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  • Leo Fender
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    Originally posted by animal52 View Post
    Leo,
    Each team gets, I think, 3 full time outs and 3 20 second time outs per half...I may be wrong. It seems like so many b/c they always save them for the end for these types of situations. It is good as it makes games exciting in the end.

    In the Davidson case, They could have called a play using Curry as a decoy and had a better shot with someone else but did not. KS made the right call by triple teaming Curry. But calling the time out increases the drama but also shows what the coaches are thinking. Obviously, they didn't win the coaching battle so therefore they didn't win the game.
    Okay, thanks for making things clearer for me. I still think that in this case Davidson would have been better off not calling the time out. Because know they gave Kansas a chance to set up their defense properly.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Casual fans dont' care about the regular season, siena? The regular season is so popular in college football I have to respectfully disagree.

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  • animal52
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    Originally posted by Leo Fender View Post
    I watched the end of the Davidson - Kansas game last night and I have a question. I really don't follow the game of basketball so much so I may be wrong here but anyway:

    Firstly: Why do they each time have 3 gazillion time outs? Do they really need all of them?

    Secondly: Why did Davidson call a time out with 16.8 seconds left? Shouldn't they know what to do at that point? Don't they practice at play or combinations good to use with 10 seconds left and trailing by two? The only thing that time out did was that it allowed Kansas to, without any rush, put a proverbial double team on Curry. And when Curry handed the ball off, shouldn't he have tried to reach the guy who had eleven points and three three-pointers in the second half and obviously was on a streak?

    Just wondering...
    Leo,
    Each team gets, I think, 3 full time outs and 3 20 second time outs per half...I may be wrong. It seems like so many b/c they always save them for the end for these types of situations. It is good as it makes games exciting in the end.

    In the Davidson case, They could have called a play using Curry as a decoy and had a better shot with someone else but did not. KS made the right call by triple teaming Curry. But calling the time out increases the drama but also shows what the coaches are thinking. Obviously, they didn't win the coaching battle so therefore they didn't win the game.

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  • Vbsiena
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    /rant

    Matt I'm convinced you're a football purist. You just want to skip the BS of the tournament games and want the best of the best to play to determine the national championship. Nothing wrong with that from a purist point of view. The problem lies with the people who are not purists in NCAAF or NCAAB like myself and many many others.

    I going to speak for myself and probably many others in saying the regular seasons in those sports are only so interesting. Unless you are a hardcore fan those games can be kinda boring. But when its playoff time aka tournament time then the casual fan like myself gets interested. (On a sidenote I'm trying to get into college football, I really am, but inferior talent to the pros excluding the pro prospects is boring for me to watch)

    For NCAAB, Brackets can be made and we can all pretend like we know what we are talking about even though we only watched a few games during the year. Then a 65 team tournament is an easier thing to hype up for ESPN and CBS, etc because it hits on more fans from different regions in the USA. Because they lead us to think that every team has a chance to be National Champion, which is true just not likely. Thus, generating more interest, more excitement, more ratings.

    Yes when its all said and done the best teams almost always gets through the field and wins. It just takes longer than say a BCS. Where I suppose the regular season matters more than the NCAAB season, but like I said earlier, casual fans don't really care about the regular season. It's kinda like an orange. You wanna peel apart the outside layers to get to the juicy inside. Since the juicy inside is the best part you hope its big and you can maximize the awesomeness of it. Well the juicy inside is the tournament to determine a national champion and the BCS Bowl Championship. Where we have many 1 game elimination games to determine the National Champion or just 1 game to determine the champion. Which one sounds juicier?

    /endrant

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  • bulldog0123
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    i made an NCAAF bracket and sent it to walters email...i wasnt sure how to post it on the site. it has 16 teams...at least one team from each conference....conference teams are ranked first and the 4 extra teams are ranked last

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  • Leo Fender
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    I watched the end of the Davidson - Kansas game last night and I have a question. I really don't follow the game of basketball so much so I may be wrong here but anyway:

    Firstly: Why do they each time have 3 gazillion time outs? Do they really need all of them?

