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  • Matt McGuire's 2009 NFL Mock Draft (2 Rounds) - Updated 5/29

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2009matt.php

    Matt really hates Terrence Wheatley
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    FS/SS irks me. lol If you are going to put that, why not just S?

    And yes, I hate the Pats for passing up on McKelvin for Jerod Mayo.
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    • #3
      I was copy-pasting from my own thing. My bad. I removed it.
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      • #4
        And by the way guys, I updated it to Walter's order so you can compare the two. That's the only reason I could find to update it, but also I would like the mocks to be more "uniform."

        Walter when are you coming out with your 7 round 2009 mock?
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        • #5
          Seahawks Round 2 pick has the same analysis as their round 1 pick.

          I don't see Michael Jones as a 2nd round pick, but we've already argued McGaha vs. Jones.

          I'm a bit surprised you don't have any QB going until #36, but I suppose you're basing it off of how the draft would fall out if we had it today.

          I'm concerned over Dace Richardson's injury. He's a fine prospect, but look at what injuries did to Eric Young and Kirk Barton.

          And with Perry... if we go by what "Lions look for", you'd have Heyward-Bey in that slot instead.
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          • #6
            You're probably right about Richardson, BUT I think he is highly talented and next season hasn't happened yet.

            He is healthy for all games and plays great and it coudl be a Dorsey like situation where the doubts are erased for the most part.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Blazedestin View Post
              Seahawks Round 2 pick has the same analysis as their round 1 pick.

              That was my bad. Fixed.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blazedestin View Post
                And with Perry... if we go by what "Lions look for", you'd have Heyward-Bey in that slot instead.

                This was a perfect opportunity for a Matt Millen joke.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
                  You're probably right about Richardson, BUT I think he is highly talented and next season hasn't happened yet.

                  He is healthy for all games and plays great and it coudl be a Dorsey like situation where the doubts are erased for the most part.
                  I don't see that happening. I'll admit my recollection could be incorrect, but Dorsey has never gone under the knife for football related injuries. We all know his childhood, but he simply played through pain in college. Dace Richardson needs surgery and we have no idea how he'll recover from it.

                  Additionally, I don't think Dace Richardson is to the OT position what Glenn Dorsey was to the DT position. We're talking about a guy who could be the best DT to come into the NFL in the last decade, if not longer. Richardson is a solid tackle, but there's other guys in the draft who are nearly as good, and better. Thus, teams are less likely to ignore the injury concerns on Richardson, because his talents aren't quite as eye-catching.
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                  • #10
                    I wasn't comparing their talent levels, just their situations.
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                    • #11
                      I know, but I think talent level has a lot to do with analyzing that situation.
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                      • #12
                        So you don't think Dace Richardson's talent wouldn't command a mid first round pick alone? He's a highly talented player. Maybe not Dorsey, but still highly talented.
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                        • #13
                          Hey Blaze why havent' you bitc.hed about Dace Richardson in my previous 2 mock updates?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
                            So you don't think Dace Richardson's talent wouldn't command a mid first round pick alone? He's a highly talented player. Maybe not Dorsey, but still highly talented.
                            Not really. I think he could theoretically sneak into the first round, but that's as high as he'll go.

                            Here's the thing. There's plenty of other tackles of comparable talent to Dace Richardson. Andre Smith, Ciron Black, Alex Boone, Eugene Monroe, Max Unger, Phil Loadholt all come to mind. That's six prospects that you could look at and say, "Hmm. These guys are about on Dace's level. But they don't have the injury history.". If I'm the GM and it's my turn on the clock, I'm going to take the less injured player. Richardson is a solid tackle, but there's alternatives for him.

                            Dorsey was heralded as a once-a-decade DT prospect. Sedrick Ellis was the closest alternative, and everyone agreed that in raw talent, Ellis couldn't beat Dorsey. Where do we go after there? Kentwan Balmer, who was a late first rounder? Pat Sims? Dre Moore? All decent players, but none were on Dorsey's level. Hell, Dorsey was supposed to be the #1 overall for what, 2/3rds of the season? 3/4ths?

                            Dace Richardson is a great player, don't get me wrong. But I don't think Richardson will ever establish himself as a far superior prospect to the other 1st-2nd round OT's. Dorsey was clearly superior to all his alternatives, MAYBE excepting Sedrick Ellis. I had Ellis going #3 to the Falcons until the LSU Pro Day, because of the injury concerns.
                            Last edited by Blazedestin; 05-29-2008, 03:18 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Matt McGuire View Post
                              Hey Blaze why havent' you bitc.hed about Dace Richardson in my previous 2 mock updates?
                              Wasn't paying attention? I thought this was your first two rounder. Am I mistaken?

                              *does quick search*

                              Huh. I was wrong. I just never noticed your second round the whole time. That explains why I didn't bring up the topic earlier.
                              Last edited by Blazedestin; 05-29-2008, 03:25 AM.
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