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  • McNulty
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    The Bills LB unit could be very good. Crowell is a stud, but Poz needs to come back from his injury and return to the level of play he showed before he went down. Mitchell is an immediate upgrade at Will, but he isn't much more than serviceable. The Jets having a good unit is also based on conjecture. In the middle Barton is aging but still solid, if not spectacular, and Harris is a future NFL star but on the outside spots the unit being considered a good one relies on Gholston reaching his potential, which is always a question mark when it comes to workout warrior types, and Calvin Pace becoming the pass rushing threat he has been touted as since coming into the league.

    I agree with you though, maybe I was hasty when I referred to the LB as an evil, but considering other divisions when it comes to choosing the top unit for a category you're usually spoiled for choice, but that definitely wasn't the case for the AFC East.

    It was funny though in most cases it comes down to choosing between the Pats' ancient vets or another team's young stars looking to meet their potential.

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  • giantsfanmike
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    Originally posted by the shock doctor View Post
    Quarterbacks: Patriots
    Running Backs: Patriots
    Recievers: Patriots
    Offensive Line: Patriots
    Defensive Line: Patriots
    Linebackers: Jets
    Secondary: Jets
    Special Teams: Jets
    Coaching: Patriots


    You know what, this division ****ing blows. When it came to LB's, Secondary and ST's it was a serious case of lesser of four evils. I know it sounds crazy to have the Pat's LB core as an "evil", but this unit is ancient and Mayo is a "good" linebacker prospect not the ****ing messiah. Everyone thinks that just because he's going to bellifag and the Pats that he should already be enshrined in the linebacker hall of fame. Should be noted that the Bills were a close second in a bunch of categories (I'm very high on Lynch when he isn't getting DWI's), and pretty much every category was virtually a tie between 2 or more teams.
    Lol, this division has very good linebackers. Buffalo have a great LB corpse, The Pats a good one, the Jets pretty good as well. The Dolphins' is average, but there are a lot worse in the league.

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  • mad36092
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    Patriots
    Quarterbacks: 5 Stars
    Runningbacks: 2.5 Stars
    Recievers: 4.5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 4 Stars
    Defensive Line: 3.5 Stars
    Linebackers: 2.5 Stars
    Secondary: 2 Stars
    Special Teams: 2.5 Stars
    Coaching: 4 Stars

    Jets
    Quarterbacks: 2 Stars
    Runningbacks: 1.5 Stars
    Receivers: 3 Stars
    Offensive Line: 4 Stars
    Defensive Line: 2.5 Stars
    Linebackers: 4 Stars
    Secondary: 2.5 Stars
    Special Teams: 3 Stars
    Coaching: 3 Stars

    Bills
    Quarterbacks: 2.5 Stars
    Runningbacks: 4 Stars
    Receivers: 3.5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 3.5 Stars
    Defensive Line: 3 Stars
    Linebackers: 2.5 Stars
    Secondary: 3.5 Stars
    Special Teams: 3 Stars
    Coaching: 3 Stars

    Dolphins
    Quarterbacks: 1 Star
    Runningbacks: 4 Stars
    Receivers: 0.5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 2.5 Stars
    Defensive Line: 2 Stars
    Linebackers: 1.5 Stars
    Secondary: 1 Stars
    Special Teams: 3 Stars
    Coaching: n/a

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  • McNulty
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    I'm not saying Faulk is gonna rack up big numbers. I'm just saying he's an X Factor type who brings another dimension to the Patriots, as well as experience and clutch play ability. Faulk's role on the team doesn't need a 4.4 40 time or the young, durable legs of a lead back. I mean, it's not like Belichick is known for getting the most out of veterans in the twilight of their careers or for scheming so acutely to a player's specific skillset that it minimizes his flaws or anything

    that being said, I already mentionedthat the Pats got the nod by a whisker. and pretty much the only reason why is because I go by the dictum that to be the king you must unseat the king. And for me Lynch and the Bills look set and ready to explode offensively and they're everybody's sexy pick (if the Bills can in fact be sexy) to have a big year on the offensive side of the ball, but they haven't done it yet. In this case the tie goes to the champ but I think/hope that Lynch will have a monster year
    Last edited by McNulty; 06-25-2008, 08:38 PM.

