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    HARDY ALLEGEDLY PULLS GUN ON FATHER
    Posted by Mike Florio on May 13, 2008, 8:29 a.m.

    Every team that picked a receiver in the 2008 draft is hoping to find the next Marvin Harrison.

    But not in this way.

    Rookie receiver James Hardy, a second-round draft pick of the Buffalo Bills, allegedly pulled a gun on his father on Sunday.

    Hardy’s name has been removed from a police report regarding the incident, but other evidence pointed to Hardy pointing the gun at his father. Fort Wayne, Indiana police chief Rusty York confirmed that Hardy was the guy who allegedly pointed the gun.

    But York said that the matter isn’t being pursued, because Hardy’s father wasn’t injured.

    Um, guys? Anyone who has a gun pulled and pointed at him or her isn’t injured unless the trigger is pulled. But that doesn’t make it, you know, not a crime for the person to pull and point the gun.

    This is another example of the biggest flaw in the league’s Personal Conduct Policy. If a player engages in bad personal conduct in a jurisdiction that isn’t inclined to arrest and prosecute him for it, then the player will likely escape scrutiny from Commissioner Roger Goodell. In contrast, if another player does the same thing in a town where the cops decide to push the thing, then the player also will face a greater chance at discipline from the league office.

    Of course, the league could still decide to perform its own investigation and mete out discipline. However, we’re not aware of any situations in which the league has investigated a player for violating the Personal Conduct Policy, absent the pursuit of criminal charges.



    and then...



    NOT THE FIRST INCIDENT FOR HARDY
    Posted by Mike Florio on May 13, 2008, 9:49 a.m.

    In response to the news that Bills receiver James Hardy, a second-round pick in last month’s draft, allegedly pulled a gun on his father on Mother’s Day (his mom would be wise to avoid Hardy on Father’s Day), a league source has alerted us to the fact that this wasn’t the first domestic incident involving the former Indiana standout.

    Two years ago, Hardy spent three nights in jail after allegedly committing battery against his girlfriend. He was charged with domestic battery and interfering with the reporting of a crime. Hardy eventually was released on bond.

    When his girlfriend called 911, an operator heard the woman say that Hardy had “hit her and her baby.” The line then disconnected, apparently because Hardy had yanked the phone out of the wall.

    The source described Hardy to us as a “scary dude,” and said that the reports of Hardy striking a baby scared many teams away from him.

    But not the Bills.


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  • #2
    Wow, that better get him suspended.

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    • #3
      And that is why Hardy was not the first WR off the board.
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      • #4
        I disagree, if he didn't have character concerns, I think he would have went 1st round.
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        • #5
          It's impossible to tell how good a player will be in the NFL (see Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, Mike Williams), but if I had to bet on which receiver would have the most success in the NFL (with character issues not being a factor), I'd have a tough time deciding between James Hardy and Malcolm Kelly. Kelly screwed up his first-round chances at his Pro Day.
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          • #6
            No, not impossible, but extremely difficult. The NFL Draft is a crapshoot and there are tons of busts every single year.

            I'm not really sure what you're referring to with Hardy; all I said was that I thought he'd be a first-round pick if he didn't have character issues.
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            • #7
              He went 41st with character issues. You're saying he wouldn't have gone at least 31st without character issues? I don't get that logic.

              Once again, you're overreacting and misinterpreting something I said. No mock was even close to being accurate, but that's not even what I was saying. I said that it's extremely difficult to predict how good players will be in the NFL. There are tons of busts every year, even in the top 10, so there's no use arguing this.
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              • #8
                And that incident with Kelly, in itself shows why America has a problem with gun crime.

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                • #9
                  Unfortunatly Conry without guns the US Government would have no worries about the people defending themselves and we would be even more like prisoners than we already are. Guns are one right the government has yet to take away.

                  If you want to argue that. There was a lin in the constitution that was taken out that was said by George Washington. He said that the greatest threat to the people would not come from without, but from within. Within meaning the government. No wonder they took it out.
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                  • #10
                    Bills Speak To Hardy: The Bills spoke to James Hardy after the report in the Fort Wayne Gazette that alleges he brandished a handgun while arguing with his father. The team then released this statement, “we have spoken to law enforcement officials and they have informed us that they looked into this and have no plans to pursue the matter any further. We also spoke to James last night and will continue to speak with him today, but indications are that this matter has been resolved.”


