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  • Andre Woodson/Todd McShay

    lol, Matt McGuire.

    Walter Football owns the rights to being one of the first places that based McShay.

    From PFT:


    In response to the news that Kentucky quarterback Andre Woodson was under the mistaken impression that he’d be drafted in the second round of last month’s draft, one league source is pointing the blame directly at Todd McShay and other wannabe scouts who don’t know as much as they think they know about what teams will do.

    We tried to search ESPN.com for McShay’s 2008 mock drafts. His final 2008 mock draft now comes up as “null.” The Scouts Inc. final mock, prepared by McShay and two others, is still alive.

    In that mock draft, McShay and company had Woodson going in round three to the Bears. Instead, Woodson was selected in round six by the New York Giants.

    The following is an opinion that was passed along to us by the source, based on McShay’s assessment of Woodson.

    “The problem with people like McShay is that they have no accountability,” the source said. “They can say what they want and when they are wrong no one cares, [except] the kid’s family. McShay could not get a job with any NFL team, even as an intern. He is a very poor evaluator. He proved it with his evaluation of Woodson.

    “Woodson’s problem, and most everyone in the league saw it, was he has a very slow release and he stares down his receivers. In our league, he would get a very high percentage of interceptions because of his flaws. His accuracy is very average at best, so you put a slow release, not good accuracy, and stares down receivers and you get a guy who can’t play quarterback in the NFL.

    “The networks should hire real scouts not wannabes like McShay. The other kid at ESPN, Jeremy Green, was fired after a couple of years with a club because he couldn’t evaluate, yet he is an “expert” with ESPN. These guys make more than twice as much money as real scouts and they don’t have a clue. ESPN should grade what these guys say and fire them when they are wrong a lot more often than when they are right.”

    Moving forward, we’ll be keeping a close eye on what McShay has to say, especially since he seems to be the “hair” apparent to Mel Kiper. And, apparently, we’ll need to print off all of McShay’s mock drafts, since after the fact they can’t be found in a medium that ordinarily is premised on saving stuff, not deleting it.

    In saying this, we full acknowledge the fact that we offer up our own periodic mock drafts in the weeks leading up to the draft. But ours isn’t based on our own scouting assessment of the players; we do it based on the things we hear from folks in the know. Even then, our mock draft often is a complete mess, too.

    It would be even more of a mess if we pretended to be scouts.

  • #2
    McShay should be fired and publicaly humilliated for being a dumbass. I wish Red Foreman was real. We could get the old man to put a foot in McShay's ass on the way out the door.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Joey_Potter View Post
      McShay should be fired and publicaly humilliated for being a dumbass. I wish Red Foreman was real. We could get the old man to put a foot in McShay's ass on the way out the door.

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      http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

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      • #4
        Thanks. Ive seen PFT a few times and had no clue what it was.
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        • #5
          Donnie Avery is scary.
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          • #6
            Woodson slow release made him one of the best passers in SEC history the same conference people in the NFL rave about. But yet those corners and safteys who could not intercept one of his passes are the best thing since slice bread?

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            • #7
              Amen Sexy.
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              • #8
                Yeah, when I saw that piece at PFT, I seriously wondered in Florio was reading these boards because his piece is like a summary of one of our board topic from just before the draft.

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                PuppyPuncher:"It sure was nice enough of Roger Goodell to let the refs from Ark-Florida officiate the Vikings-Steelers game"
                NoNonsenseCoach:"As a Steelers fan living in Pittsburgh I can still admit that tripping penalty was a complete ghost call."
                Simonds:"The tripping call was awful, yes, but there were a number of other absurd calls that went against the Vikings, including a DEFENSIVE delay of game penalty against the Vikings only called after a failed attempt to convert a third and 2 by the Steelers. Even the commentators were utterly floored that the refs made that call."
                Wraith36444:"A shady tripping call on Minnesota essentially gave the game to the Steelers. The Vikings were the better team, but it is too hard to beat a decent team and the refs. Oh and Harvin is the man."
                MaineMan:"I have to agree that it was an awful call and that it changed the outcome. Overall a great game by the Vikes and tragic that the well-deserved victory was stolen away like that."
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                InjuredReserve:"Have yet to hear anyone say it was the right call. Seems as if the Vikings were cheated a bit."
                Eagles4Life:"Coaches just need to be able to challenge penalties"
                EL_Guapo:"The tripping call was bad, the delay of game was stupid Either way, the Vikings showed they are a top team."
                EllijayFalconsFan:"The tripping penalty was rediculous."
                Archon095:"Even as a Steeler fan I agree that the call was bull."
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                • #9
                  McShay isn’t reporting from Baghdad, let’s calm down with the journalistic responsibility. This is ridiculous.

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                  • #10
                    I don't think he should lose credibility for his Woodson evaluation. He should for being such a girl about it and deleting his mock.

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                    • #11
                      Haha so where are all the Woodson bashers now?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NoNonsenseCoach View Post
                        I don't think he should lose credibility for his Woodson evaluation. He should for being such a girl about it and deleting his mock.

                        Good thing I wrote down the first round of many mock drafts on the net...bu tfrom now on I'm going to be documenting MANY mock drafts to determine the best.
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                        • #13
                          If he deleted his mock he's a douche. What an ass.

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                          • #14
                            Well if McShay is on ESPN I believe he should be one of the better draft "experts" out there. The fact of the matter is he didn't do a great job compared to lots of writers/bloggers out there. ESPN should be striving for the best and therefore should try to hire the best available. There are way better draft "experts" on the web than McShay.

                            People should start sending in resumes to ESPN.
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                            • #15
                              Todd McShay is a complete Dusch Bag. He is hardly ever right on anything and takes credit for the work of others. I have seen sites that are remarkably exactly what McShay has said and posted before McShay said it. Then when something comes up to visually show how pothetic he is he erases it. Tell me, does that sound like an expert or a bum that takes others ideas and when they make him look bad he erases it?
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