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  • 2009 QB Prospects

    I'm going to shock everyone and give you my 2009 QB Prosect rankings. I'd like to get some feedback.

    #1 Todd Boeckman Ohio State. :0 Give me a second. Boeckman has ideal size and arm strength but was very inconsistent last year. My thought, however, is that with the loaded buckeye team and a year under his belt Boeckman's stats will improve. If Ohio State can knock off USC and win a championship then Boeckman will probably be the frontrunner to win the Johnny U award.

    #2 Matt Stafford Georgia. Stafford's mobility, rocket arm, and heck even his haircut remind me of Jay Cutler. Stafford is admittedly overrated, but I predict better mechanics and accuracy next year. His footwork is very bad but is reminiscent of Brett Favre, who pulled it off (would you disagree?). I think someone takes a shot on Stafford early due to his huge upside. Could have kind of a Ryan Leaf vs Peyton Manning or Jamarcus Russel vs Brady Quinn battle between Stafford and Boeckman (Stafford having the huge upside). One other reason is that we all so how the media hyped Matt Ryan into the 3rd overall pick. Well Mel Kiper has been drooling over Stafford since highschool, so I predict the same.

    #3 Tim Tebow Florida. Half the reason he's so low on my list is I don't think his going to leave college early. I think Tebow's accuracy leaves a lot to be desired, but could improve with another year practice, and his passing is overall underrated. Tebow has good mobility but will need to learn to slide at the pro level. Arm Strength and size are both great. The other reason Tebow slides is the offense he plays in, but I think the mystique around him and his physical upside make him a 1st round pick.

    #4 Sam Bradford. Bradford falls because he is young and inexperienced, and I'm also predicted a lesser sophomore season, much like Colt McCoy last year. Bradford is young and losing his favorite target in Malcolm Kelly, but he is still decently mobile, deadly accurate, and possesses adequate arm strength and size.
    Last edited by TRICKaz; 05-13-2008, 12:44 PM.

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    How is Cullen Harper not on your list?

    Boeckman was absolutely worthless after November 3rd. Michigan, Illinois, and LSU were all very forgettable games. I think like Troy Smith, he'll be a serviceable QB but with limited upside. Smith shows more mobility, but Boeckman has bigger size. I have him penciled as a mid-late 2nd rounder right now...

    Tebow's passing is not underrated. He'll only throw when the situation is good. He has the option to break out for a run when either his protection is shaky or when he can't find a target to throw to. This is entirely why his completion percentage, YPA, and interceptions are all so great. I'd love to see how Tebow could manage if he didn't have his mobility.
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    • #3
      I Agree that Cullen Harper is good, but I think he's going to get eaten alive behind that O line. Plus I only put 1-4. Also i'm not predicting Boeckman to be a star NFL QB or anything, I'm just saying if he has a stellar season, like it looks like he might due to the loaded OSU team, he could go higher than he should. Im trying to look ahead and predict predraft circumstances. I agree that Tebow's system makes him what he is, but there are guys on ESPN every week saying Tebow isn't a passer, he should just play fullback. I think he can make all the throws. Then the last thing I wanted to show was there surprisingly could be up to 4 maybe 5 QBs taken in the first round next year, I don't think any of them really deserve it but the way the nation is obsessed with the quarterback position I could see it happening.
      Last edited by TRICKaz; 05-13-2008, 12:45 PM.

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      • #4
        I saw most of Boeckman's games last year and saw nothing special. Stafford is completely erratic with his passes causing him to drop on my list. Tebow is the only person on your list we agree on.

        My CURRENT Top 5 Quarterbacks:

        Cullen Harper- Clemson
        Sam Bradford- Oklahoma
        Tim Tebow - Florida
        Matt Stafford - Georgia
        Hunter Cantwell- Louisville
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        • #5
          I am confused. You say that your list is about 2009 prospects. Which would indicate you are talking about who the top QBs will be in the 2009 draft. But it seems like you are talking about who will be productive in college this year.

          Tim Tebow sucks. He's basically a bigger Alex Smith. I don't look at Alex Smith and go, "Gee, he could be All-Pro if he was only bigger." Tebow is a developmental 5th rounder.

          Cullen Harper can make all the throws. And he does it behind a porous offensive line. When you think about all these teams that pick in the top 10 in the next year, they should covet Harper for his excellent production behind his line.

