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    After meeting with ex-Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh for three and a half hours Tuesday and reviewing the tapes Walsh presented, the NFL will not further penalize the Patriots regarding the SpyGate affair.

    "According to commissioner Roger Goodell, Walsh claimed there was no Rams Super Bowl walkthrough tape, he never saw such a tape, and that Walsh was on the sidelines during the practice in full Patriots gear. Other than filming signals, Walsh said he knew of no other cheating by New England. Walsh did say the Pats allowed players on injured reserve to practice, which is against league rules, and that players scalped Super Bowl tickets. Goodell says the NFL will look into those issues, but has no plans to take action. This appears to be the end of SpyGate, finally."

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    Yes, there was no "video tape" of the Rams walk-through by Walsh. No, there is no evidence which indicates Walsh or anyone else from the Patriots coaching staff "video taped" the Rams walk-through.

    However, there is information that indicates Walsh was present during the Rams walk-through, and while he did not "video tape" the proceedings, Walsh extracted two things from the Rams walk-through which he relayed to the Patriots coaching staff.

    1. He noticed Marshall Faulk was lined up as a kick-returner during several kick formations.

    2. He noticed the TE roll a certain way when the defense was in a certain formation.

    So, while Walsh did not "video tape" the Rams walk-through, Walsh still relayed scouting information to the Patriots staff moments before kickoff in Super Bowl XXXVI, which allowed the Patriots to adjust accordingly before a single snap was made. I'd say that's quite an advantage when your opponent is unaware that you have knowledge of this aspect of their game plan. Can someone tell me what's the difference between "video taping" another teams walk through and watching the walk through, then relaying the information verbally to your employer?
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    • #3
      To see if Spygate is over, please take the following questionnaire.

      1. Is Arlen Specter still a Senator?

      If you answered "Yes" to any of the above questions, Spygate is not over.
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      • #4
        Someone please tell me Arlen Specter is not a Republican, please!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Vyper View Post
          Someone please tell me Arlen Specter is not a Republican, please!
          Republicans= Sith= Greedy Controling bastards
          Demecrats= Jedi= Hypicritical, passive bastards

          Honestly both extremes annoy the hell out of me. Both Lying, canniving, secretive, and crooked.

          As for Spygate; It was getting extremely annoying. For gods sake end it. I for one am tired of hearing about it.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Vyper View Post
            Someone please tell me Arlen Specter is not a Republican, please!
            Sorry, but Arlen Specter is a moderate republican senator from Pennsylvania. Sorta/kinda in the same political spectrum as McCain.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Joey_Potter View Post
              Republicans= Sith= Greedy Controling bastards
              Demecrats= Jedi= Hypicritical, passive bastards

              Honestly both extremes annoy the hell out of me. Both Lying, canniving, secretive, and crooked.

              As for Spygate; It was getting extremely annoying. For gods sake end it. I for one am tired of hearing about it.
              I didn't know your 2 parties were that different. Here in Australia back in our 2004 Election the incumbent won pretty much because the public couldn't tell the difference between his and his opposition's policies so they just kept the old guy in. Mind you that guy, John Howard, despite being of short stature, bespectacled with bushy eyebrows actually did a pretty good job of taking our little country out of the 80/90s doldrums.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jimmyp View Post
                I didn't know your 2 parties were that different. Here in Australia back in our 2004 Election the incumbent won pretty much because the public couldn't tell the difference between his and his opposition's policies so they just kept the old guy in. Mind you that guy, John Howard, despite being of short stature, bespectacled with bushy eyebrows actually did a pretty good job of taking our little country out of the 80/90s doldrums.
                I do believe that the American democrats are about as liberal as Europe's conservative parties. But yes, there tends to be a big difference between the two parties in the American political system. :P
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jimmyp View Post
                  I didn't know your 2 parties were that different. Here in Australia back in our 2004 Election the incumbent won pretty much because the public couldn't tell the difference between his and his opposition's policies so they just kept the old guy in. Mind you that guy, John Howard, despite being of short stature, bespectacled with bushy eyebrows actually did a pretty good job of taking our little country out of the 80/90s doldrums.
                  You guys get along with New Zealand? Maybe just a friendly rivalry?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EL Guapo View Post
                    You guys get along with New Zealand? Maybe just a friendly rivalry?
                    Seeing as our biggest disagreements are about sports, I would say its a friendly, nay, sibling rivalry.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jimmyp View Post
                      I didn't know your 2 parties were that different. Here in Australia back in our 2004 Election the incumbent won pretty much because the public couldn't tell the difference between his and his opposition's policies so they just kept the old guy in. Mind you that guy, John Howard, despite being of short stature, bespectacled with bushy eyebrows actually did a pretty good job of taking our little country out of the 80/90s doldrums.
                      They are all the same when it counts.Selfish, corrupt, rich, uncaring about anything that doesnt concern themselves directly, law breakers, and extremely hipocriticle. It's a pothetic government that is as terrible as the corrupt law enforcement. Be glad you live in Australia where your politicians at least have a soft spot for the people.
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                      • #12
                        spygate is over for me. i am sick of hearing about it. it is over. its the damn news networks that keep the story alive. i turn the station off whenever spygate comes on.... get over it already it is all in the past.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by yem123 View Post
                          spygate is over for me. i am sick of hearing about it. it is over. its the damn news networks that keep the story alive. i turn the station off whenever spygate comes on.... get over it already it is all in the past.
                          I agree. Hank Steinbrenner is the Sith Lord ruling over the Evil Empire (That isnt far from toppling) and we dont need to hear about how how the New England Patriots are trying to steal his spot.
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                          • #14
                            Although over in terms of evidence produced, for me it will never be truly over. It gets mentioned in the same breath as the Patriots and Bellicheck now. It'll eventually fizzle away though.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by St_Conroy View Post
                              Although over in terms of evidence produced, for me it will never be truly over. It gets mentioned in the same breath as the Patriots and Bellicheck now. It'll eventually fizzle away though.
                              Kids.
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