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  • Blazedestin
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    Faulk and Sammy Morris are both in their 30's. It's hard to imagine them being relevant much longer, and I have my doubts about them in 2008.

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  • McNulty
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    Nah, Faulk was the variable there. He's invaluable to the Patriots, and his receiving abilities bailed them out in crucial third downs in 2007 and in years prior.

    If we were going on starting backs alone and injuries weren't a concern it'd be..1) Lynch 2) Brown 3) Maroney 4) Jones

    that RB one was tough, because it's hard to distinguish the running backs from the running game and the Pats OL has so much to do with their success. maroney + average OL = mediocre

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  • PuppyPuncher
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    Mauroney over Lynch?

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  • McNulty
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    Quarterbacks: Patriots
    Running Backs: Patriots
    Recievers: Patriots
    Offensive Line: Patriots
    Defensive Line: Patriots
    Linebackers: Jets
    Secondary: Jets
    Special Teams: Jets
    Coaching: Patriots


    You know what, this division ****ing blows. When it came to LB's, Secondary and ST's it was a serious case of lesser of four evils. I know it sounds crazy to have the Pat's LB core as an "evil", but this unit is ancient and Mayo is a "good" linebacker prospect not the ****ing messiah. Everyone thinks that just because he's going to bellifag and the Pats that he should already be enshrined in the linebacker hall of fame. Should be noted that the Bills were a close second in a bunch of categories (I'm very high on Lynch when he isn't getting DWI's), and pretty much every category was virtually a tie between 2 or more teams.

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  • Vbsiena
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    Patriots
    Quarterbacks: 5 Stars
    Runningbacks: 2 Stars
    Recievers: 4.5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 3.5 Stars
    Defensive Line: 4 Stars
    Linebackers: 3 Stars
    Secondary: 3 Stars
    Special Teams: 2.5 Stars
    Coaching: 4.5 Stars (This one hurt to put)

    Jets

    Quarterbacks: 2.5 Stars
    Runningbacks: 3 Stars
    Receivers: 2.5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 3.5 Stars
    Defensive Line: 3 Stars
    Linebackers: 4 Stars
    Secondary: 3.5 Stars
    Special Teams: 3.5 Stars
    Coaching: 2.5 Stars

    Bills
    Quarterbacks: 3 Stars
    Runningbacks: 3.5 Stars
    Receivers: 3 Stars
    Offensive Line: 3.5 Stars
    Defensive Line: 3.5 Stars
    Linebackers: 3.5 Stars
    Secondary: 3 Stars
    Special Teams: 3 Stars
    Coaching: 3 Stars

    Dolphins
    Quarterbacks: 1.5 Star
    Runningbacks: 3 Stars
    Receivers: 2 Stars
    Offensive Line: 2.5 Stars
    Defensive Line: 2.5 Stars
    Linebackers: 2 Stars
    Secondary: 2 Stars
    Special Teams: 2 Stars
    Coaching: 2 Stars

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  • ZN0rseman
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    Patriots
    Quarterbacks: 5 Stars
    Runningbacks: 2 Stars
    Recievers: 5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 3 Stars
    Defensive Line: 3 Stars
    Linebackers: 3 Stars
    Secondary: 3 Stars
    Special Teams: 4 Stars
    Coaching: 3 Stars

    Jets
    Quarterbacks: 3 Stars
    Runningbacks: 2 Stars
    Receivers: 3 Stars
    Offensive Line: 2 Stars
    Defensive Line: 3 Stars
    Linebackers: 4 Stars
    Secondary: 3 Stars
    Special Teams: 3 Stars
    Coaching: 2 Stars

    Bills
    Quarterbacks: 3 Stars
    Runningbacks: 3 Stars
    Receivers: 3 Stars
    Offensive Line: 3 Stars
    Defensive Line: 3 Stars
    Linebackers: 4 Stars
    Secondary: 3 Stars
    Special Teams: 3 Stars
    Coaching: 3 Stars

    Dolphins
    Quarterbacks: 1 Star
    Runningbacks: 3 Stars
    Receivers: 2 Stars
    Offensive Line: 2 Stars
    Defensive Line: 3 Stars
    Linebackers: 3 Stars
    Secondary: 2 Stars
    Special Teams: 2 Stars
    Coaching: 2 Stars
    Last edited by ZN0rseman; 06-25-2008, 03:04 PM.

