.

    The Giants will pick defense, FACT. It really all boils down to whos available and who we pick up in FA of course as there a number of free agents this year who could really help us. Lance Briggs, Asante Samuels, Nnamdi Asomugha and Drayton Florence all spring to mind.

    If we go offense at all early I'd want it to be round 3 at the earliest for a LT who has proven he can cut it at a decent level and not project material to spend a year on the sidelines learning the system, get in condition for the NFL and then stepping in to start. Only in round 2 would I be happy with an offensive player if he had taken a massive fall from his projected value on draft day and he didn't play QB or TE.

    The only offensive position the Giants will definetly address in '08 is FB, as we have indicated our desire to secure a decent blocking FB, and of course you won't see that early on.

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  • Adam Mac
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    Hope you're wrong with such a high pick for the Bears but love the pick I would be sooo happy with Woodson... Actually would love DeSean but we still wouldn't have anyone to get him the ball

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