          My Top 5:

          1) Cullen Harper
          2) Curtis Painter
          3) Bradford
          4) Matt Stafford
          5) McCoy

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          • #6
            Their productivity is going to be a big factor since it's wide open right now. Yeah I probably should put Cullen Harper higher up there. Yeah Tebow is a bigger Alex Smith. Did you forget that Smith went #1 overall? And what about Jamarcus the illiterate Russel? He went number 1. Im just saying what im predicting (a year in advance mind you) not what SHOULD happen

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            • #7
              Puppy, I think Tebow if made a backup for a year or two could be an all-pro. However he needs work to improve from the QB Killing Run-n-Shoot offense. He is a second round prospect in my mind because of this but will be taken early because of delusional NFL GM's.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by TRICKaz View Post
                Their productivity is going to be a big factor since it's wide open right now. Yeah I probably should put Cullen Harper higher up there. Yeah Tebow is a bigger Alex Smith. Did you forget that Smith went #1 overall? And what about Jamarcus the illiterate Russel? He went number 1. Im just saying what im predicting (a year in advance mind you) not what SHOULD happen
                Him going #1 overall is irrelevant. He is a bust and the reason for him being a bust can be pointed at Urban Meyer's offense.

                Jamarcus Russell is more legit because despite the fact that he has a large frame that can be mistaken for fat, and despite that he talks with a southern accent doesn't take away from his ability to put up large numbers and win games in a legitimate offense at LSU.

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                • #9
                  Ok I have three confessions to make.

                  1 this is a list of the order I think the QB's could go in, not my top prospects.

                  2 I totally forgot about Cullen Harper

                  3 I originally made this list half asleep at midnight last night.

                  anyway tho my thinking is that Tim Tebow has just as much upside as Russel, A. Smith, or any of the QBs weve seen in a while. His system is terrible so basically whoever drafts him is drafting on pure potential. Its been done b4, sometimes for the good, but usually not. I just think that with the aura around Tebow, he gets a first round selection.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PuppyPuncher View Post
                    I am confused. You say that your list is about 2009 prospects. Which would indicate you are talking about who the top QBs will be in the 2009 draft. But it seems like you are talking about who will be productive in college this year.

                    Tim Tebow sucks. He's basically a bigger Alex Smith. I don't look at Alex Smith and go, "Gee, he could be All-Pro if he was only bigger." Tebow is a developmental 5th rounder.

                    Cullen Harper can make all the throws. And he does it behind a porous offensive line. When you think about all these teams that pick in the top 10 in the next year, they should covet Harper for his excellent production behind his line.

                    My Top 5:

                    1) Cullen Harper
                    2) Curtis Painter
                    3) Bradford
                    4) Matt Stafford
                    5) McCoy
                    I have seen a couple Curtis Painter games recently and he fumbled half the snaps he took under center. He is currently my #7 Quarterback. Tim Tebow is ten times the quarterback Painter is and they are both Run n Shoot quarterbacks which is a quarterback killing offense anyway. Who is McCoy?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TRICKaz View Post
                      Ok I have three confessions to make.

                      1 this is a list of the order I think the QB's could go in, not my top prospects.

                      2 I totally forgot about Cullen Harper

                      3 I originally made this list half asleep at midnight last night.

                      anyway tho my thinking is that Tim Tebow has just as much upside as Russel, A. Smith, or any of the QBs weve seen in a while. His system is terrible so basically whoever drafts him is drafting on pure potential. Its been done b4, sometimes for the good, but usually not. I just think that with the aura around Tebow, he gets a first round selection.
                      It's easy to forget about Cullen Harper. He's not real flashy and has only 1 year under his belt.

                      I don't think teams will draft players for just their potential. There are a lot of QBs like Caleb Haine, big arm, that go undrafted.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Joey_Potter View Post
                        I have seen a couple Curtis Painter games recently and he fumbled half the snaps he took under center. He is currently my #7 Quarterback. Tim Tebow is ten times the quarterback Painter is and they are both Run n Shoot quarterbacks which is a quarterback killing offense anyway. Who is McCoy?
                        Colt McCoy.

                        "Pistol" is what I'm pretty sure Painter runs. Basically every QB is going to have to learn how to effectively take snaps out from under center. Painter is extremely accurate and made huge strides in his sophmore to junior campaign. I like his decision making the most.

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                        • #13
                          why do people think cullen harper is good?

                          What did he show in college? Cool be beat up low level D1 teams and that oh so dangerous Wake Forest Secondary.

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                          • #14
                            Puppy, Tebow as a 5th rounder? You have to be crazy. I'd pick him in the late second to play RB/FB, at the very least. If he shows his abilities as a passer more and runs less, which I doubt, he could be a mid first rounder. As it stands, his production and ridiculous athleticism would make him a late first, early second rounder. I think if a team is willing to keep Tebow on the bench as a QB for a year, he could be great. He's got all the physical tools.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kbigsexy9 View Post
                              why do people think cullen harper is good?

                              What did he show in college? Cool be beat up low level D1 teams and that oh so dangerous Wake Forest Secondary.
                              I'll agree that he needs to do better against elite competition. VTech, GTech, and Auburn were not good games for him. But his accuracy is good and his Pass:INT ratio is by far the best out of the major QB prospects.

                              He played against similar opponents that Matt Ryan did, too. I don't recall anyone commenting about the low competition that Ryan played.
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