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  • Blazedestin
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    Pats:
    Quarterbacks: 5 Stars
    Runningbacks: 3 Stars
    Recievers: 4.5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 4 Stars
    Defensive Line: 4 Stars
    Linebackers: 3 Stars
    Secondary: 2 Stars
    Special Teams: 3 Stars
    Coaching: 4 Stars

    Jets:

    Quarterbacks: 1.5 Stars
    Runningbacks: 2.5 Stars
    Receivers: 2.5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 3 Stars
    Defensive Line: 3 Stars
    Linebackers: 3.5 Stars
    Secondary: 3.5 Stars
    Special Teams: 3.5 Stars
    Coaching: 3 Stars

    Bills:

    Quarterbacks: 3 Stars
    Runningbacks: 3 Stars
    Receivers: 3.5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 3.5 Stars
    Defensive Line: 2.5 Stars
    Linebackers: 4 Stars
    Secondary: 3.5 Stars
    Special Teams: 3 Stars
    Coaching: 3.5 Stars

    Dolphins:

    Quarterbacks: 1 Star
    Runningbacks: 3.5 Stars
    Receivers: 1.5 Stars
    Offensive Line: 2 Stars
    Defensive Line: 2 Stars
    Linebackers: 3 Stars
    Secondary: 1 Star
    Special Teams: 3 Stars
    Coaching: Unknown.

    Puppy, we all agree that Belichick/cheat is a total jackass and should be kicked in the testicles repeatedly, but he's still one of the most effective coaches in NFL history.

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  • PuppyPuncher
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    Using stars is for the elderly.

    Pats
    QB: 5 stars
    RB: 1/2 star
    WR: 5 stars
    OL: 3 1/2 stars
    DL: 5 stars
    LB: 3 stars
    DB: 2 stars
    Special Teams: 2 1/2
    Coaching: 1 star

    Jets

    QB: 2 stars
    RB: 3 1/2 stars
    WR: 3 1/2 stars
    OL: 4 1/2 stars
    DL: 2 stars
    LB: 3 1/2 stars
    DB: 4 stars
    Special Teams: 3 stars
    Coaching: 4 stars

    Bills
    QB: 3 stars
    RB: 4 stars
    WR: 3 stars
    OL: 4 stars
    DL: 3 4/5 stars
    LB: 3 stars
    DB: 3 stars
    Coaching: 5 stars
    Special Teams: 5 stars

    Dolphins
    QB: 1 1/2 stars
    RB: 4 1/2 stars
    WR: 2 stars
    OL: 2 1/2 stars
    DL: 3 stars
    LB: 3 stars
    DB: 1 1/2 stars
    Special Teams: 3 stars
    Coaching: Unapplicable

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  • Rate a division's teams in a Walter Football Style: AFC East edition

    Basically we'll do this in installments since if you done all 32 teams at once the page for this thread would extend quite far and become quite unreadable.

    Pats:

    Quarterbacks: *****
    Runningbacks: ***
    Recievers: ****
    Offensive Line: ****
    Defensive Line: ****
    Linebackers: ****
    Secondary: ***
    Special Teams: ***
    Coaching:*****

    Jets:

    Quarterbacks: **
    Runningbacks: **
    Receivers: **
    Offensive Line: ****
    Defensive Line: ***
    Linebackers: ****
    Secondary: ***
    Special Teams: ****
    Coaching: **

    Bills:

    Quarterbacks: **
    Runningbacks: ***
    Receivers: ***
    Offensive Line: ****
    Defensive Line: ***
    Linebackers: *****
    Secondary: ****
    Special Teams: ***
    Coaching: ****

    Dolphins:

    Quarterbacks: *
    Runningbacks: ***
    Receivers: **
    Offensive Line: ***
    Defensive Line: ***
    Linebackers: **
    Secondary: *
    Special Teams: **
    Coaching: **
    Last edited by giantsfanmike; 06-25-2008, 02:51 AM.
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