    Secondly: Why did Davidson call a time out with 16.8 seconds left? Shouldn't they know what to do at that point? Don't they practice at play or combinations good to use with 10 seconds left and trailing by two? The only thing that time out did was that it allowed Kansas to, without any rush, put a proverbial double team on Curry. And when Curry handed the ball off, shouldn't he have tried to reach the guy who had eleven points and three three-pointers in the second half and obviously was on a streak?

    Just wondering...

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  • Matt McGuire
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    Originally posted by Walter View Post
    And btw, this is almost 2 mid-majors in the Final Four in the past 3 years. Mid-majors are getting really close because these other teams are so young.
    Final 4 and Championship are 2 different things. I've mentioned this time and time again: the goal of a tournament is to find the WINNER not the Final 4/8/16/etc.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    I thought Purdue had the talent or I wouldn't have picked them...I've been really impressed by them this year and I thougth they had more talent honestly than teams like Georgetown and Tennessee call me crazy.

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  • Walter
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    And btw, this is almost 2 mid-majors in the Final Four in the past 3 years. Mid-majors are getting really close because these other teams are so young.

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  • Walter
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    We got off-topic because you brought up something that didn't have to do with anything. Purdue in NCAABB doesn't have the talent either so why did you pick them?

    Davidson was 2 points shy of knocking off a team that people have winning the whole thing. They beat the best team in the Big East. They beat the best team in the Big Ten. If that shot from Richards goes in, they're playing UNC... and UNC is going to be like -3 or -4 over Kansas, so it's not like they're invincible. They lost to Maryland at home for crying out loud.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    I'm sorry if I go out on a limb and I have a rule that I don't pick more than 2 #1 seeds in the Final four because I don't like going all faves because that is too easy to predict...it is like picking favorites in every game I just don't like it.

    But hey yeah I picked Purdue because I liked their three point shooting and scrappy defense...they were my sleeper I picked a sleeper sue me.

    I mean when you make a 5 unit pick you are calling it a lock and I wouldn't have bet 5 units that Purdue was going to be in teh final 4.

    We are getting off topic here ... if you think it is so likely that these mid majors can win the dance (WIN IT NOT ADVANCE FAR) then how come it has never happened before?

    I'll tell you why:

    1. They don't have the talent
    2. They don't have the talent
    3. They don't have the talent
    4. They don't have the talent.
    ......
    .......
    .........


    Now I'm not saying thye don't have the talent to not make the final 4 or win a BCS game like Boise State, but winning a championship is something entirely different...it is a huge step and if you think that a mid major can do it then you simply have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

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  • Walter
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    I'll call my 5-unit Ohio State pick and raise your "Purdue in the Final Four prediction"

    And yes, if being stubborn makes me a proponent of the American capitalist system and an enemy of the Communist party, then yes, call me "stubborn" all day.

    A stubborn man will never admit that he's either wrong or stubborn.

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  • Matt McGuire
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    I think you are being stubborn because you think a school with marginal talent has the chance to WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP ... AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE TALENT TO DO IT.

    I mean walter yeah I would agree with you if any team won a Championship but it hasn't happened and it never will.

    Hey what about your 5 unit Ohio State pick again? You know so much about Championships you put 5 units ona team that got ****ing smacked by the SEC - AGAIN.

    If Walter was the NCAA commish we would have a 1284 team tournaments and involve even a few JV High school teams just to make sure we would have a champion. Because everyone deserves a chance we need to give everyone a chance hey this is america lol what a great argument.

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  • Walter
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    Bowl Communism Series - I like the ring to that

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  • Walter
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    LOL dude calm down, I just said Boise State deserves a chance if they're 12-0. Telling them they don't have a chance is bull****.

    Bottom line: It's eerily communistic.

    "Hey guys, you can try your hardest. You can go undefeated. Even if you're 12-0, you will not have a chance to win the championship."

    In America, everyone has a chance. If you work hard and put in your hours, you can live in wealth. In Communist China, N. Korea and the old USSR, you could work 100 hours a week and still live in ****.

    The NCAA is telling these poor kids from Boise St. no matter how hard they work, they won't be given an opportunity. That's complete horse ****, Matt, and you know it. You're just being stubborn.

    Or at least I hope you know it - hope you're not a communist or anything lol

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