                    Hardy On Incident: James Hardy released a statement regarding the incident with his father over the weekend. He said, "I realize what the public perception could be pertaining to this incident, however that was not the reality of the situation,” he said. “This situation that has been blown out of proportion has been very hurtful and frustrating for me and my father. There was a misunderstanding and a misinterpretation of the situation. I would like to first apologize to the fans of Buffalo and the Bills organization for any distractions this may have caused. I would also like to apologize to my fans in Indiana and the children who look up to me because it has been hard on me and I know it’s been equally hard on them to hear something of this nature. I do understand that this opportunity with me being drafted by the Buffalo Bills is a blessing and a privilege and not a right. So I ask that my fans just continue to keep me in your prayers and I will continue to strive to be the best I can be on and off the field.” No charges are going to be filed against Hardy as his father won't press charges. His father indicated that his son is still upset that he was in prison while the younger Hardy was growing up.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joey_Potter View Post
                      If you want to argue that. There was a lin in the constitution that was taken out that was said by George Washington. He said that the greatest threat to the people would not come from without, but from within. Within meaning the government. No wonder they took it out.
                      "Great civilizations cannot be conquered unless they have destroyed themselves from within."
                      - Damn, I can't remember who said that.

                      "In framing a government, which is to be administered by men, over men, the great difficulty lies in this: You must first enable the government to control the governed, and in the next place, oblige it to control itself."
                      - Alexander Hamilton


                      Question: What do all of these infamous, mass-murderer, socialists and communists have in common?

                      Stalin
                      Mao
                      Hitler
                      Pol Pot

                      Answer: The first thing all of them did, when rising to power, was to implement strict gun control policies on the populations they were about to destroy.
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                      • #12
                        What's with all these guys... Can't they just play nice and be happy with their millions of dollars instead of pulling stupid acts like this?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ZN0rseman View Post
                          "Great civilizations cannot be conquered unless they have destroyed themselves from within."
                          - Damn, I can't remember who said that.

                          "In framing a government, which is to be administered by men, over men, the great difficulty lies in this: You must first enable the government to control the governed, and in the next place, oblige it to control itself."
                          - Alexander Hamilton


                          Question: What do all of these infamous, mass-murderer, socialists and communists have in common?

                          Stalin
                          Mao
                          Hitler
                          Pol Pot

                          Answer: The first thing all of them did, when rising to power, was to implement strict gun control policies on the populations they were about to destroy.
                          They were all known as the Satan of their day. Just like George Bush is seen as by the church today. A Satan on Earth every generation. Unfortunately we have Bush, and his Imp Chaeney is pulling the strings.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ZN0rseman View Post
                            "Great civilizations cannot be conquered unless they have destroyed themselves from within."
                            - Damn, I can't remember who said that.

                            "In framing a government, which is to be administered by men, over men, the great difficulty lies in this: You must first enable the government to control the governed, and in the next place, oblige it to control itself."
                            - Alexander Hamilton


                            Question: What do all of these infamous, mass-murderer, socialists and communists have in common?

                            Stalin
                            Mao
                            Hitler
                            Pol Pot

                            Answer: The first thing all of them did, when rising to power, was to implement strict gun control policies on the populations they were about to destroy.
                            You sir, are a ****ing retard.

                            These people you mention did what they did because they had absolute control over both government and military. There were also multiple factors in each individual case; for example. Stalin was in a political system that virtually guaranteed him continuing power until death/ill health. Hitler used fear of another people in a post WWI German depression climate to drive his country into a frenzy.

                            That old saying about absolute power corrupting absolutely.

                            You don't have to have the entire population walking around like Dirty Harry with a magnum in their pocket. Guns kill people. Straight up. Except in a pest control context for rural farmers, and maybe in hunting (though I don't really agree with this, sorry Brett OMG Favre) they could be justified, but otherwise they have no purpose.

                            Get out of the 18th century. Your "right to bear arms" is an archaic remnant of your constitution that should be expunged and become a memory of your countries past, like slavery and Ally McBeal.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jimmyp View Post
                              You sir, are a ****ing retard

                              These people you mention did what they did because they had absolute control over both government and military. There were also multiple factors in each individual case; for example. Stalin was in a political system that virtually guaranteed him continuing power until death/ill health. Hitler used fear of another people in a post WWI German depression climate to drive his country into a frenzy.


                              That old saying about absolute power corrupting absolutely.

                              You don't have to have the entire population walking around like Dirty Harry with a magnum in their pocket. Guns kill people. Straight up. Except in a pest control context for rural farmers, and maybe in hunting (though I don't really agree with this, sorry Brett OMG Favre) they could be justified, but otherwise they have no purpose.

                              Get out of the 18th century. Your "right to bear arms" is an archaic remnant of your constitution that should be expunged and become a memory of your countries past, like slavery and Ally McBeal.
                              My Response...You sir are a ****ing retard. The only difference between this government and them is that this government has a bunch of corrupt people running it with two warlords at the head. The only difference is that instead of one pothetic life form vying to steal the rights of the people there are many. Since there are many they do it slowly and it goes unnoticed.

                              Just because you choose to turn a blind eye to the truth and make believe this place is a wonderful country like it use to be dont insult US people that do choose to see it.
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