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  • Prediction: Best TE of 2008 Class?

    I know Tight Ends aren't the most glamorous guys on the field, but I've always had a special affinity with them (which explains my name, Shock Doctor referring to Shockey) and while this wasn't an extraordinary class I think it's quite intriguing, given critics were divided amongst 3-4 primary players for best of the class and it was a wide open race throughout the draft, allowing teams to draft more on specific skill sets and system fits.

    This isn't a discussion about who should have been first drafted etc., it's about when all is said and done ten to fifteen years down the line who will be considered to have had the best career?

    These are the front-runners...

    John Carlson (Seahawks) - Possibly, with the exception of Matt Ryan, there was no player who had scouts so widely divided. Some saw him as the prototypical all-around TE who can step in on day one and stay there for the next decade while others saw him as slow as molasses, unable to stretch the field, that his high ranking is the product of his school's name and he'll never be anything more than a depth guy.

    Fred Davis (Redskins) - "Rocked up WR" who, though not having elite height, is considered to be the top pass catching tight end in the draft, and has the capability to contribute in the run game, though not too effectively.

    Dustin Keller (Jets) - Same as Davis just more extreme. Definitely not elite height, more of an H-Back, and will only be effective in certain schemes. Though he has the bulk he is pretty much a non-existent blocker.

    Martellus Bennett (Cowboys) - The wild-card of the TE class basically fell into a perfect situation in Big D. Bennett, the most physically gifted TE in 2008 basically has no ceiling and could rack up massive numbers in the already potent Cowboy O.

    Jermichael Finley (Packers) - For sake of time he is a poor man's Bennett. Not exactly the same skillset, but is a young athletic TE who given the right coaching and environment could be special. Really really should have stayed in school, but unfortunately he's a little too into making babies

    Others...

    Kellen Davis (Bears) - Needs to go grow up, but has all the tools
    Craig Stevens (Titans) - Probably will never factor too much into the passing game, but is the best blocking TE in the class and will likely have a long, successful career
    Martin Rucker (Browns) - Productive college career but might not have what it takes to be a #1 in the NFL
    Brad Cottam (Chiefs) - massive receiving and blocking threat who I think, along with Dorsey, Albert and Flowers will help to make the 2008 Chiefs draft one of the best of all time

    As aforementioned, I may be the only one who gives a **** about TE's and this likely won't be too popular of a thread but would still like to hear some feedback
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  • #2
    Oh yeah, I choose Brad Cottam from the KC Chiefs, just to be different and I don't really think that anyone else in this class stands out. Although, Keller could become the next productive H-Back, a la Chris Cooley
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    • #3
      Cottam has the problem of Tony Gonzalez there, preventing him from being the #1 TE.

      I'm going to vote for John Carlson. Not that I think he'll be stellar, but the fact remains that he's the only one we know will be in a starting role, in a system that does make good use of the TE.
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      • #4
        I really like Martelius Bennett's long term potential, though I'd have to disagree with your statement about a perfect situation. Though he will fill in at Anthony Fasano's #2 spot, he may be nothing more than a red zone target in Dallas.

        Anyways, I love his height, blocking ability, and hands. He isn't your prototype TE, but he is very complete and I think if he is ever given a #1 TE spot, he'll be a perenial pro bowler.

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        • #5
          The player that best fits his offensive system is no doubt Jacob Tamme. He played a lot of slot at UK and is in the same role as Dallas Clark in Indy.
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          • #6
            Craig Stevens.

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            • #7
              yeah that's a good call about Tamme actually, especially with Peyton's ability to find touches for everyone.

              Regarding Bennett's perfect situation, I meant that it's a perfect situation given that Bennett is still raw and the Cowboys options in the passing game will give him time to grow and he will benefit from learning from Witten as well as the rest of the veterans on that offense.
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              I may be a woman beater, but I ain't no pussy eater.

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              • #8
                Fred Davis.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by the shock doctor View Post
                  yeah that's a good call about Tamme actually, especially with Peyton's ability to find touches for everyone.

                  Regarding Bennett's perfect situation, I meant that it's a perfect situation given that Bennett is still raw and the Cowboys options in the passing game will give him time to grow and he will benefit from learning from Witten as well as the rest of the veterans on that offense.
                  That's true but as long as Witten is there he won't be able to fufil his potential but I can see why you think that. I agree about his rawness. He'll need a year or two in the weight room.

                  A lot of homer picks on here. Matt with Tamme and Redskins picture with Fred Davis.

                  Tamme is in a perfect situation for his talents.

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                  • #10
                    I like Craig Stevens. I saw him at Cal, and he can catch OK.

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                    • #11
                      I'm not sure if Tamme is going to put up the best numbers, even though he's with the Colts. Utecht only got 341 yards this season, and that's even considering that they were running with like, half their receiving corps for some games.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Blazedestin View Post
                        I'm not sure if Tamme is going to put up the best numbers, even though he's with the Colts. Utecht only got 341 yards this season, and that's even considering that they were running with like, half their receiving corps for some games.
                        Well I'm not talking next season (which the answer would be Carlson imo) I'm talking over a career.

                        Tamme's speed and hands will become a huge favorite of Peyton Manning's. The offense designed will mask his great inability to block.

                        I think many people will be surprised at how good his hands are in the NFL. Best hands in the DRaft. That's not me being a homer, that's me watching all the TEs last season.
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                        • #13
                          Oh. Yeah. I'll give you that.

                          I felt that he was talking about who would make the biggest splash in their rookie campaign, and I agree with Carlson.

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                          • #14
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                            • #15
                              It depends on how you classify a successful TE. While some TE's might rack up some amazing fantasy stats, they are going to be crap for blocking which pretty much means they aren't playing as real TE's.

                              That said, I think John Carlson is the best all-around TE in the draft. He's not a glorified WR that's going to stun anyone with his receiving stats, but he's going to be a reliable guy in every aspect of the position.

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